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Title: Whisky River closes
Post by: pierre on January 17, 2014, 02:30:01 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Whisky-River-closes-abruptly/MPYCjc1beUWbc5GeuQ9ndQ.cspx

QuoteJACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- WOKV has learned Whisky River in Jacksonville is closed.

The restaurant and club located in the Markets at the St. Johns Town Center was empty when we checked out the location today after they were supposed to be open. One employee trying to enter the building told us she wasn't informed the restaurant would be closed. Several customers also tried to get in, but could not.
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: I-10east on January 17, 2014, 06:58:30 PM
Too bad. For me the food was okay, nothing to go crazy over. Hopefully another restaurant take it's place not too long from now. 
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: thelakelander on January 17, 2014, 07:14:24 PM
Hmm, I never stepped foot in the place. Did I miss anything?
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: Tacachale on January 17, 2014, 07:24:46 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on January 17, 2014, 07:14:24 PM
Hmm, I never stepped foot in the place. Did I miss anything?

Let's put it this way: Nope .
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: I-10east on January 17, 2014, 07:30:57 PM
^^^I tend to agree. I just got some typical bar food (like wings and fries) to go. The racecar & country themed ambiance of WR seemed pretty cool, but the food was 'eh'.
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: L.P. Hovercraft on January 17, 2014, 07:35:58 PM
Damn, where's the Public Defender's office gonna go for new steno pool hires now? 
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: FSBA on January 17, 2014, 08:07:51 PM
Time to just declare the Town Center as Regency 2.0
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: I-10east on January 17, 2014, 08:10:06 PM
^^^I know that you probably hate the suburban SJTC and all, but that's an overreaction.
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: FSBA on January 17, 2014, 08:59:19 PM
Quote from: I-10east on January 17, 2014, 08:10:06 PM
^^^I know that you probably hate the suburban SJTC and all, but that's an overreaction.

Times like this makes me wish MJ had some kind of sarcasm font
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on January 17, 2014, 09:00:38 PM
^^^ It still wouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: I-10east on January 17, 2014, 09:27:23 PM
Quote from: FSBA on January 17, 2014, 08:59:19 PM
Times like this makes me wish MJ had some kind of sarcasm font

So just spout off any mindless negative drivel; That equals to very funny 'sarcasm'. Okay, I'll be wary next time...
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: I-10east on January 17, 2014, 10:12:55 PM
According to actionnews, WR closed because a deal couldn't be reached when the lease ran out. Suite's (owned by the same company as WR) lease is up in two years, and it could face a future closure also.
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: JayBird on January 17, 2014, 10:46:27 PM
Shocked and disappointed. I loved Whisky River. Obviously it was sudden as they were just taking Super Bowl reservations last week. Always a shame to see a place close down, and it usually had good crowds for football and theme nights. Thankfully Suite is still around, that's the closest thing Jax has to the nightclub scene offered in MIA and NYC
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: ProjectMaximus on January 18, 2014, 02:42:50 AM
Yeah this was a shock when I heard this afternoon, and I attended an event there just last night!

To be totally honest, I never really liked the place. But I interacted quite a bit with the staff for various reasons and always felt they were really nice and accommodating people. I feel bad that none of them received any notice or warning.
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: mtraininjax on January 21, 2014, 04:23:45 PM
As a Public Service announcement for the young ladies who lost their jobs at WR, Hooters and The Gold Club are offering employment.
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: For_F-L-O-R-I-D-A on January 21, 2014, 05:02:42 PM
Quote from: JayBird on January 17, 2014, 10:46:27 PM
Shocked and disappointed. I loved Whisky River. Obviously it was sudden as they were just taking Super Bowl reservations last week. Always a shame to see a place close down, and it usually had good crowds for football and theme nights. Thankfully Suite is still around, that's the closest thing Jax has to the nightclub scene offered in MIA and NYC

Chalk up the end of a night scene in Southside if WR and Suite go under. The Beaches and Riverside are the gold standard for going out in Jax which is why most young people are seeking living arrangements in both locales. Maybe Riverside and downtown can capitalize on this to make the core more desirable?
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: coredumped on January 21, 2014, 05:07:15 PM
Quote from: For_F-L-O-R-I-D-A on January 21, 2014, 05:02:42 PM
Chalk up the end of a night scene in Southside if WR and Suite go under. The Beaches and Riverside are the gold standard for going out in Jax which is why most young people are seeking living arrangements in both locales. Maybe Riverside and downtown can capitalize on this to make the core more desirable?

