Aundra Wallace is talking. I walked in 15 minutes late and he was in the middle of his presentation.
He's seated at a table facing the board. No slideshows. So far, he listing a lot "we gottas".
Only two guys. Maher dropped out of the race earlier this week.
Wallace says:
* perception problem: downtown is not crime ridden.
* work with non-profits
* aggressive marketing campaign. We have to tell our story. That's what we did in detroit. We told our story we didn't let the media tell it.
* Getting the businesses down here that people need.
* He's made detroit better he can make Jacksonville better.
* Programs/incentives for people who buy homes in and around downtown.
* In Detroit they bought a large amount of abandoned historic buildings. We can do that here and essentially ordain a type of district...tech, arts...etc.
Wallace pretty much states Detroit revitalization work driven by Dan Gilbert's pocketbook. We need a sugar daddy for DTJax.
Pretty much says it would help to incentivize homebuyers for downtown. I agree that you can grow DT's population by paying people to live in it. Wallace is right. This strategy has worked for Detroit.
We're in Q&A:
1) how would you bring private investors to invest in the urban core?
a) work with investors what kind of rate of return they need.
b) once we know that we can figure out the rent side and we may need to incentivize them.
c) marketing to home buyers also assures investors that they will have buyers/renters
d) we let investors know that we understand that time is money for them and we'll work with them to ensure their success.
2) Regarding the Berkman Plaza II (?). The one that stopped mid-construction. How can we fix that? Also, the old city hall seems to be perfect for residential, how do we get those properties online? If we can then we should.
a) First, we have to check with the property holders/financers. Can we afford to buy it and renovate it?
b) City hall: maybe there is the opportunity hotel/residential or both...I missed his point.
The DIA has to create a new CRA plan. Wallace's experience with Florida CRAs includes making a master plan for a development in a CRA in Homestead, FL.
Wallace Q&A continued:
1) How would you drive a CRA plan?
a: it needs to be market driven.
2) We don't have "pre-packaged" deals to place us on the national market place. How long will it take you to make a pre-packaged deal?
a: our first step is developing a CRA plan. The first 90 days is driven on the CRA plan. I don't want to miss the bus on getting on the capital markets. The most important piece is what is the actual market data saying about our city. I can't go to the capital with a theory and a belief i need an actual number.
Q&A with Wallace:
q: how would you develop more positiveness for downtown for restaurants and entertainment?
a: we need to do an incredible push for people who work downtown to stay downtown. I got to have a reason for that person to not get into their cars at 5. We're going to have change some transportation routes. If I give "you" the product you'll come to it.
q: it sounds like in certain cases you would close the book on incentivizes for restaurants and businesses?
a: let's define incentive. I believe incentivizing developers so they can incentivize the right retailer.
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Pretty much says it would help to incentivize homebuyers for downtown. I agree that you can grow DT's population by paying people to live in it. Wallace is right. This strategy has worked for Detroit.
I've never been convinced of this. Downtown Detroit presumably has a substantial quantity of empty residential buildings for newcomers to move to. Downtown Jax doesn't. The demand for downtown living in Jax is already there, but there are too few places for them to go.
Jim Bailey asks how to get suburbanites to buy into downtown being important. Wallace responds by pointing out that Jags games will showcase DT. Are we comfortable with that? Also talks about DT being a donor neighborhood, in terms of funding.
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Quote from: thelakelander on June 06, 2013, 09:31:03 AM
Pretty much says it would help to incentivize homebuyers for downtown. I agree that you can grow DT's population by paying people to live in it. Wallace is right. This strategy has worked for Detroit.
I've never been convinced of this. Downtown Detroit presumably has a substantial quantity of empty residential buildings for newcomers to move to. Downtown Jax doesn't. The demand for downtown living in Jax is already there, but there are too few places for them to go.
Not really. They've torn down most of their building stock. They just have a private sector putting a lot of cash into in incentivizing every aspect of the market, including people they want to live there.
