Who stalks?
Why do they stalk?
What do they hope to accomplish?
What can a person do who is being stalked?
Anyone know about this?
Can you "out" him?
Fair enough. General discussion it is.
Quote from: Apache on June 29, 2013, 06:00:25 PM
1) Unstable people.
2) They are unstable.
3) You can't rationalize an unstable mind so this question has no answer.
4) Here is the big question right. Unfortunately I believe it's very hard to get law enforcement involved prior to something tragic happening. Therefore I believe there are only two things one can do to successfully combat a true crazy stalker. a) Arm your self with a small (so you can keep it with you at all times) firearm and get training on how to use it safely and properly (b) get your friends, family and neighbors involved as much as possible so they are aware and can help protect the person being stalked. Unfortunately there's not much more to do and a true crazy stalker is no joke and not to be taken lightly.
Good assessment. Here is some more information.
Stalking is one of the behaviors of a sociopath. A sociopath (studies show 1 in 25 people are) lacks a conscience. That seventh sense the rest of us have, a sociopath lacks completely. No feelings of guilt or remorse. Sociopaths have a greater need for stimulus than normal and take frequent social, physical, financial and/or legal risks. They are charming, they are manipulating. They are especially noted for their shallowness of emotion where their hollow nature of affectionate feelings are callous. They have no trace of empathy, and no genuine interest in bonding emotionally with at mate. They have no emotional attachments to other people. Their life and their jobs are camouflages for who they really are. They seek psychological prey. They can not love and see everything in their life as a game, a game they must win. Victims are merely pawns and knights in a chess game. A sociopath has spent his/her life getting better at the game. Life is reduced to a contest, and other human beings seem to be nothing more than game pieces, to be moved about, used as shields, or ejected.
Robert Hare, professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia writes: "Everyone, including the experts, can be taken in, manipulated, conned, and left bewildered by them. A good psychopath can play a concerto on anyone's heartstrings. . .Your best defense is the understand the nature of these human predators."
Sociopaths are dangerous and remarkably difficult to identify. Conscience cherishes humanistic ideas more than laws. Sociopaths lack this. What a sociopath wants, controlling others - - winning - - is more compelling than anything (or anyone) else. Most sociopaths are invisible. They are rarely prosecuted and are not the folks incarcerated. They are here in the world with you and me.
(Quoted and summarized from "the sociopath next door" by marth stout, ph.d.)
How long do stalker stalk? Is there an average stalker?
From the book again (the sociopath next door, by martha stout ph.d.)
What can the conscience-bound do about the guiltless?
1. Accept that some people literally have no conscience.
2. Go with your instincts
3. When considering a new relationship of any kind, practice the Rules of Threes* regarding the claims and promises a person makes, and the responsibilities he or she has. Make the Rule of Threes your personal policy.
4. Question authority.
5. Suspect flattery.
6. If necessary, redefine your concept of respect.
7. Do not join the game.
8. The best way to protect yourself from a sociopath is to avoid him/her.
9. Question your tendency to pity too easily.
10. Do not try to redeem the unredeemable.
11. Never agree, out of pity or for any other reason, to help a sociopath conceal his or her true character.
12. Defend your psyche.
13. Living well is the best revenge.
*One lie, one broken promise, or a single neglected responsibility may be a misunderstanding instead. Two may involve a serious mistake. But three lies say you are dealing with a liar and deceit is the linchpin of a conscienceless behavior.
Stephen's experience (certainly the first one he wrote about above) and the ones we see on the 6 o'clock news are what we understand sociopathy to be. I speak only of the "one next door." The wolf in sheep's clothing. That's what this book is about and where my knowledge lies in study.
What a terrible experience for you. How did you cope?
You, Stephen, are one remarkable survivor. I admire your strong personal character.
The first stalking legislation was enacted in California in 1990.
The problem is that, individually, the stalking behavior is not necessarily illegal. It is not illegal to text, or to call. It is not illegal to send packages.
Not illegal to set up appointments for their victims at random places. Take out ads in the newspaper.
The day in and day out contact is what he thrives on, and it is the accumulated series of behaviors, taken as a whole, which constitutes the stalking.
It is tough stuff to deal with.
http://www.youtube.com/v/YcB0lZFcQiM
Quote from: sheclown on June 30, 2013, 08:15:53 AM
The first stalking legislation was enacted in California in 1990.
The problem is that, individually, the stalking behavior is not necessarily illegal. It is not illegal to text, or to call. It is not illegal to send packages.
Not illegal to set up appointments for their victims at random places. Take out ads in the newspaper.
The day in and day out contact is what he thrives on, and it is the accumulated series of behaviors, taken as a whole, which constitutes the stalking.
It is tough stuff to deal with.
Actually it IS against the law, even in Duval County. For those that post often have probably heard me discuss my "Voluntold" job with a Springfield-based not-for-profit and I have had to deal with this on several occasions. Unfortunately, in the process of rehabilitating those whom have gone adrift of the law in the past are often used to such a lifestyle and are unsure how to stop. After being "involuntarily separated" from exes and families and friends for a period of years, many form an attachment to the "idea" of a person that they once knew. An interesting phenomenon is that when most return to society, they pick up right where they left off, even though the rest of the world continued growing and living. Obviously, this results in action be required of law enforcement because our promise to the men is to help them transition back into society as a productive member who can contribute something back to their neighbors. Our promise to families and the community in general is to keep them safe from the "manipulations" that was their last life.
Specifically in Duval County, there is a way to stop this. But it takes work, and here is why. When you dial 630-0500 and a deputy responds to take a report, the majority of the time it is unfounded and the police are being used as a pawn between two feuding people. Secondly, those where reports are filed and followed through to the States Attorneys office must at some point go in front of a judge and the victim can be intimidated by this. After all, that is what the manipulator wants, recognition and face time. But remember, the officer that took has to be there. That means they came off duty or from their time off to the courtroom to stand alongside the victim. When one doesn't show, that makes them less inclined to file a report the next time.
