Jacksonville's Namesakes
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In this short article we'll learn a bit about the people behind the structures that were lovinginly named after them.
Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-oct-jacksonvilles-namesakes
Thanks again for the history.
Anybody want to donate a buck to 2009-442? It's the artificial Reef TRUST fund. Seriously. I'll treat you to Chopstick Charley's and we can use Uber to get there.
How about the namesakes of the six artificial reefs south of the old Fuller Wareen bridge?
Really? What does that have to do with this article?
Isaiah Harts Son, Ossian B Hart, became the 10th Governor of Florida and the first governor to be born in FL:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossian_B._Hart
Sometimes people get the 2 "Harts" confused and think the bridge was named after the governor and not the one in the article.
QuoteThe Isaiah David Hart Bridge is a truss bridge that spans the St. Johns River in Jacksonville, Florida. It carries U.S. Route 1 Alternate/Florida State Road 228. It is named after Isaiah Hart, the founder of Jacksonville. It was designed by Sverdrup & Parcel.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Bridge (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Bridge)
No reference to Napolean Bonaparte Broward?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_B._Broward (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_B._Broward)
His Great Second Cousin is Architect Bob Broward who, planners take note, studied under Frank Lloyd Wright and was given apprenticeships to study in Taliesin East and West. He has a book on the Broward family that dates back to 1764. Bob is still alive with us here in Jacksonville.
For all those who don't know why its not called Dames Point Bridge, or Broward road for that matter.
...........who else thinks Lem Turner is kinda scary looking?
^^^Yup, he definitely had that 'Undertaker' look going on.
and it is Dame Point not Dames Point. Does anybody remember Fulton or Goat Island or Cosmo?
Hart was a slave owner. Do we need to change the name of the bridge?
No. A comment from the NBF thread:
Quote from: thelakelander on October 28, 2013, 06:10:54 AM
^I don't think so. Haydon Burns was a racist too and Isiah Hart was a plantation owner with 48 slaves. No one is talking about renaming the Haydon Burns Library or Hart Bridge.
Let's not group "Nathan Bedford Forrest" into the general term of "Southern". The controversy surrounding this has little to do with South vs North, West or East and more to do with the acts of the guy in question and reason why the place was named after him locally.
Forrest thread here: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,19931.msg351849.html#msg351849
Quote from: coredumped on October 28, 2013, 09:58:10 AM
Isaiah Harts Son, Ossian B Hart, became the 10th Governor of Florida and the first governor to be born in FL:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossian_B._Hart
Sometimes people get the 2 "Harts" confused and think the bridge was named after the governor and not the one in the article.
He also the namesake of Ocean Street downtown... true story.
Edit: Oh... Jaybird Scooped me :-D
What about Alsott? Fuller Warren? Mathews?
Man that dude Lem Turner had a serious beard. Im talking SERIOUS. Dude looks like he had a few dead bodies in his attic he would converse with when he came home from ferry work.....
Quoteand it is Dame Point not Dames Point.
Yeah, right, and Riverside is on the WESTSIDE, good luck getting the local news media to change both.
Quote from: mtraininjax on October 30, 2013, 09:14:04 AM
Quoteand it is Dame Point not Dames Point.
Yeah, right, and Riverside is on the WESTSIDE, good luck getting the local news media to change both.
Is that true? I try to be a stickler for this kind of thing, and i have always heard it as Dames Point. Also, its not just he news. Google maps, which uses an API that pulls names from municiple maps, has that bridge as "Dames Point".
Also, I have always understood that "Dames Point" was the Arlington side of the river. The north side of the river is Yellow Bluff. Any concrete info on this?
http://goo.gl/maps/zj3Ds
Answered my own question. "Dames Point Park" is on Yellow bluff.
http://apps2.coj.net/parksinternet/parkdetails.asp?parkid=194
Like all toponyms, "Dames Point" is accurate because that's what people call it. Riverside is also on the "Westside" according to some people, but to others it's definitely not.
The neighborhood under the bridge on the northside was known as Dame Point. That was long before there was a Dame Point Park. At least that is what I remember it being called. And Yellow Bluff Fort was known as just that. I grew up on the northside and had close friends who lived there. Checking with one of them now to see what she says. Part of the area was also was known as New Berlin.
During the 20+ years it took them to decide to build the bridge, it was known as The Bridge at Dame(s) Point. Though it was the common name for the Bridge the State decided differently.
Quote from: Demosthenes on October 29, 2013, 05:20:53 PM
Quote from: coredumped on October 28, 2013, 09:58:10 AM
Isaiah Harts Son, Ossian B Hart, became the 10th Governor of Florida and the first governor to be born in FL:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossian_B._Hart
Sometimes people get the 2 "Harts" confused and think the bridge was named after the governor and not the one in the article.
He also the namesake of Ocean Street downtown... true story.
Did not know this, learn something new every day
New Berlin supposedly settled by immigrants from Germany. Dame Point is the correct name. But use changes names over the years. Wonder if anyone remembers Cosmo?
Spoke with my friend who grew up down there , she was born in 1957.
She said she always knew it as Dames Point. Her Grand Father (not sure how many greats that is) was Henry Von Balson, a German immigrant.
Quote from: HisBuffPVB on November 03, 2013, 06:50:49 PM
New Berlin supposedly settled by immigrants from Germany. Dame Point is the correct name. But use changes names over the years. Wonder if anyone remembers Cosmo?
I'm not saying you're wrong, I have just never once seem it labelled as Dame Point. There has got to be a paper trail. The city wouldn't just rename the park because people accidentally added an S.
You never know. Ocean Street is named after Isaiah Hart's son Ossian.
this popped up in my Facebook feed- pretty interesting read.