Q&A with Wallace:
q: a few years ago a poll said that 80+% of people don't care about downtown. Why is downtown important to every single Jacksonville resident?
a: Downtown will be on the stage for every single football game. Are you comfortable with the media perception of your downtown? We need to become a revenue producing neighborhood to make sure that other neighborhoods don't feel like they are subsidizing downtown.
q: What's your biggest worry about this position?
a: he's worried that because he is incredibly methodical that the board/people will complain that he's not moving fast enough or producing enough flash. He starts from the finish line and moves backwards
q: what are your thoughts on fixed transit connecting downtown to surrounding successful neighborhoods?
a: most successful cores have a strong transit system. Tying those neighborhoods together is critical. Will work with JTA to develop a plan.
Tony Allegretti asked for Wallace's thoughts on transit. He mentions it's critical to tie DT with surrounding neighborhoods with fixed transit. Mentions Detroit's streetcar project that will tie DT with Midtown Detroit. Wants to work with JTA.
Wallace wants entertainment venues on the Shipyards site but wants to leave that to the market and community to decide.
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Pretty much says it would help to incentivize homebuyers for downtown. I agree that you can grow DT's population by paying people to live in it. Wallace is right. This strategy has worked for Detroit.
I've never been convinced of this. Downtown Detroit presumably has a substantial quantity of empty residential buildings for newcomers to move to. Downtown Jax doesn't. The demand for downtown living in Jax is already there, but there are too few places for them to go.
Not really. They've torn down most of their building stock. They just have a private sector putting a lot of cash into in incentivizing every aspect of the market, including people they want to live there.
I'm willing to bet they have more than Jax does, which is essentially 0 that isn't already full. Housing in downtown Jax isn't a demand issue, it's a supply issue. Paying people to live there won't do anything unless there's somewhere for them to go.
Quote from: thelakelander on June 06, 2013, 09:26:20 AM
Wallace pretty much states Detroit revitalization work driven by Dan Gilbert's pocketbook. We need a sugar daddy for DTJax.
Downtown Jax reminds me of Mark McGuire's younger brother Jay... who played several times at the old Wolfson Park while toiling in the minors virtually his entire career. Jay would come up to bat, biceps bulging and sweating out whatever steroids he just shot up in the dugout before the game.
A big hush would come over the crowd. People would whisper, 'That's Mark McGuire's brother, he'll knock one out over left field and hit a car on the Matthews Bridge.' Then the allmighty roid king would strike would swinging like a mad man.
It didn't work out so well for Jay's career... and it sure as hell hasn't worked for DT Jax.
Q&A with Wallace:
q: what is your management style?
a: it's very participatory. Everyone has a stake in the success of the department and goals. he's not a micro manager but he's "tenacious" on holding people accountable. From the board stand point: it's open and participatory. He's thick skinned and can handle open honest opinions. He will be honest and open and wants the same from the board.
q: what do you envision for the shipyard property?
a: entertainment venues would be great. it's one of the largest properties that city actually owns - 20 plus acres. It could be a great place for water activities...but I'm going to let the private sector provide input.
q: how can we bring colleges and specifically the art institute downtown? how can we bring medical facilities downtown?
a: you have to sell to universities on the benefits of being downtown and being a part of the actual communities. his experience that many times the colleges are not concerned with the community outside of their campus. Then you have to find out who is their real estate person on their staff. That is the person that will sell the president to invest downtown. The real estate person has to see the benefit with hard numbers.
Interview over. Board thanks Wallace for his time.
Quote from: thelakelander on June 06, 2013, 09:31:03 AM
Pretty much says it would help to incentivize homebuyers for downtown. I agree that you can grow DT's population by paying people to live in it. Wallace is right. This strategy has worked for Detroit.
Detroit's 15x15 program has worked pretty well thus far.
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Quote from: thelakelander on June 06, 2013, 09:26:20 AM
Wallace pretty much states Detroit revitalization work driven by Dan Gilbert's pocketbook. We need a sugar daddy for DTJax.