Here are the key things that would help put a stop to stalking before someone has to call 911 and ask for an ambulance and a cop car:
1.) Do NOT respond to them or engage in any way, once you do that is considered to be "engaging the conversation" and the only response the first year law student defending the stalker needs to give was that the victim "elicited a response".
2.) The one exception to the above, one text (preferably) or recorded phone call that has the victim saying "Please do not contact any more". That is it, you have to be careful to not make a threat because this insinuates an ongoing feud.
3.) Once you have proof of harassment via texts or recorded phone calls (any packages from person should be sent back unopened) than you can call 630-0500 (JSO Non-emergency) or go to the clerk of courts and file a civil complaint. I have included the statute below that the victim should cite when filing their complaint.
4.) Not another point, but an addition to #3, if you are receiving packages I did have one client whom had an ex wife that he would send stuff to in St Johns County. She knew it was him, but because he didn't put his name on the package she had a "suspicious" package on her step and called 911. This brought deputies, the county bomb squad and the ATF unit out of Jacksonville. The package was deemed to have been a teddy bear (not threatening in any way) but after she explained the scenario, they promptly (with the assistance of JSO) showed up at our Boulevard residence and arrested the man. I would not suggest this, but it was effective. Two days later the charges were dropped and he has not tried anything since.
5.) Filing that complaint is important because once they are served, ANY contact (this includes driving by residence unless no other route is available) is an immediate cause for arrest.
Now, you have to fight. The victim in these incidents has to be strong and persistent. The easiest way is probably to associate today's stalking laws with domestic violence of the early 80's, they exist but if you want them enforced, you'll have to make the officers do their job.
Here is the statute:
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784.048 Stalking; definitions; penalties.â€"
(1) As used in this section, the term:
(a) “Harass†means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person which causes substantial emotional distress to that person and serves no legitimate purpose.
(b) “Course of conduct†means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short, which evidences a continuity of purpose. The term does not include constitutionally protected activity such as picketing or other organized protests.
(c) “Credible threat†means a verbal or nonverbal threat, or a combination of the two, including threats delivered by electronic communication or implied by a pattern of conduct, which places the person who is the target of the threat in reasonable fear for his or her safety or the safety of his or her family members or individuals closely associated with the person, and which is made with the apparent ability to carry out the threat to cause such harm. It is not necessary to prove that the person making the threat had the intent to actually carry out the threat. The present incarceration of the person making the threat is not a bar to prosecution under this section.
(d) “Cyberstalk†means to engage in a course of conduct to communicate, or to cause to be communicated, words, images, or language by or through the use of electronic mail or electronic communication, directed at a specific person, causing substantial emotional distress to that person and serving no legitimate purpose.
(2) A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(3) A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person and makes a credible threat to that person commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(4) A person who, after an injunction for protection against repeat violence, sexual violence, or dating violence pursuant to s. 784.046, or an injunction for protection against domestic violence pursuant to s. 741.30, or after any other court-imposed prohibition of conduct toward the subject person or that person’s property, knowingly, willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(5) A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks a child under 16 years of age commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(6) A law enforcement officer may arrest, without a warrant, any person that he or she has probable cause to believe has violated this section.
(7) A person who, after having been sentenced for a violation of s. 794.011, s. 800.04, or s. 847.0135(5) and prohibited from contacting the victim of the offense under s. 921.244, willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks the victim commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(8.) The punishment imposed under this section shall run consecutive to any former sentence imposed for a conviction for any offense under s. 794.011, s. 800.04, or s. 847.0135(5).
(9)(a) The sentencing court shall consider, as a part of any sentence, issuing an order restraining the defendant from any contact with the victim, which may be valid for up to 10 years, as determined by the court. It is the intent of the Legislature that the length of any such order be based upon the seriousness of the facts before the court, the probability of future violations by the perpetrator, and the safety of the victim and his or her family members or individuals closely associated with the victim.
(b) The order may be issued by the court even if the defendant is sentenced to a state prison or a county jail or even if the imposition of the sentence is suspended and the defendant is placed on probation.
History.â€"s. 1, ch. 92-208; s. 29, ch. 94-134; s. 29, ch. 94-135; s. 2, ch. 97-27; s. 23, ch. 2002-55; s. 1, ch. 2003-23; s. 3, ch. 2004-17; s. 3, ch. 2004-256; s. 17, ch. 2008-172; s. 2, ch. 2012-153.
There are also several agencies in Jacksonville that can provide assistance
Go to the new courthouse, room 2409 and speak with a harassment counselor. This is the Domestic Violence unit, however they can supply you with the necessary information.
Jax Legal Aid on Adams Street can also provide assistance when it comes to filing for a restraining order.
On a personal note, it is not easy. I have had to work with JSO deputies on six of these cases over the past four years and it is a process in which the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Also, it is much easier to file these charges against someone whose had run-ins with the law in the law in the past versus someone who appears to be an upright citizen. The most important thing is to have a record of harrassment. Journals where the victim recount everything that occurs will work, but texts/emails/recorded phone calls and pictures of packages that were sent back are so much better. Courts are visual, the more they can look at the better they will react.
As for recorded phone calls, voice mail messages are admissible for obtaining restraining orders. Actual phone calls must be told that they are being recorded. Everything AFTER that statement is admissible. But I would strongly advise to never engage in a phone call.
Hope this was helpful in whatever situation caused you to post. As always, if you know someone being stalked or harassed please encourage them to report, until they are on the police radar they can get away with anything and may end up hurting someone else. In the case of Stephen, you can see what happens when it goes too far. Thankfully his stalker chose to take it out on themselves, however this is almost split perfectly 50/50 between those whom harm themselves and those whom attack the object of their obsession. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell which one they'll do until they do it ... And JSO's response times aren't good enough to provide me with comfort in that scenario. And the only reason we have the laws we do today is because people like Stephen had the courage to stand up and take a stand.
Jason Bird, Sr. Case Mgr.
Prisoners of Christ
(904) 773-3466
jebird@ymail.com
What a horrid experience.
It does bring up my next question. Stalkers are serial, are they not? They move from one person to another? Do they usually start during adolescence? And stalk till they're dead?
It seems as if the compulsion to stalk is much like other compulsive behaviors that don't just stop.
