All Aboard to Restore Locomotive 1504
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/History/Locomotive-1504/i-vv4Dd3S/1/O/DSCF0189.jpg)
Metro Jacksonville's Kara Holmes investigates the history of a derelict locomotive hidden behind the Prime Osborn Center.
Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2014-feb-all-aboard-to-restore-locomotive-1504
The article contradicts itsself. It says on page 2 it was displayed outside of the Atlantic Coast Building (CSX) for 30 years then was moved in 1986 to the current location at Prime Osborne. Then it says it was displayed outside of Prime Osborne for 50 years. So it is either the year 2036 or it meant to say it has been displayed outside for 58 years. Either way it needs some work.
The restoration work on this has been discussed before.
It's a beautiful, old, wounded soldier. My heart goes out for it. Didn't know it was in such bad shape.
I agree that Jacksonville hides many of its historic treasures, and that is a shame. Jacksonville has a good story to tell. It would be great if this engine could be put back in service as an excursion train to St Augustine and/or Fernandina Beach.
QuoteThe restoration work on this has been discussed before.
Its an old tired "trick" to re-circulate old content for the benefit of new members. I am sure this is not the last "new/old" article to be pulled out of the archives. Agreed, this was mentioned with more vigor in a previous thread.
It's funny how some of you guys think we're so Dr. Evil-ish. The story was recently written by one of our intern writers. If any of you want to submit your own editorials for public consumption, I'd be more than happy to upload it when you're ready! The more content, the merrier, IMHO.
As a new reader let me say thank you for posting article like this. I have lived in Jax for 11 years and am just now discovering all of the urban treasures that exist here.
I had never seen the article, and thought it was interesting. I have only been a member of MJ for less than a year. You guys do good work, much thanks!
I don't believe we ever wrote an article. I think the discussion took place in the forum a few years back.
Quote from: IrvAdams on February 11, 2014, 12:37:50 PM
I had never seen the article, and thought it was interesting. I have only been a member of MJ for less than a year. You guys do good work, much thanks!
There are many good articles that newer people have not seen... I enjoy the recycled and updated stories and articles. keep em coming! 8)
Quote from: stephendare on February 11, 2014, 09:49:03 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on February 11, 2014, 09:36:43 AM
QuoteThe restoration work on this has been discussed before.
Its an old tired "trick" to re-circulate old content for the benefit of new members. I am sure this is not the last "new/old" article to be pulled out of the archives. Agreed, this was mentioned with more vigor in a previous thread.
really? or is it about being a triple AAA battery powered jerk? ;)
This article is an update on the status of the locomotive, and was put together by one of the interns (---this is her debut article in fact, ) but hey mtrain, why not be a dismissive oaf about it anyways?
If you actually look through the article you will see that she took care to document the advancement of the weathering and damage that has progressed along the train. So Kara thanks for the great article and thanks for taking to time to do the documentation on the state of the locomotive.!
One of the things that I think people lose sight of is that there are always new readers and a new generation of activists and people curious about the history of their city. They havent already read a four year old article because they have never heard of it and wouldnt know to run a search for something that they havent a clue exists yet.
So seriously, when I have to weigh in on other people acting like know it alls, you know it has to be out of bounds.
Although obviously, thank you for being such an otherwise great part of the website and having familiarity with the back story of one of the local landmarks. :)
WOW! It was like someone just hopped the fence of Robin Master's estate. "Zeus, Apollo, ATTACK!"
Tell me more about this Tuesday night pizza thing...
An article was written in Oct 2008 about ACL 1504 but was kept up to date with comments so that's what Mtrain is probably referring to.
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2008-oct-atlantic-coast-line-1504
Quote from: stephendare on February 11, 2014, 12:49:11 PM
Naked photos of Justin Beiber would probably generate them more easily. ;)
I think you might be correct only if vomit on keyboards counts as a page view.
Otherwise, keep up the good work. I for one enjoy most of your articles.
I understand both sides. Sometimes old articles are bumped (last or second to last post requoted) with no new addition or visible reason. Then I click on it and it is nothing new. Other times, as in this case, something is added onto, and the same debate that took place weeks/months/years ago happens all over again. And those can be frustrating to older readers.
But I think the people that run this site (the only ones I know are Lakelander and Stephendare, apologies to any others) doing a great job and content like this you cannot find anywhere else. Not even trendy, liberal, edgy New York City!
Thank you, JayBird. We really appreciate that.
Lets stay on topic. The alternative is to have no content. I don't think we want that to happen. It takes a great deal of time and effort to keep new content coming on a daily basis. If you want something for comparison, look at urbantallahasssee.com. I am sure there are others that also only have a few articles, per month.
Is the restoration plan cosmetic, or plans to get it fully functional with the boiler repaired and certified? is it going to be moved, or done in place? Sounds like a big challenge, but important. It never should have been left to rot, but this unfortunately has happened to many engines on display.
Every year the news media does stories about huricane prepardness. Every time there is a ice storm the media does a story about "black ice". They don't do that cause everybody forgets. They do it cause there are new, young and forgetfull people that are hearing the same old thing for the first time.
My comment about the engine being talked about before is so someone more interested than I can research it and find the discussion.
The boiler could have been saved if a simple 5 gallon bucket was put over the stack..or at least some lead flashing and caulk..
The fence said No Trespassing...
QuoteThe boiler could have been saved if a simple 5 gallon bucket was put over the stack..or at least some lead flashing and caulk.
Hey Fletch, you forgot the ball bearings, and what about the duct tape?
Any progress on this?
Great read. I hope the 1504 Restoration comes to pass.