Downtown Jax reminds me of Mark McGuire's younger brother Jay... who played several times at the old Wolfson Park while toiling in the minors virtually his entire career. Jay would come up to bat, biceps bulging and sweating out whatever steroids he just shot up in the dugout before the game.
A big hush would come over the crowd. People would whisper, 'That's Mark McGuire's brother, he'll knock one out over left field and hit a car on the Matthews Bridge.' Then the allmighty roid king would strike would swinging like a mad man.
It didn't work out so well for Jay's career... and it sure as hell hasn't worked for DT Jax.
Yeah. If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd have a revitalized Downtown.
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Pretty much says it would help to incentivize homebuyers for downtown. I agree that you can grow DT's population by paying people to live in it. Wallace is right. This strategy has worked for Detroit.
I've never been convinced of this. Downtown Detroit presumably has a substantial quantity of empty residential buildings for newcomers to move to. Downtown Jax doesn't. The demand for downtown living in Jax is already there, but there are too few places for them to go.
Not really. They've torn down most of their building stock. They just have a private sector putting a lot of cash into in incentivizing every aspect of the market, including people they want to live there.
I'm willing to bet they have more than Jax does, which is essentially 0 that isn't already full. Housing in downtown Jax isn't a demand issue, it's a supply issue. Paying people to live there won't do anything unless there's somewhere for them to go.
They mentioned this. Demand isn't the issue in either city. It's cost to rehab or building from scratch verses what the market is willing to pay for a finished product. Detroit has resolved that gap through incentives largely driven by the private sector.
Kevin Hanna is now presenting.
Hanna believes more aggressive incentives are needed. Mentions like Jax, in New Orleans, demand isn't the issue, cost to rehab verses the market price of finished projects is. Suggests subsidies for developers and homebuyers. He also wants us to think big about development along the riverfront. He just threw Atlanta's Atlantic Station out there....
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He just threw Atlanta's Atlantic Station out there....
Would probably make a good drinking game during his presentation and Q/A. I say 5+ mentions.
My first opinion....Wallace is a better presenter. Perhaps Hanna is just nervous though.
Interview with Kevin Hanna:
His goals are:
60 day plan:
* meet with every council person. meet and discuss their ideas and thought.
90 -120 plan:
* draft of CRA plan. I can't speak to the approval process.
who is downtown:
1) 9 to 5 ers
* bring more employees and employers downtown. I can do that. Recruit companies to downtown. target and attack (at the same time protect your back). Put together a package of incentives to attract a specific industry. Make sure that we protect our own. Put together a "hit" list of the major employers downtown to keep them happy so they renew their lease.
2) 5 to 9ers AM & 5 to 9ers PM
* incentives are needed for people to live downtown.
*developers will not develop if their isn't a profit. We have to provide incentives to developers. Also, the owner/occupier needs incentives to move downtown. Subsidies for developers will come from sources like section 108 loan. Homeowner subsidies can come from "collusions" with other agencies that help subsidize home ownership.
3) 9 to 9ers:
* visiters. These are the people that will consider us to think big. Uses Atlantic Station as an example "encourages us" to think along those lines.
* Students, super important. When corporate Atlanta started migrating out of the core Georgia State moved in. Literally, kids from 9 to 9 walk from residences to classes. It adds vibrancy.
Each of these groups require public safety. It is a must. Get out the fact that downtown is not unsafe it is actually one of the safest sectors in the city. Homelessness also needs to be addressed. Arresting our way out of homelessness will not work. A city he's worked with created a ten year plan that included dozens of agencies that worked with the homeless to bring them out of their situation. This is philadelphia. They have significantly reduced their homelessness rate.
Think long term.
Presentation over.
opening for questions.
Hanna involvement with CRAs? In Atlanta they are called TADs or tax allocation districts. He drafted a TAD or TIF in Atlanta with the Atlanta Investment Authority for a west side neighborhood. Also did the TAD for the Atlantic Station site, which was developed a few years after he moved to Philadelphia.