Quote from: sheclown on June 30, 2013, 11:50:07 AM
What a horrid experience.
It does bring up my next question. Stalkers are serial, are they not? They move from one person to another? Do they usually start during adolescence? And stalk till they're dead?
It seems as if the compulsion to stalk is much like other compulsive behaviors that don't just stop.
I'm in agreement with Stephen here. Psychology taught me that stalkers are not serial, that they have this attraction to one person and it manifests itself and can never be cured. All that can be done is to teach them how to control those impulses. The ones that stop still have the obsession it is just that the consequences are worse than the need to obsess. However, practical life experience has taught me that may be untrue. More apt would be the person who quits smoking and replaces with food. So when they stop stalking one, they focus on another or another outlet. Remember the mind is obsessing over them is actually a sexual attraction. The same way one can watch a pornographic video and get turned on, it is the same for the stalker every time they learn a new thing about their "object". Most of time, real world obstacles keep it from growing. They have to work, they have to eat, they have to socialize with others and all this adds up to time they cannot stalk. The ones who build their life around the victim though, these are the ones to be wary of.
And yes Stephen it is definitely much harder to assess these charges against someone who has a logical reason for interacting with you. These ones are usually caught because the others they talk to, they give the impression of a great friendship or romantic relationship exists. And when their fantasy world and reality collide, one will inevitably implode. Hopefully it is their fantasy and not the victims reality.
In the situation that I am aware of, the man targets lonely married women. Gets them into a compromising position. Records it. Blackmails them. Then begins the real torture of emasculating the husband. The husband finds himself having to deal with the realities of the incident, but this is nothing compared to the ongoing impotence of in-your-face taunting, day in and day out. In this case for almost a year.
And I've heard rumors that this situation was not the first time this happened --
Quote from: stephendare on June 30, 2013, 01:09:10 PM
Quote from: sheclown on June 30, 2013, 12:57:50 PM
In the situation that I am aware of, the man targets lonely married women. Gets them into a compromising position. Records it. Blackmails them. Then begins the real torture of emasculating the husband. The husband finds himself having to deal with the realities of the incident, but this is nothing compared to the ongoing impotence of in-your-face taunting, day in and day out. In this case for almost a year.
And I've heard rumors that this situation was not the first time this happened --
Its also true of the more serious ones that they are surrounded by enablers. People who have never seen this side to their personality (or perhaps refuse to see it) and who validate them in their every day lives.
With my more serious stalker, he was validated and supported by his parents until the horrific end of his life. Even in death they painted a portrait of their son as they wished him to be rather than as he was.
The stalker usually has developed an airtight narrative to explain the stalking to their enablers that makes sense. They then bully and blackmail the victim to establish the kinds of limits on the victim that the stalker will not recognize in their own life.
In my case, the blackmail and slander usually came out of being bisexual. There would be long stories, with details that were truthful but the main story would be gruesome and alarming and untrue. But the little details would check out and so the larger lie had the quality of being believable.
My fathers family was very buttoned down, upperclass and largely Baptist. It was extremely upsetting and humiliating for them to get phone calls about my relationships with other guys. The details were usually salacious, portraying me as a classical homosexual predator and usually involved illegal drugs, potential satan worship and the like.
When discussing the girl that he raped, tortured, tormented and stalked for all those years, she was always made to look like a malicious whore who had initiated all of the encounters and who was physically and emotionally abusing their child. The stories were airtight as long as the person hearing his version never spoke with his victims.
And that was the uncrossable boundaries for all of my stalker. You simply were not allowed into their own circle of trusts in a manner which they could not personally control. Their enabling nests were to be protected at all costs. Hence the blackmail, the retribution the escalations.
Its the one thing that I think most stalkers have in common.
Ah, so they have a weakness after all?
And by universal awareness you mean letting people know what is going on?
Quote from: stephendare on June 30, 2013, 01:31:51 PM
Quote from: sheclown on June 30, 2013, 01:26:54 PM
And by universal awareness you mean letting people know what is going on?
yeah. legal action gives you that of course.
But anyone who might be affected should know the hidden dynamics that way the victim is never in the position of having to defend themselves from the multiple third parties that the stalker will deploy into their lives.
Its really a tricky question. And Im not really an expert. I just have personal experiences.
Each of them is different, even though the basic thing they are doing is the same. Different tolerances, different enabling circles, different redlines.
Even with my Masters in Psychology I would give same advice as Stephen, solid logic.
So, here's a question.
Looking at the stalkers who live seemingly normal lives -- do their families know they are stalking?
Quote from: sheclown on June 30, 2013, 04:22:38 PM
So, here's a question.
Looking at the stalkers who live seemingly normal lives -- do their families know they are stalking?
Yes and this is where society fails, even after thousands of years of evolution. Every time someone deemed as an extreme sociopath, those close and most family admit they always thought that or saw the signs. The reasons for this are unknown though. Sometimes it is blamed on the family (usually mothers in the case of male offenders) are more apt to keep it quiet based on others judging them or perceiving them as a bad parent. More often than not, the reason they brush it aside or the keep it quiet is usually a key to what set them on that path originally.
Arguably the most famous case of this was Ann Rule, the famous author, whom had no doubt upon hearing that her coworker Ted Bundy was accused of sexual misconduct against young women. The person whom stalks is living in a fantasy dimension, separated from you and I, but still capable of functioning in reality. They are able to fool those whom they only interact with briefly. The waitress at a restaurant will remember the kind gentleman who complimented her and left a good tip, but not even think of him when someone is accosted in the parking lot. A police officer, who trained in skilled interrogation, can easily be fooled by a person with sociopathic tendencies. They are excellent at performing brief, in-depth character roles. That is their tactic, to flood your senses with so much good, you let your guard down. Then, you talk to your neighbor and they talk to their daughter and when she breaks down on the highway she doesn't fear him when he stops to render assistance.
