An article in today's NJ indicates a contract is in place to build the new Greyhound terminal a few blocks from the Prime Osborne.
Does this mean that all the work to influence the proper implementation of a compact intermodal transportation center is now moot?
Could not find online copy of article to reference here.
It means we're screwed with Greyhound being an option in a compact intermodal center. However, it doesn't mean we have to fund the rest of complex as previously proposed.
Quote from: thelakelander on August 30, 2013, 02:27:24 PM
It means we're screwed with Greyhound being an option in a compact intermodal center. However, it doesn't mean we have to fund the rest of complex as previously proposed.
The JRTC as a real 'TC' just got thrown under the bus for a shortsighted agenda.
QuoteIn other action, the JTA board awarded a $5 million contract to Core Construction Co. to build a new intercity bus terminal in the LaVilla neighborhood, a few blocks from the Prime Osborn Convention Center.
When the one-year construction project finishes, Greyhound will relocate from its downtown station next to the EverBank Tower. Federal Transit Administration grants are paying for construction of the new terminal.
SOURCE MASS TRANSIT MAGAZINE: http://www.masstransitmag.com/news/11135122/jta-will-keep-skyway-free-for-riders-another-year?utm_source=MASS+NewsViews+Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MASS130827002
'Jacksonville, where stupid reigns... play it again Sam...'
One thing it does do is make the idea of a vibrant Union Station style terminal a little less realistic. A major benefit of a shared terminal facility is having a compact mass of people to support leasable retail and restaurant space. With Greyhound being a few blocks away, you've lost as much as 1/3rd your potential captive audience. You've also increased your overall project costs by having at least a second terminal/waiting facility and all the support spaces associated with it. IMO, this would be a prime example of siloing that the visitors bureau guy mentioned the other day.
^ I completely agree, Lake. In my opinion, this is where Mayor Brown has really failed in his leadership. I had such high hopes that he would be able to break down many of the "silos" that occur in Jacksonville. The silo idea is truly unique to Jacksonville. I've never lived in a city where it was so prevalent, and I struggle to understand how a city like this became so isolationist in its management and growth.
glad to know that Federal funds are again being wasted :'(
Quote from: brainstormer on September 04, 2013, 05:34:35 PM
The silo idea is truly unique to Jacksonville.
SADLY, THIS IS FAR FROM TRUE
Quote from: tufsu1 on September 04, 2013, 10:47:40 PM
Quote from: brainstormer on September 04, 2013, 05:34:35 PM
The silo idea is truly unique to Jacksonville.
SADLY, THIS IS FAR FROM TRUE
Siloing is an aspect of every organization on earth, from companies and non-profits to governments. They range on a spectrum of severity. Breaking down silos is a huge focus of operations.
That being said, the idea that "everything about every situation is unique, because Jacksonville" has created tons of silos itself. We can find examples and combine successes all over the country of cities and municipalities that could help break down our silos and create a better city. But we keep saying, "oh, no, that idea won't work here, cause we're so unique", and it's just not true.
Quote from: Bridges on September 05, 2013, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on September 04, 2013, 10:47:40 PM
Quote from: brainstormer on September 04, 2013, 05:34:35 PM
The silo idea is truly unique to Jacksonville.
SADLY, THIS IS FAR FROM TRUE
Siloing is an aspect of every organization on earth, from companies and non-profits to governments. They range on a spectrum of severity. Breaking down silos is a huge focus of operations.
That being said, the idea that "everything about every situation is unique, because Jacksonville" has created tons of silos itself. We can find examples and combine successes all over the country of cities and municipalities that could help break down our silos and create a better city. But we keep saying, "oh, no, that idea won't work here, cause we're so unique", and it's just not true.
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