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Title: Beach Boulevard's Tamaya Development Breaks Ground
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on December 13, 2013, 12:05:02 AM
Beach Boulevard's Tamaya Development Breaks Ground

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/2965719917_WVhcnvn-M.jpg)

Tamaya, a controversial development near the intersection of Beach and Kernan Boulevards, is now under construction. Here is a closer look at the massive project.

Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-dec-beach-boulevards-tamaya-development-breaks-ground
Title: Re: Beach Boulevard's Tamaya Development Breaks Ground
Post by: spuwho on December 13, 2013, 12:20:27 AM
Until Richard Clark stepped in, the master developer for Tamaya was going under and defaulted to their bank and they were going to develop it. He blocked that and forced the bank to get another MD.

But since they relaunched, they have been going back to the city fairly regularly to beg off many of the requirements the city made.

Extension of Alden from Patton Park to Kernan, said they couldn't afford it and that they would have to take park land to do it. Hardly.  Now all the traffic will dump onto Beach. They said they couldn't recover the cost of the roads in the market the houses supply. Also cuts off any walkability access from the Kernan Bike Trail, to Tamaya, and to Patton Park.

There is actually more going on than the picture here shows. They started and then stopped for a period of time with pipes sticking out of the ground for months. Most people didn't notice because they have kept the trees up along Beach to obscure. Now they have started up again in and around the fire station, but again due to the trees being left up, you would hardly notice if you weren't looking.
Title: Re: Beach Boulevard's Tamaya Development Breaks Ground
Post by: thelakelander on December 13, 2013, 06:22:17 AM
I noticed in the new site plan that they don't even leave room for a road between Kernan and Patton Park.  I would have thought something like that could have been incrementally built. There's still a ton of roads. Now, they are just reconfigured in a manner where traffic isn't dispersed equally on all the major streets in the vicinity.
Title: Re: Beach Boulevard's Tamaya Development Breaks Ground
Post by: fieldafm on December 13, 2013, 08:04:29 AM
QuoteI noticed in the new site plan that they don't even leave room for a road between Kernan and Patton Park.  I would have thought something like that could have been incrementally built.

They were given a deviation from the original PUD to no longer have to build that road.  Meaning, it won't ever get built.  That's a really bad idea when the development gets built out, but Clark is certainly no stranger to bad ideas.
Title: Re: Beach Boulevard's Tamaya Development Breaks Ground
Post by: mbwright on December 13, 2013, 08:25:17 AM
Looks like the traffic in the area would be so bad you would never want to leave.  It always seems that if a developer can't afford to do it correctly, they get a pass, especially with regards to infrastructure, and roads.
Title: Re: Beach Boulevard's Tamaya Development Breaks Ground
Post by: Tacachale on December 13, 2013, 08:56:01 AM
Are they really trying to sell this as if people are going to walk from those cul-de-sacs over to the commercial area? Too funny.
Title: Re: Beach Boulevard's Tamaya Development Breaks Ground
Post by: tufsu1 on December 13, 2013, 10:44:18 AM
European style community?
Title: Re: Beach Boulevard's Tamaya Development Breaks Ground
Post by: jcjohnpaint on December 13, 2013, 12:33:21 PM
Something Florida has never seen :o
Title: Re: Beach Boulevard's Tamaya Development Breaks Ground
Post by: spuwho on December 13, 2013, 07:40:39 PM
Quote from: fieldafm on December 13, 2013, 08:04:29 AM
QuoteI noticed in the new site plan that they don't even leave room for a road between Kernan and Patton Park.  I would have thought something like that could have been incrementally built.

They were given a deviation from the original PUD to no longer have to build that road.  Meaning, it won't ever get built.  That's a really bad idea when the development gets built out, but Clark is certainly no stranger to bad ideas.

Which means that any family who wants their kids involved in sports at Patton Park, has to get in a car drive out on Beach, to Hodges North  just to reach the park. Which is somewhat ludicrous because the park will be literally behind them, so close you could walk.  If they put up a perimeter fence around the development, that will seal it.

If the developer was so weak that they couldn't meet even the city's requirements, it should have never been built in the first place.