However, those who spend time with the person, listening to the person, they start noticing little things that eventually add up. Times when they make plans and flake out repeatedly, catching them in lies to others, and the most telling of all, watching their eyes as they speak. The eyes tend to almost "glaze over" when a sociopath is referring to their fantasy world. It is a chemical reaction, they cannot control it, that is like entering a state of euphoria for them. Another thing the eyes tell is if you are lying. If you are talking to someone, when they are trying to access their memory the eyes will float to the right, when lying or creating a story, they'll go left. This is not scientific fact though because we can control it by focusing on something to our right to trick those looking.
It is not fully known when this is developed. Some believe it is in the DNA, others believe it is based on actions the child experienced during their developmental years and some insist it is an effect of chemical "mishaps" during puberty. The hardest thing is treating the person once diagnosed. They do not see anything wrong with it. It would be the equivalent of me telling you that from this point you may not walk on your legs, you have to crawl everywhere. Sure, it can be done, but only with persistent training and lifetime counseling. I would hope that in the next 20 years stalking becomes a more recognized crime because it does serve as a gateway to other crimes. Burglary, home invasion, arson, rape, murder are all charges that seem to be the escalation of a mere criminal mischief or "peeping Tom" (yes, those are stalkers too) charge. If only the families or friends stepped forward at that stage, the world would be a nicer place.
Thanks JayBird.
Perhaps we should write an article:
Ten Signs Your Loved One is a Stalker
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Number one surely would be: He has a disposable phone and it has unlimited text.
Yes, well that just shows how little I know about technology!!!!
So what are the ten signs then -- or one sign.
Okay, then.
#1) when you sign on to Metrojacksonville under your loved one's name, Spoofing software ads fill the space.
Quote from: stephendare on June 30, 2013, 07:51:31 PM
only from a computer that your loved one has already used, usually.
It may be easier to keep eyes on the eyes like JayBird says.
That's funny because I always find at least one ad on the MJ site that makes me think ... WTH?!!
But you bring up a serious point. Not so much online, but on phones. There are several apps out there that are 'stalker friendly'. When giving my demonstration, I take my iPhone and give it to someone in the crowd in return for theirs. I then ask them to count out 60 seconds on a watch or phone for me. At the end of the minute, I return it and take my phone back. Then I sign into my laptop, open up website, type in my password and ask them to send a friend a text. They do. I then read them the text they sent, turn my laptop and show them on a map where their 'phone' is standing, look through their contacts, search their notes and emails. All because I took their phone and quickly uploaded one of the many iPhone clone apps available. There are at least 20 last time I checked. For android phones, over 500. This is when I tell them relax, every time you sync your iPhone with a laptop, that program is deleted and has to be reinstalled. For android users, well you have to reset your phone. All jokes aside, that's a serious concern. If anyone is even kind of like me, my life is on my phone. It controls everything from the temperature and radio in my truck to turning off lights in my house to holding every possible secret I might possess. And at anytime, someone could be looking at my phone through their smartphone or laptop.
Quote from: stephendare on June 30, 2013, 07:31:24 PM
Quote from: sheclown on June 30, 2013, 07:18:15 PM
Thanks JayBird.
Perhaps we should write an article:
Ten Signs Your Loved One is a Stalker
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Number one surely would be: He has a disposable phone and it has unlimited text.
you know that its much easier to text from your laptop, using an sms app, right?
You don't have to have a disposable phone.
Sign #2, when you tell them what you did that day, thy finish your sentences with the answers. Or just say, "yup I know".
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NotNow...are you out there? What is Florida's policy toward stalking? Does it follow these national guidelines?
Florida has some pretty good stalking laws:
784.048 Stalking; definitions; penalties.—
(1) As used in this section, the term:
(a) "Harass" means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person which causes substantial emotional distress to that person and serves no legitimate purpose.
(b) "Course of conduct" means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short, which evidences a continuity of purpose. The term does not include constitutionally protected activity such as picketing or other organized protests.
(c) "Credible threat" means a verbal or nonverbal threat, or a combination of the two, including threats delivered by electronic communication or implied by a pattern of conduct, which places the person who is the target of the threat in reasonable fear for his or her safety or the safety of his or her family members or individuals closely associated with the person, and which is made with the apparent ability to carry out the threat to cause such harm. It is not necessary to prove that the person making the threat had the intent to actually carry out the threat. The present incarceration of the person making the threat is not a bar to prosecution under this section.
(d) "Cyberstalk" means to engage in a course of conduct to communicate, or to cause to be communicated, words, images, or language by or through the use of electronic mail or electronic communication, directed at a specific person, causing substantial emotional distress to that person and serving no legitimate purpose.
(2) A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(3) A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person and makes a credible threat to that person commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(4) A person who, after an injunction for protection against repeat violence, sexual violence, or dating violence pursuant to s. 784.046, or an injunction for protection against domestic violence pursuant to s. 741.30, or after any other court-imposed prohibition of conduct toward the subject person or that person's property, knowingly, willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(5) A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks a child under 16 years of age commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(6) A law enforcement officer may arrest, without a warrant, any person that he or she has probable cause to believe has violated this section.
(7) A person who, after having been sentenced for a violation of s. 794.011, s. 800.04, or s. 847.0135(5) and prohibited from contacting the victim of the offense under s. 921.244, willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks the victim commits the offense of aggravated stalking, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(8) The punishment imposed under this section shall run consecutive to any former sentence imposed for a conviction for any offense under s. 794.011, s. 800.04, or s. 847.0135(5).
(9)(a) The sentencing court shall consider, as a part of any sentence, issuing an order restraining the defendant from any contact with the victim, which may be valid for up to 10 years, as determined by the court. It is the intent of the Legislature that the length of any such order be based upon the seriousness of the facts before the court, the probability of future violations by the perpetrator, and the safety of the victim and his or her family members or individuals closely associated with the victim.
(b) The order may be issued by the court even if the defendant is sentenced to a state prison or a county jail or even if the imposition of the sentence is suspended and the defendant is placed on probation.
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Archived Statutes (Prior to 2010)
784.0485 Stalking; injunction; powers and duties of court and clerk; petition; notice and hearing; temporary injunction; issuance of injunction; statewide verification system; enforcement.—
(1) There is created a cause of action for an injunction for protection against stalking. For the purposes of injunctions for protection against stalking under this section, the offense of stalking shall include the offense of cyberstalking.
