From UPI:
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/12/27/Census-Bureau-expects-Florida-to-surpass-New-York-in-population/UPI-25211388150884/ (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/12/27/Census-Bureau-expects-Florida-to-surpass-New-York-in-population/UPI-25211388150884/)
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NEW YORK, Dec. 27 (UPI) -- The U.S. Census Bureau said Florida is likely to surpass New York in population in 2014, if it hasn't already.
Demographers expect Florida to replace New York as the third most populous state, separated by as little as a few thousand people.
The Census Bureau is expected to release its population estimates Monday, the New York Times reported Friday. California and Texas are expected to hold firm as the No. 1 and No. 2 most populous states, respectively.
The census figures indicate foreign-born migrants are moving to warm-weather states, like California, Texas and Florida, and New York is losing roughly 50,000 people each year to Florida, most of them retirees.
"It's going to happen," said Andrew A. Beveridge, a professor of sociology at Queens College. "And if Florida accidentally grew faster and New York slowed down, it could have happened already."
Despite moving into fourth place, New York is not losing population. The state is growing about 1 percent annually in recent years, the Times said. Florida, though, is growing at a rate of about 2.7 percent annually.
The last census estimate in July 2012 indicated New York had a population of 19.6 million and Florida had 19.3 million.
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I have read elsewhere that this could significantly boost the federal money allocated to Florida going forward.
Great! More FREE money from DC.
we'll have to wait until at least next year. Census figures show NY still has about 100,000 more people than FL
Quote from: tufsu1 on December 30, 2013, 03:52:45 PM
we'll have to wait until at least next year. Census figures show NY still has about 100,000 more people than FL
Why wait?
Recall Jacksonville's "Millionth Mania"?
Downtown fireworks,COJ Special Events Office, Barnett Bank. In fact "Jacksonville",Duval county was quite a bit short of the magical million person mark.Only by including the population of surrounding counties could "Jacksonville Millionth Mania" be mustered.
"Jacksonville Millionth Mania" (and this writer) is specifically noted in Carl Hiaasen's book "Kick Ass" hard copy edition.
Which got me to thinking......a good chunk of Millionth Mania territory is often referred to as "Southern Georgia".
Certainly by including a wee bit of Georgia,along with some crafty promo and diversionary Events,Florida could claim certain benchmark sooner than later.
With tongue in Census- (?)
Happy Populous New Year
Well seriously, the Jax metro area did exceed the 1 million mark about 20 years ago...and no, that doesn't include any counties in GA.
Quote from: Know Growth on December 30, 2013, 04:53:33 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on December 30, 2013, 03:52:45 PM
we'll have to wait until at least next year. Census figures show NY still has about 100,000 more people than FL
Why wait?
Recall Jacksonville's "Millionth Mania"?
Downtown fireworks,COJ Special Events Office, Barnett Bank. In fact "Jacksonville",Duval county was quite a bit short of the magical million person mark.Only by including the population of surrounding counties could "Jacksonville Millionth Mania" be mustered.
"Jacksonville Millionth Mania" (and this writer) is specifically noted in Carl Hiaasen's book "Kick Ass" hard copy edition.
Which got me to thinking......a good chunk of Millionth Mania territory is often referred to as "Southern Georgia".
Certainly by including a wee bit of Georgia,along with some crafty promo and diversionary Events,Florida could claim certain benchmark sooner than later.
With tongue in Census- (?)
Happy Populous New Year
Wow. You start drinking for New Years Eve already? I guess perhaps that made sense to some. Perhaps.
Florida has surpassed New York to become the 3rd most populous state.
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2014/12/23/florida-surpasses-new-york-as-3rd-most-populated.html
New York State Wild and Natural Lands,small town advocates,users and enjoyers are celebrating.After all,following in long history.
Thankfully for Florida,Amendment 1 initiative re-energizing State Conservation Lands purchase,management was voted in recently.
Some New Yorkers huddled around Deer camps and elsewhere breathing collective sigh of relief. Yea- go ahead,move out of NY!
But of course, the driver behind the Florida numbers is not primarily driven by New Yorkers fleeing evil place. (Like I did,from North Miami Fla....but such demographic shift receives little note....)