The beaches? Don't they shut down at like 1am now??? And don't even mention the cops...

I agree though, Southside doesn't have a great nightlife, unless you want to count chilis  :o

I'd say downtown and riverside more than the beaches and riverside are the gold standard, IMO.
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: icarus on January 21, 2014, 05:15:48 PM
Honestly, Whiskey River seemed to attract a bad element .. crowds, frequent fights, etc.  I truly wonder if forcing WR out wasn't a prudent move from a landlord/developer viewpoint as they try to bring in more fine dining, i.e. Seasons 52 and Moxie.

Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: mtraininjax on January 22, 2014, 10:12:05 AM
QuoteMaybe Riverside and downtown can capitalize on this to make the core more desirable?

220 Riverside is trying to catch this wave of interest. Hopefully more infill continues in the area to where it can become a model for other areas of town. Communities shall thrive again!
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: billy on January 22, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
Viable alternate? Wild Bill's Saloon on Tallyrand!
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: Overstreet on January 22, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
Why is it that restaurants often close  with no notice?
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: TheCat on January 22, 2014, 02:04:54 PM
This is from facebook:

(http://i.imgur.com/OijwcWR.png)
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: blizz01 on February 07, 2014, 02:37:20 PM
A little more light:

QuoteLawsuit: Whisky River evicted

QuoteBy Mark Basch, Contributing Writer

The Whisky River restaurant at The Markets of Town Center, which closed abruptly last month, was shut down because the operators had not paid the rent for six months and were evicted, according to a lawsuit filed in Duval County Circuit Court.Representatives of the owners issued statements to several local news outlets last month saying they had decided to close the restaurant.
However, according to an amended version of the original complaint, the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office "executed a Writ of Possession removing Tenant from, and delivering to Landlord, possession of the premises" on Jan. 17.
The landlord is Hines Global REIT Inc., a Houston-based real estate investment firm. Hines acquired The Markets of Town Center, the shopping area adjacent to the St. Johns Town Center, from Pinehill Markets Operating LLC in July 2013.
According to the lawsuit which was originally filed by Hines in December, the operators of Whisky River never made any of their required monthly rental payments after Hines took over the property. The restaurant owed a total of $226,312 in rent as of January.
Duval County Circuit Judge Lawrence Haddock entered a judgment Jan. 3 in favor of Hines, giving it possession of the premises because the restaurant owners were in default.
Hines' amended complaint against the Whisky River owners said the landlord has been taking care of the premises since taking possession Jan. 17 and "has made and continues to make a good faith effort to re-let the premises on Tenant's behalf in order to mitigate damages accruing to Landlord under the lease."
Whisky River opened in 2010 to great fanfare, in part because of its association with NASCAR driver Dale Earnhardt Jr., who has often been described as the owner or majority owner of Whisky River.
Earnhardt is not mentioned in the lawsuit filed by Hines. The lawsuit lists SJTC III LLC as the tenant holding the lease on the restaurant and Hammer Flo LLC as subtenant.
Florida corporate records show that SJTC and Hammer Flo both have the same address in Plantation under a registered owner called CT Corp. A representative of CT at the office in Plantation said the company just handles registration for corporations and is not otherwise affiliated with the businesses.
Whisky River still has a restaurant in operation in Charlotte, N.C. The website for the Charlotte restaurant has an email address for a corporate office, but there was no response to an email sent to that office Thursday.
Telephone calls to Bar Management Group, a Charlotte company listed in some news reports as the operator of Whisky River, were not answered Thursday.
Court records show no responses made by Whisky River's owners to the lawsuit filed by Hines.

mbasch@baileypub.com

(904) 356-2466

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=542193
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: spuwho on February 07, 2014, 08:26:35 PM
Talking about walking away. This bar was so layered in LLC's and contract management they probably think they can just dump it.