(a) A person who is the victim of stalking or the parent or legal guardian of a minor child who is living at home who seeks an injunction for protection against stalking on behalf of the minor child has standing in the circuit court to file a sworn petition for an injunction for protection against stalking.
(b) The cause of action for an injunction for protection may be sought regardless of whether any other cause of action is currently pending between the parties. However, the pendency of any such cause of action shall be alleged in the petition.
(c) The cause of action for an injunction may be sought by any affected person.
(d) The cause of action for an injunction does not require either party to be represented by an attorney.
(e) The court may not issue mutual orders of protection; however, the court is not precluded from issuing separate injunctions for protection against stalking if each party has complied with this section. Compliance with this section may not be waived.
(f) Notwithstanding chapter 47, a petition for an injunction for protection against stalking may be filed in the circuit where the petitioner currently or temporarily resides, where the respondent resides, or where the stalking occurred. There is no minimum requirement of residency to petition for an injunction for protection.
(2)(a) Notwithstanding any other law, the clerk of court may not assess a filing fee to file a petition for protection against stalking. However, subject to legislative appropriation, the clerk of the circuit court may, on a quarterly basis, submit to the Office of the State Courts Administrator a certified request for reimbursement for petitions for protection against stalking issued by the court, at the rate of $40 per petition. The request for reimbursement shall be submitted in the form and manner prescribed by the Office of the State Courts Administrator. From this reimbursement, the clerk shall pay any law enforcement agency serving the injunction the fee requested by the law enforcement agency; however, this fee may not exceed $20.
(b) A bond is not required by the court for the entry of an injunction.
(c)1. The clerk of the court shall assist petitioners in seeking both injunctions for protection against stalking and enforcement of a violation thereof as specified in this section.
2. All offices of the clerk of the court shall provide simplified petition forms for the injunction and any modifications to and the enforcement thereof, including instructions for completion.
3. The clerk of the court shall ensure the petitioner's privacy to the extent practicable while completing the forms for an injunction for protection against stalking.
4. The clerk of the court shall provide a petitioner with a minimum of two certified copies of the order of injunction, one of which is serviceable and will inform the petitioner of the process for service and enforcement.
5. The clerk of the court and appropriate staff in each county shall receive training in the effective assistance of petitioners as provided or approved by the Florida Association of Court Clerks and Comptrollers.
6. The clerk of the court in each county shall make available informational brochures on stalking when such a brochure is provided by the local certified domestic violence center or certified rape crisis center.
7. The clerk of the court in each county shall distribute a statewide uniform informational brochure to petitioners at the time of filing for an injunction for protection against stalking when such brochures become available. The brochure must include information about the effect of giving the court false information.
(3)(a) The sworn petition shall allege the existence of such stalking and shall include the specific facts and circumstances for which relief is sought.
(b) The sworn petition shall be in substantially the following form:
PETITION FOR INJUNCTION
FOR PROTECTION AGAINST STALKING
Before me, the undersigned authority, personally appeared Petitioner (Name) , who has been sworn and says that the following statements are true:
1. Petitioner resides at: (address)
(Petitioner may furnish the address to the court in a separate confidential filing if, for safety reasons, the petitioner requires the location of the current residence to be confidential.)
2. Respondent resides at: (last known address)
3. Respondent's last known place of employment: (name of business and address)
4. Physical description of respondent:
5. Race:
6. Sex:
7. Date of birth:
8. Height:
9. Weight:
10. Eye color:
11. Hair color:
12. Distinguishing marks or scars:
13. Aliases of respondent:
(c) The petitioner shall describe any other cause of action currently pending between the petitioner and respondent. The petitioner shall also describe any previous attempt by the petitioner to obtain an injunction for protection against stalking in this or any other circuit, and the result of that attempt. (Case numbers should be included, if available.)
(d) The petition must provide space for the petitioner to specifically allege that he or she is a victim of stalking because respondent has:
(Mark all sections that apply and describe in the spaces below the incidents of stalking specifying when and where they occurred, including, but not limited to, locations such as a home, school, or place of employment.)
Committed stalking.
Previously threatened, harassed, stalked, cyberstalked, or physically abused the petitioner.
Threatened to harm the petitioner or family members or individuals closely associated with the petitioner.
Intentionally injured or killed a family pet.
Used, or threatened to use, against the petitioner any weapons such as guns or knives.
A criminal history involving violence or the threat of violence, if known.
Another order of protection issued against him or her previously or from another jurisdiction, if known.
Destroyed personal property, including, but not limited to, telephones or other communication equipment, clothing, or other items belonging to the petitioner.
(e) The petitioner seeks an injunction:
(Mark appropriate section or sections.)
Immediately restraining the respondent from committing any acts of stalking.
Restraining the respondent from committing any acts of stalking.
Providing any terms the court deems necessary for the protection of a victim of stalking, including any injunctions or directives to law enforcement agencies.
(f) Every petition for an injunction against stalking must contain, directly above the signature line, a statement in all capital letters and bold type not smaller than the surrounding text, as follows:
I HAVE READ EVERY STATEMENT MADE IN THIS PETITION AND EACH STATEMENT IS TRUE AND CORRECT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE STATEMENTS MADE IN THIS PETITION ARE BEING MADE UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY, PUNISHABLE AS PROVIDED IN SECTION 837.02, FLORIDA STATUTES.
(initials)
(4) Upon the filing of the petition, the court shall set a hearing to be held at the earliest possible time. The respondent shall be personally served with a copy of the petition, notice of hearing, and temporary injunction, if any, before the hearing.
(5)(a) If it appears to the court that stalking exists, the court may grant a temporary injunction ex parte, pending a full hearing, and may grant such relief as the court deems proper, including an injunction restraining the respondent from committing any act of stalking.
(b) In a hearing ex parte for the purpose of obtaining such ex parte temporary injunction, evidence other than verified pleadings or affidavits may not be used as evidence, unless the respondent appears at the hearing or has received reasonable notice of the hearing. A denial of a petition for an ex parte injunction shall be by written order noting the legal grounds for denial. If the only ground for denial is no appearance of an immediate and present danger of stalking, the court shall set a full hearing on the petition for injunction with notice at the earliest possible time. This paragraph does not affect a petitioner's right to promptly amend any petition, or otherwise be heard in person on any petition consistent with the Florida Rules of Civil Procedure.
