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Title: JU's Public Policy Institute Hosts Panel on Drones
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on October 22, 2013, 04:26:45 AM
JU's Public Policy Institute Hosts Panel on Drones

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Jacksonville University's newly formed, and soon to be ubiquitous, Public Policy Institute, is holding a panel discussion this Thursday, October 24 at the Gooding Auditorium on "Military and Private Drone Usage" and what this and coming technology means to our country/world.


Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-oct-jus-public-policy-institute-hosts-panel-on-drones
Title: Re: JU's Public Policy Institute Hosts Panel on Drone Tech
Post by: TheCat on October 22, 2013, 11:50:49 AM
So, what are some  privacy concerns...


In 1989 the Supreme Court ruled in Florida vs. Riley that the public air space is just that, public and the police do not need a warrant to look at private property. If they happen to see something illegal then they are free to take appropriate action. Police do not need a warrant to fly over private property for surveillance.

When you're talking about helicopters conducting surveillance operations there are, thankfully, obvious restrictions. The flights have a pilot. Pilots need to eat. They get tired. They have to use the bathroom. They have families they want to see. The actual machine is costly. It requires fuel and maintenance and it can't comfortably stay in one position while in flight. The entire operation is costly in terms of man power and financial expense.

With drones, it's a whole new game. Those things can stay in the air for days just hovering over private property. They don't really need an operator. The police are currently legally entitled to just watch and collect data on the property and persons they've decided to watch.

It's not just governmental surveillance that is at issue. A neighbor has the same right to fly a drone over private property and conduct their own "surveillance".

This will take paparazzi to a whole new level.   

All this to say, who wants to get into the drone blinding business with me?
Title: Re: JU's Public Policy Institute Hosts Panel on Drone Tech
Post by: TheCat on October 23, 2013, 01:28:28 PM
1 More Day until the panel event. A reminder that Ambassador Nancy Soderberg is part of the panel. If you didn't see her interview on the Daily Show you can catch it on this link:

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-oct-jus-public-policy-institute-hosts-panel-on-drones/page/3

The event Flyer:

http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/Other/Jacksonville-University/i-3KDBrXF/0/XL/Drone%20Panel%20Flyer%201-XL.jpg
Title: Re: JU's Public Policy Institute Hosts Panel on Drones
Post by: BridgeTroll on October 24, 2013, 01:08:49 PM
Quote from: TheCat on October 22, 2013, 11:50:49 AM
So, what are some  privacy concerns...


In 1989 the Supreme Court ruled in Florida vs. Riley that the public air space is just that, public and the police do not need a warrant to look at private property. If they happen to see something illegal then they are free to take appropriate action. Police do not need a warrant to fly over private property for surveillance.

When you're talking about helicopters conducting surveillance operations there are, thankfully, obvious restrictions. The flights have a pilot. Pilots need to eat. They get tired. They have to use the bathroom. They have families they want to see. The actual machine is costly. It requires fuel and maintenance and it can't comfortably stay in one position while in flight. The entire operation is costly in terms of man power and financial expense.

With drones, it's a whole new game. Those things can stay in the air for days just hovering over private property. They don't really need an operator. The police are currently legally entitled to just watch and collect data on the property and persons they've decided to watch.

It's not just governmental surveillance that is at issue. A neighbor has the same right to fly a drone over private property and conduct their own "surveillance".

This will take paparazzi to a whole new level.   

All this to say, who wants to get into the drone blinding business with me?


I see the ruling regarding public airspace as not changing.  An attempted change to this would likely have a detrimental cause and effect to many other public space issues.  If you don't want something seen... cover it up.

As to paparazzi or private drones... I would like to see a ruling to treat them as you would a branch from the neighbor's tree overhanging your property... you lop it off... or in this case... shoot it down, or catch it with a net or zap it with a laser...
Title: Re: JU's Public Policy Institute Hosts Panel on Drones
Post by: TheCat on October 24, 2013, 03:15:41 PM
The Panel starts in three hours.

Title: Re: JU's Public Policy Institute Hosts Panel on Drones
Post by: Cheshire Cat on October 25, 2013, 05:44:28 PM
So how did the discussion go and what kind of turn out was there on this compelling topic?
Title: Re: JU's Public Policy Institute Hosts Panel on Drones
Post by: TheCat on December 01, 2013, 10:15:52 PM
Amazon Prime Air

http://www.youtube.com/v/98BIu9dpwHU

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/01/amazon-prime-air-delivery-drones_n_4369685.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/01/amazon-prime-air-delivery-drones_n_4369685.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009)