When my father was born, in Florida there were less than 800,000 people in the state. When I ... less than 2,000,000. Now the state is approaching 20,000,000.
When a kid in the forties and fifties, us boys would roam the woods and swamps all around the county ... into other counties. Have you ever walked or run the park or forest trails, and observed the polished rock and soil, made so by the shear volume of humans trampling through? The act of stepping into or through reasonably virgin woods or forests is a pleasure seldom felt by humans today, such has been the rate at which the increasing numbers of humans have spread.
To wish to be big, or to have high numbers in anything is usually good. However, if I had my wish, I would wish Florida could be small again in population. To be so, would mean that the animals and the forests, being natural and therefore good, would have the greater, and more beneficial impact upon the land. If the state were favored with a lesser population, the troublesome human, with the associated negatives, would be less able to apply these negatives.
To be the biggest ... to be "third" in a run of 50 of anything, is to be sought, as it indicates a certain level of accomplishment. But, regarding the population of Florida, I would rather be 30th again, or 40th, or even 50th, as to be so would relieve the state of the excessive presence of those destructive creatures called humans, and return to Florida, the natural world she's enjoyed for many thousands of years.
Insomnia.
The idea of a reversal of population in Florida to levels approximating that of many decades ago reminds me of the proposal jokingly made a few years ago to return to Europe all peoples other than those descended from the native Americans. The idea was to recognize, finally ... after three centuries or so, the cruelties, deceptions, and thefts perpetrated by the Europeans as they, by any and all means possible, dispossessed the natives of their culture, their lives, and the lands they had occupied, balanced in a state of nature, for tens of thousands of years.
The exodus would affect all of the Americas, although a greater percentage of the Latin southerners would remain, as more would be considered indigenous. The agenda would be to determine what percentage of "being native" would allow one to stay in the Americas.
Where would the returnees go? Most European countries would surely welcome back the descendants of the immigrates who fled centuries ago. The African Americans could become African Africans again. Russia, being drained of people over recent decades, might be the most popular destination for those returning, although Russia is less European as one travels east.
If this exodus takes place, then the natives remaining must determine the degree to which they would wish their land to return to the conditions of long ago. What of the highways and cities? To what degree would the "new" natives encourage the process by physically destroying infrastructures.
Would the natives wish for the Buffalo and the wolf, and all the fowl and other animals, to return to the numbers of long ago? Once the Europeans returned the stolen lands, how long would it take for the native population to return to the ten to twenty million estimated to be the count prior to the barbaric annihilation?
If there is an effort to gather and organize according to the tribes of long ago, to what degree would the natives wish to discard the English language -- especially given that the native words would perhaps be best suited to engaging nature.
To encourage environmental healing, would the natives rid themselves of auto technology ... returning to the horse? Or would they discard the "imported" horse, and return to the foot trail and canoe? Destroying the huge concrete and steel dams would be a huge task for the natives.
Would they wish to return to smoke signals, thereby limiting their dependence on European technologies? And I suspect, surely, that the new natives would discard the absurdities and ambiguities of the nonsensical Christian religion ... with the likes of Charlatans such as the Joel O'steens and Pat Robertsons ... and return to the more rational and beneficial natural spirit worlds which, if one engages objective contemplation, would allow the opinion that the old ways of nature tends better to the needs of man ... and the environment.
Ultimately the remaining natives would have the option to return to the state of society as it existed prior to the arrival of the Europeans. And if they were patient, after perhaps two hundred years of infrastructure decay, the landscape would begin to approximate the natural state as it existed prior to the fifteenth century.
In a state of nature as enjoyed by the Pre-Columbian natives; even though disease and conflict existed ... all that was needed, is what they had. The natives, the animals, and the earth, lived in a balanced state of nature ... in a sort of Eden. The European, obsessed with riches and materialism ... armed with the absurd Christianity ... has exercised a most effective process of conquering all ... forcing a wild rush to make more, and to build bigger. The European barbarian continues the process of destroying every living thing in its worship of money and wealth. It has certainly destroyed the eden of the Native Americans.
No one is a native if you go back far enough. I always imagine when people have this line of discussion they ultimately imagine they're still around but all the other "destroyers" have left and so they get to see how the land used to be.