(c) Any such ex parte temporary injunction is effective for a fixed period not to exceed 15 days. A full hearing, as provided in this section, shall be set for a date no later than the date when the temporary injunction ceases to be effective. The court may grant a continuance of the hearing before or during a hearing for good cause shown by any party, which shall include a continuance to obtain service of process. An injunction shall be extended if necessary to remain in full force and effect during any period of continuance.
(6)(a) Upon notice and hearing, when it appears to the court that the petitioner is the victim of stalking, the court may grant such relief as the court deems proper, including an injunction:
1. Restraining the respondent from committing any act of stalking.
2. Ordering the respondent to participate in treatment, intervention, or counseling services to be paid for by the respondent.
3. Referring a petitioner to appropriate services. The court may provide the petitioner with a list of certified domestic violence centers, certified rape crisis centers, and other appropriate referrals in the circuit which the petitioner may contact.
4. Ordering such other relief as the court deems necessary for the protection of a victim of stalking, including injunctions or directives to law enforcement agencies, as provided in this section.
(b) The terms of an injunction restraining the respondent under subparagraph (a)1. or ordering other relief for the protection of the victim under subparagraph (a)4. shall remain in effect until modified or dissolved. Either party may move at any time to modify or dissolve the injunction. Specific allegations are not required. Such relief may be granted in addition to other civil or criminal remedies.
(c) A temporary or final judgment on injunction for protection against stalking entered pursuant to this section shall, on its face, indicate:
1. That the injunction is valid and enforceable in all counties of this state.
2. That law enforcement officers may use their arrest powers pursuant to s. 901.15(6) to enforce the terms of the injunction.
3. That the court has jurisdiction over the parties and matter under the laws of this state and that reasonable notice and opportunity to be heard was given to the person against whom the order is sought sufficient to protect that person's right to due process.
4. The date that the respondent was served with the temporary or final order, if obtainable.
(d) The fact that a separate order of protection is granted to each opposing party is not legally sufficient to deny any remedy to either party or to prove that the parties are equally at fault or equally endangered.
(e) A final judgment on an injunction for protection against stalking entered pursuant to this section must, on its face, provide that it is a violation of s. 790.233 and a misdemeanor of the first degree for the respondent to have in his or her care, custody, possession, or control any firearm or ammunition.
(f) All proceedings under this subsection shall be recorded. Recording may be by electronic means as provided by the Rules of Judicial Administration.
(7) The court shall allow an advocate from a state attorney's office, a law enforcement agency, a certified rape crisis center, or a certified domestic violence center who is registered under s. 39.905 to be present with the petitioner or respondent during any court proceedings or hearings related to the injunction for protection if the petitioner or respondent has made such a request and the advocate is able to be present.
(8)(a)1. The clerk of the court shall furnish a copy of the petition, notice of hearing, and temporary injunction, if any, to the sheriff or a law enforcement agency of the county where the respondent resides or can be found, who shall serve it upon the respondent as soon thereafter as possible on any day of the week and at any time of the day or night. When requested by the sheriff, the clerk of the court may transmit a facsimile copy of an injunction that has been certified by the clerk of the court, and this facsimile copy may be served in the same manner as a certified copy. Upon receiving a facsimile copy, the sheriff must verify receipt with the sender before attempting to serve it on the respondent. In addition, if the sheriff is in possession of an injunction for protection that has been certified by the clerk of the court, the sheriff may transmit a facsimile copy of that injunction to a law enforcement officer who shall serve it in the same manner as a certified copy. The clerk of the court shall furnish to the sheriff such information concerning the respondent's physical description and location as is required by the Department of Law Enforcement to comply with the verification procedures set forth in this section. Notwithstanding any other law, the chief judge of each circuit, in consultation with the appropriate sheriff, may authorize a law enforcement agency within the jurisdiction to effect service. A law enforcement agency serving injunctions pursuant to this section shall use service and verification procedures consistent with those of the sheriff.
2. If an injunction is issued and the petitioner requests the assistance of a law enforcement agency, the court may order that an officer from the appropriate law enforcement agency accompany the petitioner to assist in the execution or service of the injunction. A law enforcement officer shall accept a copy of an injunction for protection against stalking, certified by the clerk of the court, from the petitioner and immediately serve it upon a respondent who has been located but not yet served.
3. An order issued, changed, continued, extended, or vacated subsequent to the original service of documents enumerated under subparagraph 1. shall be certified by the clerk of the court and delivered to the parties at the time of the entry of the order. The parties may acknowledge receipt of such order in writing on the face of the original order. If a party fails or refuses to acknowledge the receipt of a certified copy of an order, the clerk shall note on the original order that service was effected. If delivery at the hearing is not possible, the clerk shall mail certified copies of the order to the parties at the last known address of each party. Service by mail is complete upon mailing. When an order is served pursuant to this subsection, the clerk shall prepare a written certification to be placed in the court file specifying the time, date, and method of service and shall notify the sheriff.
4. If the respondent has been served previously with a temporary injunction and has failed to appear at the initial hearing on the temporary injunction, any subsequent petition for injunction seeking an extension of time may be served on the respondent by the clerk of the court by certified mail in lieu of personal service by a law enforcement officer.
(b)1. Within 24 hours after the court issues an injunction for protection against stalking or changes, continues, extends, or vacates an injunction for protection against stalking, the clerk of the court must forward a certified copy of the injunction for service to the sheriff having jurisdiction over the residence of the petitioner. The injunction must be served in accordance with this subsection.
2. Within 24 hours after service of process of an injunction for protection against stalking upon a respondent, the law enforcement officer must forward the written proof of service of process to the sheriff having jurisdiction over the residence of the petitioner.
3. Within 24 hours after the sheriff receives a certified copy of the injunction for protection against stalking, the sheriff must make information relating to the injunction available to other law enforcement agencies by electronically transmitting such information to the Department of Law Enforcement.