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Quote from: thelakelander on June 06, 2013, 10:25:07 AM
He just threw Atlanta's Atlantic Station out there....
Would probably make a good drinking game during his presentation and Q/A. I say 5+ mentions.
You win. He's already +5 on Atlantic Station.
+10......
Hanna fails Melody Bishop's question about the streets and sidewalks. I believe she was asking about their role in terms of urban redevelopment. He responded that compared to New Orleans the streets are in great shape. No potholes! Sidewalks? He'll need more time to walk them.
Quote from: thelakelander on June 06, 2013, 10:35:26 AM
+10......
Hmmm, one trick pony.
It should be clear there is a recurring theme with both of these candidates.
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Mike Saylor asks if the development authority was the master developer for Atlantic Station. The answer is no. From what I can understand, they were responsible for the creation of the TAD.
Q&A with Kevin Hanna:
q) What value to you put the improvement of the streets?
a) I should have said installing streets. the cost to install the streets was huge. The streets in dt jax are fine especially compared to new orleans.
q) what about sidewalks?
a) i need more information.
q) what was your role with Atlantic station?
a) he made sure that goals were met and that plans were followed.
q) did ya'll have architectural control?
a) yes, they had control. They partnered with the city's planning department.
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Hanna fails Melody Bishop's question about the streets and sidewalks. I believe she was asking about their role in terms of urban redevelopment. He responded that compared to New Orleans the streets are in great shape. No potholes! Sidewalks? He'll need more time to walk them.
Wow, that's concerning. Someone who doesn't care about street level interaction and context. We already have a ton of those types running around here ::)
Is it too late to call Edwards??
Hanna helped create a housing trust fund in Philadelphia. This was done to leverage federal dollars with local money.
Quote from: fieldafm on June 06, 2013, 10:42:00 AM
Is it too late to call Edwards??
If the DIA board members aren't completely sold on either candidate, they sure as crap better.
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Hanna fails Melody Bishop's question about the streets and sidewalks. I believe she was asking about their role in terms of urban redevelopment. He responded that compared to New Orleans the streets are in great shape. No potholes! Sidewalks? He'll need more time to walk them.
Wow, that's concerning. Someone who doesn't care about street level interaction and context. We already have a ton of those types running around here ::)
He seems to be a management level guy. No real experience mentioned so far, when it comes to the design basics of DT revitalization. He seems to know a lot about HUD financing. Used funds to HUD money for a Ritz Charlton in Philly.
q) How do we position jacksonville to take advantage of state and federal funds?
a) Not everything is a competition for money. for instance, historic tax rates. Jacksonville may not take full advantage rates.
People on the panel:
Paul Perez
James Bailer
Donald Harris - Chairman
Tony Allegretti
Kay Harper Williams
Melody Bishop
Mike Saylor
I can't see the name of the vice chairman.
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Hanna fails Melody Bishop's question about the streets and sidewalks. I believe she was asking about their role in terms of urban redevelopment. He responded that compared to New Orleans the streets are in great shape. No potholes! Sidewalks? He'll need more time to walk them.
Wow, that's concerning. Someone who doesn't care about street level interaction and context. We already have a ton of those types running around here ::)
She asked a similar question at the recent panel discussion on the future of urban architecture. In the context of the last discussion she meant it to find out whether or not the emphasis is on street interactions and people or if it is on architectural elements.
yeah. He completely struck out on that one. However, he is right. Our streets are pretty smooth.
Quote from: TheCat on June 06, 2013, 10:50:18 AM
q) How do we position jacksonville to take advantage of state and federal funds?
a) Not everything is a competition for money. for instance, historic tax rates. Jacksonville may not take full advantage rates.
People on the panel:
Paul Perez
James Bailer
Donald Harris - Chairman
Tony Allegretti
Kay Harper Williams
Melody Bishop
Mike Saylor
I can't see the name of the vice chairman.
Oliver Barakat
Quote from: fieldafm on June 06, 2013, 10:42:00 AM
Is it too late to call Edwards??