Bar Management LLC ran the bar/food operations (who got locked out)
SJTC III LLC was the property rental vehicle (who didn't pay the rent)
Hammer Flo LLC was the franchise management entity (who isn't returning the calls)
Hammerhead LLC provided the dough to Hammer Flo LLC (oh yeah, you can find the owner in Daytona in a few weeks, maybe he will get served!)

Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: copperfiend on February 08, 2014, 12:25:53 AM
Club Paris 2.0?
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: southsider1015 on March 05, 2014, 07:18:37 AM
Quote from: spuwho on February 07, 2014, 08:26:35 PM
Talking about walking away. This bar was so layered in LLC's and contract management they probably think they can just dump it.

Bar Management LLC ran the bar/food operations (who got locked out)
SJTC III LLC was the property rental vehicle (who didn't pay the rent)
Hammer Flo LLC was the franchise management entity (who isn't returning the calls)
Hammerhead LLC provided the dough to Hammer Flo LLC (oh yeah, you can find the owner in Daytona in a few weeks, maybe he will get served!)

Didn't DJ win the 500?  Whoops?
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: blizz01 on May 30, 2014, 03:34:47 PM
Looks like the space is to become Cooper's Hawk

QuoteEarlier this year, right around the time that Whisky River closed abruptly, Dee casually asked his broker if he knew of any availabilities in the area. The broker — Marc Offit, CEO of Sierra U.S. Realty in Chicago — had represented REI in its lease in the Markets.

"He leaned back and reached out on his desk and pulled out the site plan [for the Whiskey River site]" said Dee, "and said, 'This is available right now. Do you want it?'"

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/blog/morning-edition/2014/05/exclusive-behind-the-scenes-of-the-coopers-hawk.html

https://coopershawkwinery.com/
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: Doctor_K on May 30, 2014, 04:48:33 PM
Cooper's Hawk will bring an alternative to Ovinte, which is right across the street.

That could go either way, admittedly.
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: tufsu1 on May 30, 2014, 07:48:17 PM
We have a Coopers Hawk across the parking lot from our office in Tampa.  I am not impressed.
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: spuwho on May 30, 2014, 07:56:55 PM
Quote from: blizz01 on May 30, 2014, 03:34:47 PM
Looks like the space is to become Cooper's Hawk

QuoteEarlier this year, right around the time that Whisky River closed abruptly, Dee casually asked his broker if he knew of any availabilities in the area. The broker — Marc Offit, CEO of Sierra U.S. Realty in Chicago — had represented REI in its lease in the Markets.

"He leaned back and reached out on his desk and pulled out the site plan [for the Whiskey River site]" said Dee, "and said, 'This is available right now. Do you want it?'"

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/blog/morning-edition/2014/05/exclusive-behind-the-scenes-of-the-coopers-hawk.html

https://coopershawkwinery.com/

Simms,

Take a look at that story about how they closed the deal so fast and let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: spuwho on May 30, 2014, 08:03:14 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on May 30, 2014, 07:48:17 PM
We have a Coopers Hawk across the parking lot from our office in Tampa.  I am not impressed.

I am beginning to worry about market saturation now. How many "upscale" places do they think they can cram into that area? The over $20 per entree market is filling up fast.

Yeah, everyone is doing above average sales per sq ft., but that won't last if everyone keeps crowding in and saturating. Someone is going to lose.
Title: Re: Whisky River closes
Post by: IrvAdams on May 30, 2014, 08:37:37 PM
^SJTC is a shopping Disney World. It just keeps on rockin'. Looking at it now, I wish that central area with the small grassy park and the bridge was much larger. Could be a great presentation and entertainment area.