4. Within 24 hours after the sheriff or other law enforcement officer has made service upon the respondent and the sheriff has been so notified, the sheriff must make information relating to the service available to other law enforcement agencies by electronically transmitting such information to the Department of Law Enforcement.
5. Within 24 hours after an injunction for protection against stalking is vacated, terminated, or otherwise rendered no longer effective by ruling of the court, the clerk of the court must notify the sheriff receiving original notification of the injunction as provided in subparagraph 2. That agency shall, within 24 hours after receiving such notification from the clerk of the court, notify the Department of Law Enforcement of such action of the court.
(9)(a) The court may enforce a violation of an injunction for protection against stalking through a civil or criminal contempt proceeding, or the state attorney may prosecute it as a criminal violation under s. 784.0487. Any assessments or fines ordered by the court enforcing such an injunction shall be collected by the clerk of the court and transferred on a monthly basis to the State Treasury for deposit into the Domestic Violence Trust Fund.
(b) If the respondent is arrested by a law enforcement officer under s. 901.15(6) or for a violation of s. 784.0487, the respondent shall be held in custody until brought before the court as expeditiously as possible for the purpose of enforcing the injunction and for admittance to bail in accordance with chapter 903 and the applicable rules of criminal procedure, pending a hearing.
(10) The petitioner or the respondent may move the court to modify or dissolve an injunction at any time.
History.—s. 3, ch. 2012-153.
784.0487 Violation of an injunction for protection against stalking or cyberstalking.—
(1) If the injunction for protection against stalking or cyberstalking has been violated and the respondent has not been arrested, the petitioner may contact the clerk of the circuit court of the county in which the violation is alleged to have occurred. The clerk shall assist the petitioner in preparing an affidavit in support of reporting the violation or directing the petitioner to the office operated by the court that has been designated by the chief judge of that circuit as the central intake point for violations of injunctions for protection where the petitioner can receive assistance in the preparation of the affidavit in support of the violation.
(2) The affidavit shall be immediately forwarded by the office assisting the petitioner to the state attorney of that circuit and to such judge as the chief judge determines to be the recipient of affidavits of violations of an injunction. If the affidavit alleges that a crime has been committed, the office assisting the petitioner shall also forward a copy of the petitioner's affidavit to the appropriate law enforcement agency for investigation. No later than 20 days after receiving the initial report, the local law enforcement agency shall complete its investigation and forward a report to the state attorney. The policy adopted by the state attorney in each circuit under s. 741.2901(2) shall include a policy regarding intake of alleged violations of injunctions for protection against stalking or cyberstalking under this section. The intake shall be supervised by a state attorney who has been designated and assigned to handle stalking or cyberstalking cases. The state attorney shall determine within 30 working days whether his or her office will file criminal charges or prepare a motion for an order to show cause as to why the respondent should not be held in criminal contempt, or prepare both as alternative findings, or file notice that the case remains under investigation or is pending subject to some other action.
(3) If the court has knowledge that the petitioner or another person is in immediate danger if the court does not act before the decision of the state attorney to proceed, the court shall immediately issue an order of appointment of the state attorney to file a motion for an order to show cause as to why the respondent should not be held in contempt. If the court does not issue an order of appointment of the state attorney, it shall immediately notify the state attorney that the court is proceeding to enforce the violation through criminal contempt.
(4) A person who willfully violates an injunction for protection against stalking or cyberstalking issued pursuant to s. 784.0485, or a foreign protection order accorded full faith and credit pursuant to s. 741.315, by:
(a) Going to, or being within 500 feet of, the petitioner's residence, school, place of employment, or a specified place frequented regularly by the petitioner and any named family members or individuals closely associated with the petitioner;
(b) Committing an act of stalking against the petitioner;
(c) Committing any other violation of the injunction through an intentional unlawful threat, word, or act to do violence to the petitioner;
(d) Telephoning, contacting, or otherwise communicating with the petitioner, directly or indirectly, unless the injunction specifically allows indirect contact through a third party;
(e) Knowingly and intentionally coming within 100 feet of the petitioner's motor vehicle, whether or not that vehicle is occupied;
(f) Defacing or destroying the petitioner's personal property, including the petitioner's motor vehicle; or
(g) Refusing to surrender firearms or ammunition if ordered to do so by the court,
commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(5) A person who suffers an injury or loss as a result of a violation of an injunction for protection against stalking or cyberstalking may be awarded economic damages for that injury or loss by the court issuing the injunction. Damages include costs and attorney fees for enforcement of the injunction.
History.—s. 4, ch. 2012-153.
The points in the video are not national standards, but is a good guide for such investigations. I am not an expert in this area, but it seems that part of the problem on the police side is the required length of the investigation along with the varying locations and modes of harrassment. This is an area where persistence is required normally by the victim. The victim should also familiarize himself/herself with the laws of the state in which they live. In Florida as you can see, we can take these individual, seemingly harmless incidents and tie them together. An Injuction for Protection will be issued. But as I have cautioned many people, an Injuction is just a piece of paper, it will not stop bullets. We will prosecute in Florida for violations of Injuctions and the State Attorneys Office will actively pursue these...the fact is that violation is simply a first degree misdemeanor.
As a personal bit of advice, self defense is an important concept if you are in the position of victim in these cases. I am a firm believer in the possession and carry of "pepper spray". This is a non lethal agent that will normally allow one to at least escape immediate danger. It is legal in Florida and requires only minimal training. If you are comfortable with other weapons including deadly force, then a victim of such a crime should investigate what options they have available in their own jurisdictions. This is the other half of the currently raging debate about self defense laws.
The simple fact is that the aggressor in these cases will most likely NOT pick a time and place that a police officer is going to be present. We all have some responsibility for our own defense. Certainly, follow all of the advice in the video. Follow the law as shown in my postings. Get an Injuction for Protection if you qualify. But..protect yourself as well. Be smart. Be aware of your surroundings. Be prepared to defend yourself if someone has threatened you.
I hope this answers at least some of your questions sheclown. Let me know if I have failed to answer something that you were looking for.