Appears to be. A decision to select is supposed to happen today, right before lunch.
Opinion of TOD in Jacksonville. Said he helped work to prepare the Lindbergh Station site for TOD in Atlanta. He's a big fan! I am too!
Quote from: stephendare on June 06, 2013, 10:54:13 AM
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Is it too late to call Edwards??
Appears to be. A decision to select is supposed to happen today, right before lunch.
Holy shit. Is there any possibility of asking the decision to be deferred from the public?
i may be wrong here. It says TBD on the agenda.
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Jim Bailey asks how to get suburbanites to buy into downtown being important. Wallace responds by pointing out that Jags games will showcase DT. Are we comfortable with that? Also talks about DT being a donor neighborhood, in terms of funding.
I do not like that idea. The rationale for a vibrant Downtown cannot be so that it can be the piggy bank for the rest of the city.
That kind of thinking is what helped to destroy it in the first place.
I agree!
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Is it too late to call Edwards??
If the DIA board members aren't completely sold on either candidate, they sure as crap better.
Well for the love of god, its better to make no decision and do no harm than make a decision for the sake of decision making and pick a bad fit.
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Is it too late to call Edwards??
If the DIA board members aren't completely sold on either candidate, they sure as crap better.
Well for the love of god, its better to make no decision and do no harm than make a decision for the sake of decision making and pick a bad fit.
Well, Wallace is winning this round, IMO. Hanna says the DIA board is where his bread will be buttered. Even if the rest of the world hates him.
q) transit oriented development?
a) I love it. example given.
q) how can you bring developers into the vacant land? I haven't heard anything about branding? What is your management style?
a) There is all sorts of way to get that done. Marketing needs to be used. Folks need a reason to come.
q) Perez: How will you build your staff? what is your management style?
a) Atlanta Development Authority did not exist before I got there. I was the first employee. I had to build the staff from scratch. It was him and a telephone all day long. We had 40 people on staff. In new orleans, i manage about 8 people.
Flatters the board. Brings up if the board hears anything in the media or in the church to talk to him first before making an assessment.
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Terry Lorince is here. A couple of reporters. There is about 15 people in the audience.
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Who else is present for the meeting? Any of the development or political community?
13, not including the DIA, city staff, me and Arash. Most are media. Others include Noone, Terry Lorince, the CRA consultant and a disinterested kid that was dragged here by a parent.
Hannah:
He has spent the last 15 minutes saying that the board is in charge of the DIA he takes his orders from them. And that he "hopes" that they'll hear him out and consider his input. He's incredibly long-winded but his answers don't go anywhere. It's like looking at a group of "keywords" we're hearing words that matter but they're not cohesive sentences.
Twice, maybe thrice, the board has prefaced their question with "be brief"..that doesn't work.
Mike Saylor asks a good question: Where on the spectrum do you fall? Are you the type of guy that says "this is my agenda" or "what do you want to happen"? How will you approach the board?
He answers it in a round about way by saying I will talk to people and get their input.
Three cheers for the disinterested kid working on some kind of a boy scout project.
Hanna's presentation is over. He mentioned he went to Davidson College and on of Dell Curry's kids played basketball there. not sure how that relates. Board discussion will now follow.
Quote from: thelakelander on June 06, 2013, 11:12:13 AM
Hanna's presentation is over. He mentioned he went to Davidson College and on of Dell Curry's kids played basketball there. not sure how that relates. Board discussion will now follow.
I think Mark McGuire's brother played baseball there too.
More on Hanna:
He spent the vast majority of his time speaking about projects from other cities which didn't add to his presentation and knowledge. It came across more as a smoke screen. Or, like a guy talking about his last girlfriends. You're left with "what about Jacksonville?"
Wallace:
Though I did miss half of Wallace's presentation he still comes across as the clear choice.
Just comparing the Q&A portion Wallace gave me more of a sense of confidence. Wallace spoke in terms of long-term strategy. It felt like the "buck stopped with him" . He considered himself the expert and the leader.
