Another Walmart for the Westside?(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/985919314_m67Xj-M.jpg)
Over the last decade, more than $200 million has been spent to upgrade Collins Road to relieve congestion on Blanding and Argyle Forest Boulevards. Soon, it will even have its own interchange with Interstate 295. However, that interchange won't be alone. It appears that Fort Lauderdale-based
Gatlin Development will be bringing a new Walmart Supercenter along with it. Here is a look at Gatlin's proposed plans.
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http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-jun-another-walmart-for-the-westside
Growth is good....just like greed
I can't wait until 200 million is spent on a new Morse Avenue interchange to relieve traffic from Collins Road.
I've heard several times that Costco will build #2 in that area as well...
I believe the closest Wal-Mart from there is across the Buckman Bridge on San Jose.
I beleive Collins Road is only 4 lanes from Blanding to Rampart. The rest is two lanes. What a terrible traffic nightmare I see for that neighborhood. Everyone will try to shortcut Bandingl. Add to that a monster Walmart, yikes.
Where is there room for a Costco?
Quote from: I-10east on June 10, 2013, 08:00:57 AM
I believe the closest Wal-Mart from there is across the Buckman Bridge on San Jose.
No way. There is one likes two exits down at 103rd. Also a Super Center.
Costco would be awesome. We so badly need another one.
Quote from: Dapperdan on June 10, 2013, 08:06:21 AM
No way. There is one likes two exits down at 103rd. Also a Super Center.
My bad, I was WAY off. I started to say 103rd. I looked at google maps like, when was I thinking San Jose is like double the distance LOL. It will be interesting to see if the Collins Road locale will stay open 24 hours like on San Jose, or will it have the new shortened hours like 103rd.
Slightly off topic, Is anyone going to try any of the Walmart neighborhood stores? I think they open this week. The only one I know of is in Flemming Island. I think there is another in Mandarin somewhere. I have never been to one. Supposedly this is them trying to eat into the Publix market share. I am not sure if that will work or not.
Quote from: blizz01 on June 09, 2013, 11:23:15 PM
I've heard several times that Costco will build #2 in that area as well...
That would be surprising.
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2013/04/02/four-walmart-neighborhood-markets.html (http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2013/04/02/four-walmart-neighborhood-markets.html)
QuoteThe new stores will be at:
10550 Old St. Augustine Road, Jacksonville
8011 Merrill Road, Jacksonville
2570 County Road 220, Middleburg
445 State Road 13, Fruit Cove
I would've loved one instead of the crappy Save-A-Lot that replaced the Food Lion by my house, or hell even a Rowe's IGA.
Quote from: I-10east on June 10, 2013, 08:22:37 AM
Quote from: Dapperdan on June 10, 2013, 08:06:21 AM
No way. There is one likes two exits down at 103rd. Also a Super Center.
My bad, I was WAY off. I started to say 103rd. I looked at google maps like, when was I thinking San Jose is like double the distance LOL. It will be interesting to see if the Collins Road locale will stay open 24 hours like on San Jose, or will it have the new shortened hours like 103rd.
There's also another one down on Blanding near College Drive. Guess you can never have too many WalMarts.
I've heard the Costco rumor also, but never anything substantiating it. Anyone know if this is the case and if so do they have anything backing the claim up?
I live in the area, and we usually go to the Walmart on Brannanfield. It is farther as the crow flies but rural road most of the way so it is faster getting there. Plus it is a much newer and cleaner store.
Costco is considering opening up a 150,000 square foot store across the street. However, it hinges on COJ moving forward with building a $3.9 million extension of Parramore Road through the shopping center site, so they'll have access to Argyle Forest and Blanding Boulevards via Youngerman Circle. Councilman Love states that the store would generate $2 million annually in sales and property taxes.
http://members.jacksonville.com/business/premium-business/2013-09-23/story/costco-eyes-westside-second-jacksonville-store-location
Hi Ennis,
When complete, will Parramore pop out immediately west of the retention pond next to Keith Pierson TOYOTA?
Also, wouldn't the westward/SW continuation of Youngerman to Argyle Blvd as a 4-5 lane section be included in that package price in order to accomodate all parties?
I still can't picture a Costco going there
What Councilman Love did not explain is that that $2 million in sales tax revenue comes at the expense of all the other stores in the area losing sales to Costco. The good people of the Westside aren't suddenly going to discover money trees in their yards to create new and unique purchases at the new Costco.
In terms of walkability, do we want to foster small local businesses or large box retail.
Good, we so badly need another Costco. A city our size with only one is ridiculos. The crowds at the SS location are out of control on the weekends.
Quote from: fsujax on September 24, 2013, 09:37:55 AM
Good, we so badly need another Costco. A city our size with only one is ridiculos. The crowds at the SS location are out of control on the weekends.
so join BJs instead...they have 3
Icarus is right. Love is not so sharp.