Thank you NotNow.
This is an honest and thorough response.
I guess its my turn!
Just a question Stephen. Is this only happening by phone or is the individual actually being physically followed?
And they know who the individual is for sure?
In addition to NotNow's comments, here is another resource that provides some good statistics and advice to those being victimized by stalkers: http://www.victimsofcrime.org/our-programs/stalking-resource-center
Sounds like there are quite a few of us that have had to deal with this dangerous nonsense. Stalkers are the most dangerous type of bully.
I won't go into my decades-long story that would likely serve to just thrill my stalker to read, but to all that's been said, I would add what finally worked for me:
1. Do not reply, talk to, look at or in any way acknowlege the presence of the stalker but remove yourself from his or her vicinity.
2. Meticulously document all encounters. Save the e-mails and texts, be sure to make copies of any recordings, if it just a sighting, then write down the date, time, place and any behaviors as soon as possible.
3. Contact law enforcement with each encounter. Follow up with the state attorney if advised to do so.
4. Be prepared for anything; these are not nice or well people. It's your choice whether to be armed wth the weapon of your choice, but whatever it is, be trained and practiced in its use.
5. Don't do stupid stuff, like go on a walk down a deserted alley while intoxicated at two in the morning in the stalker's neighborhood. Plan to have a witness with you all the time when you are out and about. Be sure you let them know what is going on, too.
Good luck. It is an awful thing and all about their control. Don't give it to them.
Thank you Scarlettjax.
I'm sure this happens more than we think.
I've worked as a waitress for the last few years so you meet a slough of characters. One of these characters changed my life forever. He was a great tipper, charming constantly asking me out. He talked about all the places he travels and he wanted me to come along. One day along with a tip he left an envelope with a note and his phone. The envelope contained booking for a two day stay at a resort. On advice from my boss he said to call him and return the envelope. I called him and we decided to meet at a coffee shop to hand over the envelope and to tell him once and for all that I am not interested. He said I'm a fool for not going out with him. This angered me. The truth is I said, you're old enough to be my dad and you aren't my type I left the envelope on the table and left. Not an hour passed when I started getting texts. I didn't respond, but they kept coming. They were vulgar and obscene. I started getting harassing calls at work. I decided to go to JSO and file a report. I was told to change my phone number. Also they didn't have enough to make an arrest and to keep documenting. I had to quit my job, the thought of seeing him makes me sick. I haven't received any calls in a while. However, my friends and family have had strange things happen. My parents got packages they didn't order, certify mail. It's difficult to proof he's the culprit. I feared for my safety. The good thing is I took self defense classes, how to handle weapons and gained lots of confidence. I visited women's shelters who were abused by their spouses and I refused to become a statistic.
QuoteThe good thing is I took self defense classes, how to handle weapons and gained lots of confidence. I visited women's shelters who were abused by their spouses and I refused to become a statistic.
Good Job Anabell! Self reliant and confident are admirable traits! 8)
Thank you for sharing your story. We care about you and your situation. Don't let him make you feel all alone
You need to file a petition for an injunction for protection and have the court issue a no-contact order. It sounds to me as though you have more than enough to get one. If he contacts you after that, the police have no choice but to arrest him.
There is a specific injunction against stalking and the burden of proof is easier to meet than the regular restraining order against an abusive partner. You may want to read up on it before you go to the courthouse to file for an injunction because the clerks you'll have to deal with are not always very cooperative or knowledgeable.
http://www.womenslaw.org/laws_state_type.php?id=15038&state_code=FL#content-15124
Quote from: sheclown on June 30, 2013, 04:22:38 PM
So, here's a question.
Looking at the stalkers who live seemingly normal lives -- do their families know they are stalking?
I don't think families know or want to know. For example take any criminal activity where the bad one is killed. The first thing you see on the TV is the family telling you how wonderful the criminal was. They ignore the bad things.
Quote from: sheclown on January 22, 2014, 08:33:48 AM
There is a specific injunction against stalking and the burden of proof is easier to meet than the regular restraining order against an abusive partner. You may want to read up on it before you go to the courthouse to file for an injunction because the clerks you'll have to deal with are not always very cooperative or knowledgeable.
http://www.womenslaw.org/laws_state_type.php?id=15038&state_code=FL#content-15124
Or get a lawyer I guess is the other thing I'd tell her.
QuoteMy parents got packages they didn't order, certify mail. It's difficult to proof he's the culprit. I feared for my safety. The good thing is I took self defense classes, how to handle weapons and gained lots of confidence. I visited women's shelters who were abused by their spouses and I refused to become a statistic.
Wow, amazing story. Post the picture on FB, Nextdoor, Social Media and let others know about your story. All you can do is let others know of this creep, because odds are he is going to do it again, since no one seems to know how to stop him. I'd want to know who he is, for sure. I'd plaster his face on every street pole in Riverside Avondale and make others aware of the crazy SOB!
Crazy idea, but get some training on how to defend yourself as well, because you never know and you can become a great advocate for others. Thanks for sharing!
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on January 22, 2014, 09:42:31 AM
Quote from: sheclown on January 22, 2014, 08:33:48 AM
There is a specific injunction against stalking and the burden of proof is easier to meet than the regular restraining order against an abusive partner. You may want to read up on it before you go to the courthouse to file for an injunction because the clerks you'll have to deal with are not always very cooperative or knowledgeable.
http://www.womenslaw.org/laws_state_type.php?id=15038&state_code=FL#content-15124
Or get a lawyer I guess is the other thing I'd tell her.
Absolutely getting a lawyer.
Yes Stephen. Correct
Someone please contact me regarding whoever else got harassed, and what you know. The more evidence the better obviously. It would mean the world to the victim.
Quote from: stephendare on February 24, 2014, 05:23:27 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on February 24, 2014, 05:21:05 PM
Someone please contact me regarding whoever else got harassed, and what you know. The more evidence the better obviously. It would mean the world to the victim.
Chris are you the attorney handling the victim? Whats happening with the case? What is the next step?
Yes I am. She has filed for an injunction for protection, hearing is Thursday. We have plan b but hopefully it won't get that far.