Las Vegas announced that the Jag-Broncos games has tied the NFL record for the largest spread in history.
-28
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9785515/denver-broncos-tie-record-highest-point-spread (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9785515/denver-broncos-tie-record-highest-point-spread)
The kingpins of betting admitted they struggled to figure out what an appropriate spread should be. ESPN also published the "Stay Classy" Twitter war.
Jacksonville Jaguars ✔ @jaguars
Stay classy, Denver. RT @DenverBroncos: The #Broncos' 51 points in yesterday's win are as many points as the Jaguars have scored all season.
Denver's original tweet:
Denver Broncos ✔ @DenverBroncos
No shots, just stats. RT @jaguars: Stay classy, Denver. MT @DenverBroncos: #Broncos' 51 pts Sun. are as many as JAX has scored all season.
Of all the records Peyton Manning is laying waste to through the first five weeks of this season -- 20 passing touchdowns, 1,884 passing yards, 230 points -- it is perhaps this number that best defines how dominant he and the Denver Broncos have been: minus-28.
That's how many points Denver is favored by over the Jacksonville Jaguars in Week 6 opening lines posted by the Las Vegas Hotel.
According to The Gold Sheet, a sports-betting publication that has been tracking point spreads since the 1950s, that number ties the highest spread of all time, set by the Baltimore Colts over the expansion Atlanta Falcons in 1966. The Falcons covered. It is the highest since the AFL-NFL merger in 1970.
"The Jaguars are just so awful, and the interest in betting on the Broncos has been pretty consistent," Jay Kornegay, who runs the sports book at the Las Vegas Hotel, said Sunday night. "There's a group of us here who put together the lines for each week, and it took us 10-15 minutes to debate what this number would be. Some folks didn't feel that good about making history with this."
The Broncos have become the kind of team that recreational bettors can't stay away from. They're scoring 46 points per game, which is 16 points more than the second-best team in the league, the Dallas Cowboys. They are winning games by an average of 18 points, and other than against the Cowboys this past Sunday, they've covered not just the point spread, but the over in every game.
In recent history, it's a run matched only by the 2007 New England Patriots, who went undefeated during the regular season and began the year 8-0 against the spread, regularly winning as 15- or 16-point favorites. But despite how dominant they had been, even the Patriots didn't see spreads that approached more than three touchdowns until the second half of the season. It happened three times -- 24 against the Philadelphia Eagles, 20½ against the New York Jets and 22 against the Miami Dolphins -- and all three times the underdogs covered. In fact, after starting the season as can't-miss favorites, the Pats went 2-8 against the spread to end the season, including their only outright loss, in the Super Bowl against the New York Giants.
"The Pats were a nightmare for us in every way," Kornegay said. "At first we couldn't stop losing because everyone was on them and they covered. Then once they didn't cover, all the money kept coming in against them. There was nothing we could do."
But the Broncos didn't become four-touchdown favorites six weeks into the season just because they seem to score at will and Manning makes even the best defenses look silly. The Jaguars contributed, too.
As historically awesome as Denver has been, Jacksonville has been equally bad. It took the Jags nearly two games to score a touchdown. It's only thanks to their 20-point outburst against the St. Louis Rams, a relative bonanza, that they're averaging slightly more than 10 points per game, fewer than any other team. (The Jaguars' 51 total points are equal to what the Broncos scored Sunday against Dallas, which Denver pointed out via its Twitter account, garnering a quick response by the Jaguars in a follow-up tweet).
The Broncos didn't miss a beat, responding soon after.
Even worse for the Jaguars, their 112-point differential is tied for second-fewest through five games in league history. (They can thank the 1971 Eagles for being 11 points more inept.)
They have already lost a game in which they were nearly 20-point underdogs -- to the Seattle Seahawks -- by 28 points.
Even many of the professionals in Las Vegas, who pride themselves on betting against big favorites, have turned their backs on the Jaguars. But the best example of how lightly regarded the Jags are by bookmakers and the betting public is the fact that, in Week 5, they were double-digit underdogs to the Rams, a team that had yet to cover a spread this season and was on a three-game losing streak.
The Jaguars did not cover.
Kornegay and his team had been looking ahead to this game for weeks, thinking about basic line-making factors such as how each team was playing and what the betting patterns were. Their challenge is finding a line that will draw equal action on both sides. And, more than anything, the factor that mattered most was public perception. What do fans think of the Broncos? What do fans think of the Jaguars? Those are questions the oddsmakers have been asking themselves, knowing this game was on the horizon.
As a test balloon, they floated a line of Denver minus-26½ several days before the Week 5 games, nearly 10 days in advance of the matchup. Early on, the professional bettors made a few bets on the Jags. "But, today, we saw the public betting on the Rams as nearly two-touchdown favorites against Jacksonville. The Rams!" Kornegay said Sunday night. "Meanwhile, all the money was coming in on the Broncos against the Cowboys. It was clear to us we were going to have to open that number higher."