When evaluating public projects, incremental sales tax revenue is typically a transfer from one taxpayer to another or from one retailer to another. If the Costco stimulates additional spending apart from the business it steals from Publix, Wal-Mart, Target, etc., then sales tax related to that spending is merely a transfer of financial resources within the community. If people are coming from Starke or Palatka to the store, bringing new tax flows into Jacksonville, then that's a net economic benefit (assuming sales tax revenues in Jacksonville stay in Jacksonville ... for all I know, they could wind up in Miami).
Love also needs to be more careful about assigning the property taxes to the Costco project. The store apparently is part of a larger retail complex. If they don't lure Costco to the place, one of their competitors might just fill the void, providing Duval with the same slug of additional property tax flows.
"Love said based on the average sales of a Costco store and property taxes generated from it, a new store would generate $2 million a year in sales and property taxes annually.
"If you put up $3.9 million [for the road] to get back $2 million every year, I would say financially it's a good deal," Love said. "It will pay for itself."
Eh, I wouldn't expect some dramatic drop off in profits at the area Publix, Target etc just because CostCo locates to Collins. Publix and Target are doing fine at the STJC. There's plenty of money to go around.
According to jacksonville.com (members only content) the Westside Costco is 'up in the air'.
^It's because the city is seeking federal funding to pay for the construction of the street. They aren't sure if Costco is willing to sit around and wait or look for a location at another Westside site.
Plans are in work for a Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market on Wilson & Lane in the old Food Lion building. I sorta had an inkling that was gonna happen; I think that would be great for that area, but I'm sure that most will disagree. The surrounding supermarkets will be fine IMO (W/D on Wilson, 103rd Wal-Mart etc); They were fine when Food Lion was there, so I see no difference. Anytime an empty building is put to use, to me that's a good thing.
www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=540890
I'm at the TPO meeting and this project is being discussed. The CAC does not want this road project and asked for it to be deleted from the TRIP Eligible Project funding list. It seems like the TPO and FDOT don't agree. Costco won't build their store without it. The TPO and FDOT both believe this project will help alleviate congestion on Blanding.
TPO (actually the TRIP agency in this case) just voted to keep Parramore Rd on their list. CAC = Citizens Advisory Committee.
QuoteWal-Mart Neighborhood Market
This is not a 100,000 square foot shopping center. Its a neighborhood grocery store. Lane and Wilson could use a replacement to the food lion, in a land of food deserts. Its a zero sum issue, as they are replacing a like with a like item in the area, but hey, if the residents want to walk down to Wilson and Blanding for the Dirty Dixie or the Family Dollar down Wilson, amen to them.
I enjoy Walmart, to me it is like going to a carnival...
The parking lot at the WalMart Market (grocery) that replaced Food Lion is usually full. Compared to empty it was after FL moved out.
Quote from: thelakelander on December 12, 2013, 10:42:32 AM
TPO (actually the TRIP agency in this case) just voted to keep Parramore Rd on their list. CAC = Citizens Advisory Committee.
PLease, again I beg you to reveal the possible alignment of the extension..?
Quote from: mtraininjax on December 13, 2013, 08:55:06 AM
QuoteWal-Mart Neighborhood Market
This is not a 100,000 square foot shopping center. Its a neighborhood grocery store.
I'm not sure what I said wrong....
(http://members.jacksonville.com/sites/default/files/Parramore.JPG)
http://jacksonville.com/news/politics/2013-07-12/story/westside-landowner-waiting-construction-voters-approved-2000-better
QuoteI'm not sure what I said wrong....
You did not say anything wrong. Wal-Mart has a new concept of neighborhood grocery stores, the colors are green - jab at Publix - and much smaller footprints that the Wal-Mart Super Stores where they feature the crap, er, family goods on one side and grocery on the other.
I'd like to see more of the neighborhood stores, personally.
Walmart is moving forward now.
QuoteNew Walmart Supercenter for Jacksonville's Westside moving forward
The new Walmart Supercenter for Jacksonville's Westside appears to be moving forward.
The current owner of the site, Thomas Dumas, has applied for a city building permit for a $7.8 million, 194,600-square-foot retail building. The site is at 7075 Collins Road, near the Interstate 295 interchange.
full article: http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2014/05/20/new-walmart-supercenter-for-jacksonvilles-westside.html
^ see....that new interchange (infrastructure spending) is already yielding economic development returns :)
Traffic will be a nightmare over there. Collins is only two lanes at that point. Have fun with that.
If the gas tax is extended, I believe Collins is one of the road expansion projects that will be funded by it.
Quote from: Dapperdan on May 21, 2014, 09:02:52 AM
Traffic will be a nightmare over there. Collins is only two lanes at that point. Have fun with that.
It's four once you get past Rampart.