It appears that work on the long abandoned Goodby's Creek condo project will be underway soon. If this structure is still in sound condition, is there any hope that what remains of Berkman II is salvageable?
QuoteThe Cove at St. Johns starting renovations
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by Karen Brune Mathis, Managing Editor
Developers of the unfinished Goodby's Creek condominiums in Jacksonville's Baymeadows area have filed plans to restart the project.
Referred to as The Cove at St. Johns on plans, the name will be changed, according to Frank Tetel, vice president of owner and developer Prospect Property Group.
Tetel declined to provide the name, timeline or pricing of the project, but said a sales team should be on-site soon and all the information will be provided.
Tetel said the four Cove at St. Johns structures are in good shape and Prospect is proceeding with the initial plans.
"We are following a plan similar to the originally approved plans, and the current condition of the buildings is excellent and we are just finishing the buildings," Tetel said Monday
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This is at least concert block construction therefore why it held up better. I would be very leerie to purchase in BerkmanII after sitting like that for so many years. Not to mention the cheap EFIS construction of it. Perhaps should make it apartments? Maybe willing to rent there if no could get out if issues begin arising.
Oops. Meant concrete block.
EFIS isn't structural. It can be ripped out and replaced. Like The Cove, Berkman II is precast concrete. Also, like Berkman, the Cove has sat exposed to the elements, just as long if not a little longer.
I was at Jaxtoberfest this weekend and happened to walk by Berkman II. The structure has some significant issues even from just visible observation.
Concrete has begun cracking and popping on walls and balconies thereby exposing rebar or as the result of oxidation/rusting of structural steel/rebar from not properly sealing concrete, i.e. waterproofing. In some instances, as many as 15 or more nails were protruding from the underside of balconies where forms were improperly used for concrete work. With that many significant problems obvious to the naked eye, I can only imagine the true extent of the structural issues especially if the quality of work performed is indicative of the quality of the structure as a whole.
The most probable outcome for the Berkman is demolition given the costs to remediate. Just a guess though. ;-)
Quote from: thelakelander on October 15, 2013, 09:56:30 AM
It appears that work on the long abandoned Goodby's Creek condo project will be underway soon. If this structure is still in sound condition, is there any hope that what remains of Berkman II is salvageable?
I wondered the same thing when I first heard about this the other day. I'd be vary wary if I were a prospective buyer.
Quote from: icarus on October 15, 2013, 11:38:16 AM
The most probable outcome for the Berkman is demolition given the costs to remediate. Just a guess though. ;-)
Maybe a deal can be struck with a film project in need of a half-built skyscraper to utilize or destroy.
Considering the parking deck collapsed due to poor concrete work... I'd stay away from the building! Yikes.
I do not believe the exterior walls of the BerkmanII are concrete. That is where the EFIS would come into play. I saw it and the first one going up and exterior walls added to the steel structure after.
I'm not saying the Berkman II is safe, but keep in mind the garage and main building were being done by different contractors. Structural issues may not exist with the II. It may be more of an issue with still pending lawsuits.
Quote from: edjax on October 15, 2013, 02:59:09 PM
I do not believe the exterior walls of the BerkmanII are concrete. That is where the EFIS would come into play. I saw it and the first one going up and exterior walls added to the steel structure after.
The condition of EFIS shouldn't matter. It's not load bearing, so it should be replaceable. The key would be the condition of the precast concrete structure. If it's not sound, then it needs to come down but that would be a pretty expensive proposition as well.
I'm suprised to see this one reawakening. I thought for sure they would be coming down.