Historically high, it turns out.
Breaking news!!!!!
The pressure is on. This is our POWERBOWL!!!!!
We don't have much of a chance of winning on Sunday, but it would be a nice moral victory to beat the spread.
In fact, if I was a betting man, I'd totally pick the Jags here.
28 points is just too wide.
I'd take the Broncos. They'll have 28 or more by half time. Jags will struggle to get more than 14.
Only way I see the Jags beating the spread is, with blowout safely in hand, Manning sits the 4th and Blackmon goes on a run.
If Denver sits on the 4th, it will be the first time they've done it this year. Unless Manning rides the bench in the 4th, they'll keep scoring throughout the game.
Quote from: thelakelander on October 08, 2013, 10:24:02 AM
Jags will struggle to get more than 14.
Don't forget that Chad Henne is the undisputed King Of Garbage Time. He's good for a TD or two there.
Quote from: Bridges on October 08, 2013, 10:39:41 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on October 08, 2013, 10:24:02 AM
Jags will struggle to get more than 14.
Don't forget that Chad Henne is the undisputed King Of Garbage Time. He's good for a TD or two there.
Which is awesome! Because I'm afraid garbage time will start around the middle of the 2nd quarter. Lol.
(I kid, I kid.... I-10, breathe my man, breathe)
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBN_BIGGEST_LINE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-10-07-17-36-18 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBN_BIGGEST_LINE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-10-07-17-36-18)
When will this nightmare be over? It is so very tough to be a Jags fan this year. When the AP picks up on how "hapless" your team is, then it is bad. To me, it could be even worse than the 4 touchdown spread unless they bench Manning in the second half, which is entirely possible.
I am not into wishing injuries, but what if Manning goes out due to a fluke hit by Cyprien in the first quarter?
Can anyone name the Broncos backup QB?
Anything is possible in the NFL.
Quote from: spuwho on October 08, 2013, 09:50:45 PM
I am not into wishing injuries, but what if Manning goes out due to a fluke hit by Cyprien in the first quarter?
Can anyone name the Broncos backup QB?
Anything is possible in the NFL.
Brock Oswieller
Quote from: spuwho on October 08, 2013, 09:50:45 PM
I am not into wishing injuries, but what if Manning goes out due to a fluke hit by Cyprien in the first quarter?
Can anyone name the Broncos backup QB?
Anything is possible in the NFL.
The Jags have a pass rush? It's kind of hard to get QB sacks, hits and pressures when you're on your back, 10 yards down field.
I think they should get paid half if they loose..the other half goes to a charity...these boys make millions as loosers...
Quote from: Garden guy on October 09, 2013, 08:07:57 AM
I think they should get paid half if they loose..the other half goes to a charity...these boys make millions as loosers...
They play loose?
They play looser than the other team?
Their shoes aren't tied tightly?
The uniforms don't fit properly?
WTF are you saying? I would ground my son for a week if he ever even texted me anything as dumb as what you just wrote. Probably a month if he put it on Facebook where others could see.
GG, you might want to go sit in timeout and think about what you did wrong.
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on October 09, 2013, 08:23:32 AM
Quote from: Garden guy on October 09, 2013, 08:07:57 AM
I think they should get paid half if they loose..the other half goes to a charity...these boys make millions as loosers...
i could care less what you think...the whole nfl bullshit is a travesty..
They play loose?
They play looser than the other team?
Their shoes aren't tied tightly?
The uniforms don't fit properly?
WTF are you saying? I would ground my son for a week if he ever even texted me anything as dumb as what you just wrote. Probably a month if he put it on Facebook where others could see.
GG, you might want to go sit in timeout and think about what you did wrong.
Quote from: Garden guy on October 09, 2013, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on October 09, 2013, 08:23:32 AM
Quote from: Garden guy on October 09, 2013, 08:07:57 AM
I think they should get paid half if they loose..the other half goes to a charity...these boys make millions as loosers...
They play loose?
They play looser than the other team?
Their shoes aren't tied tightly?
The uniforms don't fit properly?
WTF are you saying? I would ground my son for a week if he ever even texted me anything as dumb as what you just wrote. Probably a month if he put it on Facebook where others could see.
GG, you might want to go sit in timeout and think about what you did wrong.
i could care less what you think...the whole nfl bullshit is a travesty..
You need to work on your quotes. ;)
You really need to be more specific. Which 'whole NFL' are you talking about? The millions they donate in charity? The millions that they entertain? The millions in business revenue that they bring to cities 12+ weeks a year?
I mean.... they're not exactly holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy tickets, or jerseys, or $8 beer, or ..... whatever else.