Hanna on the other hand seemed to continually defer to the expertise of other agencies and organizations. He seemed less assured. Hanna seems like he is more of a project manager not necessarily a leader with a vision.
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What sense are you getting from the interview subcommittee?
Melody Bishop: Says Wallace is a bit more of a cheerleader. Concerned that Hanna deferred answering questions instead of offering his opinions.
Mike Saylor: Impressed by Hanna's ability to speak off the cuff. Said you can flip coin because they are so close.
Kay Harper: said Hanna has better experience from working in bigger cities. She's bragging about Atlantic Station.
Unfortunately, Hanna didn't do that and thats not downtown.
Quote from: stephendare on June 06, 2013, 11:25:43 AM
So there are three candidates? Harris, Hanna and Wallace?
two. Hanna and Wallace.
Tony Allegretti: impressed by Wallace presentation. Wallace brought supporting material. Hanna did not.
Oliver Barakat: Wallace strong in private sector finance. Hanna stronger in public sector finance. Charisma is important. Said Wallace had the ability to bring excitement to his presentation. Weakness of Wallace is he doesn't have as much management experience.
Donald Harris: It's close. Wanted to see their passion about Jax. They both love it.
I keep referring to Hanna as Harris. I'll fix later.
The board wants one off projects so Williams and Saylor so far are on the bandwagon for Hanna.
Allegretti: I'm going to score on charisma a bit. He likes that. Hanna was focused on HUD and affordable housing. Which seemed a little top heavy.
Barakat: Charisma is important. Their skill sets are a wash. Leans towards Wallace. He felt more pumped up with Wallace. Felt that having presentation material meant he was prepared not that he could not speak off the cuff. A weakness for Wallace is that he may not have as deep of management experience as Hanna but he comes across as the winner.
Harris: I wanted to see their passion.
Jim Bailey: Liked Wallace's planned presentation. Said Hanna kept saying what they had done as opposed to what he had done. Likes Wallace's confidence. Depends on what board wants. Seems management style is a major issue.
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Donald Harris: It's close. Wanted to see their passion about Jax. They both love it.
anything else or is he the committee sphinx at this point?
no. Seems like he wants to hear other's opinions before picking a side.
Paul Perez: benefit of going last is to hear what everyone else has to say. Say's he doesn't know.
Mike Saylor: Hanna talks the talk.
Bailey: Wallace's personality and confidence will benefit downtown. He's floored by the confidence of Wallace. Bailey noticed that Hanna deferred to board's direction whereas Wallace seemed to want to be the leader.
The board is very ecumenical, "both could fill the role".
Melody Bishop: talks but answers concerning. Had a number of concerning answers. Said Wallace didn't have answers that scared her.
Tony Allegretti: Need someone who can work well with council and mayor's office.
Oliver Barakat: disappointed in Hanna's answers. He had no opinions. For example, when asked about retail in parking garages, he said I'll refer to you guys.
Kay Harper: Concerned Wallace would leave Jax for a better job.
Allegretti: who will be able to transcend turf wars? This person needs to be able to do that so we can see cranes.
Barakat: Disappointed with Hanna's answer in which he said he would defer to the board about one of his questions. Lakelander, did you catch which question?
Williams: Concerned that Wallace was interviewing for other positions. She fears that he could leave.
Discussions about how they actually vote for the candidate. There is a scoring process. Then after they see the scored they will vote to ratify a candidate.
Ironically, though the blood may be new the names are familiar: "Hanna" Park, aka Kathryn Abbey Hanna Park, and our dear departed retiree Steve "Wallace." Karma?
Board preparing to fill out scoring sheets. 15 minutes to score. Members will then turn sheets into Jorgenson Consulting. I have no idea if scores will be announced.
These candidates should have blown the DIA board and us away as experts in their field. I'm obviously not there, but it sounds like they are voting based on which is the least weak candidate, instead of the most dominant candidate. That's never a good thing.
Lake, you were at this and the JTA hiring. Would you say that the tone was much more positive for Ford than these two?
Quote from: stephendare on June 06, 2013, 11:52:33 AM
so
Barakat Wallace
Bailey Wallace
Bishop Wallace
Allegretti Wallace
Perez Unknown
Harris Unknown
Harper Hanna
Saylor Hanna
Is that the sense of it so far?
That's how the comments appear. It's going to be close. I don't see either guy making or breaking downtown. This is totally the opposite of Nat Ford at JTA where you felt he had the ability to significantly turn things around, compared to the other finalist.
Quote from: CityLife on June 06, 2013, 11:58:23 AM
These candidates should have blown the DIA board and us away as experts in their field. I'm obviously not there, but it sounds like they are voting based on which is the least weak candidate, instead of the most dominant candidate. That's never a good thing.
Lake, you were at this and the JTA hiring. Would you say that the tone was much more positive for Ford than these two?
More positive at the JTA hiring. Ford clearly blew the room away. That has not happened here.
Quote from: stephendare on June 06, 2013, 11:56:09 AM
Is there a job description for this position anywhere?
http://jci-inc.net/current-searches
Go there, enter in fake info and it will let you download an 11 page PDF.
Quote from: stephendare on June 06, 2013, 11:28:48 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on June 06, 2013, 11:25:19 AM
Mike Saylor: Impressed by Hanna's ability to speak off the cuff. Said you can flip coin because they are so close.
Mike is so diplomatic. In southern speak, it usually means that there really is no comparison and that Hanna was hugely disappointing.
Thanks for the clarification. The little side conversation on the board about what was more impressive, preparation or a lack of it was kinda confusing.
Quote from: stephendare on June 06, 2013, 11:54:46 AM
Hmm. looking at who is for who, im guessing that the outcome is Wallace.
Ennis, for our new readers on this issue, whats a quick background on him?
Has some experience in South Florida and is currently in a redevelopment position in Detroit. Less management experience than Hanna but more visionary. Had some decent replies but Detroit's recent redevelopment success is driven by a local billionaire who is putting his money where his mouth is.
Quote from: stephendare on June 06, 2013, 12:05:24 PM
Quote from: CityLife on June 06, 2013, 12:01:36 PM
Quote from: stephendare on June 06, 2013, 11:56:09 AM
Is there a job description for this position anywhere?
http://jci-inc.net/current-searches
Go there, enter in fake info and it will let you download an 11 page PDF.
lol. Is there a version thats more for normal people? ;)
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Getting ready to announce the winner.
Wallace wins.
Wallace scores higher than Hanna.
Now the board gets to talk about it.
Motion made by board to select Wallace and to proceed with employment negotiations. Motion approved.
Board wants the media to know that both candidates were qualified and that the process is not over until there is a contract.
Board unanimously approves Wallace.
Quote from: stephendare on June 06, 2013, 12:19:07 PM
Quote from: TheCat on June 06, 2013, 12:17:58 PM
Board wants the media to know that both candidates were qualified and that the process is not over until there is a contract.
Board unanimously approves Wallace.
So diplomatic. Was it Oliver who wanted us in the media to know that?
Bishop and Barakat.
The board is discussing the contract negotiations. Bishop wants some sort of measurables in the contract. Pay bonuses on results.
I'm out. I'll try to get a copy of the score sheets and Wallace's presentation.
Quote from: stephendare on June 06, 2013, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: TheCat on June 06, 2013, 12:26:47 PM
The board is discussing the contract negotiations. Bishop wants some sort of measurables in the contract. Pay bonuses on results.
She was really unhappy with the choices, it sounds like.
I love Bishop. I wish she would run for council.
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Wallace 837
Hanna 797
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2013-06-06/story/downtown-investment-authority-picks-aundra-wallace-detroit-agencys-first
Scorecards:
http://issuu.com/metrojacksonville.com/docs/dia_scorecard (http://issuu.com/metrojacksonville.com/docs/dia_scorecard)