You say 'travesty'. That would mean they're mis-representing themselves, no? I think they pretty much provide exactly what they say they are, which means you need to look up another word.
Have you tried Sudoku? It may work better for you. There's only 9 numbers that can be used and you won't have to worry about getting that whole 'subject / predicate' thing right.
Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on October 09, 2013, 08:52:51 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on October 09, 2013, 08:23:32 AM
Their shoes aren't tied tightly?
Well, there's Robinson...
Hahaha.... Has he had to come out of pocket for being 'out of uniform' yet?
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on October 09, 2013, 08:23:32 AM
Quote from: Garden guy on October 09, 2013, 08:07:57 AM
I think they should get paid half if they loose..the other half goes to a charity...these boys make millions as loosers...
They play loose?
They play looser than the other team?
Their shoes aren't tied tightly?
The uniforms don't fit properly?
WTF are you saying? I would ground my son for a week if he ever even texted me anything as dumb as what you just wrote. Probably a month if he put it on Facebook where others could see.
GG, you might want to go sit in timeout and think about what you did wrong.
;D I literally just spit coffee on my desk
Quote from: thelakelander on October 08, 2013, 10:33:56 AM
If Denver sits on the 4th, it will be the first time they've done it this year. Unless Manning rides the bench in the 4th, they'll keep scoring throughout the game.
Quote from: thelakelander on October 09, 2013, 07:56:58 AM
Quote from: spuwho on October 08, 2013, 09:50:45 PM
I am not into wishing injuries, but what if Manning goes out due to a fluke hit by Cyprien in the first quarter?
Can anyone name the Broncos backup QB?
Anything is possible in the NFL.
The Jags have a pass rush? It's kind of hard to get QB sacks, hits and pressures when you're on your back, 10 yards down field.
Such a pass rush that they just may be scared enough to sit Manning altogether. :)
http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/1382/peyton-manning-always-wants-to-play (http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-broncos/post/_/id/1382/peyton-manning-always-wants-to-play)
FWIW, the Jaguars do have 10 sacks this year, which isn't anything special, but on pace to be well ahead of last year's total.
Shad Khan gets asked by TMZ about Tebow today, here:
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_2oz6tjej/?adid=rr_raw_uncut
P.S. Why did the regular Jags thread get locked?
Quote from: KenFSU on October 09, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
P.S. Why did the regular Jags thread get locked?
I wondered same thing, think it is a glitch because a few boards have been erroneously locked over past few days.
For anyone that is overly concerned about this whole point spread record nonsense, the line is now -27; no more record. :)
What's the over/under on seeing Indy's Denver's punter get some playing time before the end of the 3rd quarter?
Quote from: KenFSU on October 09, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
Shad Khan gets asked by TMZ about Tebow today, here:
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_2oz6tjej/?adid=rr_raw_uncut
P.S. Why did the regular Jags thread get locked?
He was game until the hired gun with a mic kept asking the same question. Then he had no time for him.
Give Shad his due, he
will make a difference for the Jags.
Quote from: Shwaz on October 09, 2013, 09:17:42 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on October 09, 2013, 08:23:32 AM
Quote from: Garden guy on October 09, 2013, 08:07:57 AM
I think they should get paid half if they loose..the other half goes to a charity...these boys make millions as loosers...
They play loose?
They play looser than the other team?
Their shoes aren't tied tightly?
The uniforms don't fit properly?
WTF are you saying? I would ground my son for a week if he ever even texted me anything as dumb as what you just wrote. Probably a month if he put it on Facebook where others could see.
GG, you might want to go sit in timeout and think about what you did wrong.
;D I literally just spit coffee on my desk
lol... me too... Thanks NRW... and of course... GG!! :o ::)
Quote from: JayBird on October 09, 2013, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on October 09, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
P.S. Why did the regular Jags thread get locked?
I wondered same thing, think it is a glitch because a few boards have been erroneously locked over past few days.
What other threads have been locked recently? I'll try to find and reopen them.
Look, Garden guy should be commended for going an entire post without mentioning the First Baptist Church. Baby steps!
Quote from: funwithteeth on October 10, 2013, 09:51:34 AM
Look, Garden guy should be commended for going an entire post without mentioning the First Baptist Church. Baby steps!
Lol. Someone told me pretty much the same thing yesterday.
Quote from: thelakelander on October 10, 2013, 09:37:51 AM
Quote from: JayBird on October 09, 2013, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on October 09, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
P.S. Why did the regular Jags thread get locked?
I wondered same thing, think it is a glitch because a few boards have been erroneously locked over past few days.
What other threads have been locked recently? I'll try to find and reopen them.
Messaged one or two to stephendare the other day, if I come across the others I'll let you know. They were older threads (3-6 months) so it wasn't a great importance. Thanks for unlocking the Jaguars thread