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Title: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: Ocklawaha on May 25, 2013, 01:39:42 PM
Move over Jimi Hendrix, a new ruler of all things guitar has landed.

Age 14

http://www.youtube.com/v/rV6SmY04WdE?hl=en_US

Younger

http://www.youtube.com/v/ovmGnNuyUAE?version=3&hl=en_US

Much Younger (she can barely reach around the neck of the instrument).

http://www.youtube.com/v/6ILbTttLyvY?hl=en_US
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: marksjax on May 25, 2013, 05:21:16 PM
Incredible!
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: Ocklawaha on May 25, 2013, 10:04:01 PM
I'm really shocked more haven't commented, this girl is 'Jimi Hendrix' all over again. She actually restores my faith in humanity. Several musicians that saw this video said they'd put their equipment up for sale!
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: InnerCityPressure on May 26, 2013, 05:05:57 AM
This is really impressive...

but she is not even approaching Jimi Hendrix.  Players like Hendrix are notable because of creativity and innovation.  A cover of "Eruption" is not the type of thing that makes me want to sell my gear and give up.  There are ten 16 year olds in every guitar store that can play that solo.  Those guys will never make it on technical skill alone.  The ones who we hear about will be creating the next thing, not playing the last thing.
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: Ocklawaha on May 26, 2013, 08:48:23 AM
So you learned to play by creating your own music? We have heard one song by her at this age, it seems a little silly that we should assume she hasn't spent hours playing her own song, maybe she has.

This little gal is 14 and she does this effortless not even looking at the instrument throughout the piece. She might not be Hendrix yet, but at the rate she is going she could be. I think she has the stuff to be great.
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: ronchamblin on May 26, 2013, 09:52:11 AM
Impressive even now.  At this early stage, no one knows to what heights this young girl will go, as the young mind, flexible and malleable, absorbs quickly and easily new skills and learning, forming within it the critical new structures from which greater skills and creativity can emerge.  How can we know the end. 

I occasionally marvel at the speed at which some young people learn, the quickness of their responses to stimuli, and am impressed at how some, those who are able, and tuning in for the moment, engage the environment with amazing flexibility, an attribute which seems to dissipate as one grows older.  Of course, there is benefit and value in having an old, rather fixed brain too, which holds fast to habits.  So one might conclude that both the young and the old are needed in an environment to guard against drifts to undesirable extremes.
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: Dog Walker on May 26, 2013, 12:44:20 PM
She plays with the same stone face that all of the great guitarists do.  Watch Truck sometimes.  All of their expressive emotion is coming out of their fingers.

Awesome!
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: InnerCityPressure on May 26, 2013, 12:55:26 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on May 26, 2013, 08:48:23 AM
So you learned to play by creating your own music? We have heard one song by her at this age, it seems a little silly that we should assume she hasn't spent hours playing her own song, maybe she has.

This little gal is 14 and she does this effortless not even looking at the instrument throughout the piece. She might not be Hendrix yet, but at the rate she is going she could be. I think she has the stuff to be great.


Absolutely not.  That's why I started by saying how impressive she was.  I'm just pointing out that a cover solo is not the thing that blows me away.  I am more blown away by creativity than technical skill.  Case in point, the last young female musicians that made me want to quit music wrote this at 14 and 16:

http://www.youtube.com/v/PC57z-oDPLs

Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: InnerCityPressure on May 26, 2013, 01:12:42 PM
FYI - First Aid Kit first gained notoriety by covering songs by Fleet Foxes.  They weren't very impressive to me until they displayed the skill to write their own high quality material.
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: JeffreyS on May 26, 2013, 04:32:45 PM
Bad ass indeed
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: Seraphs on May 27, 2013, 12:52:15 AM
Incredible!  Man does she have a future in music!
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: Ocklawaha on May 27, 2013, 09:51:08 AM
Quote from: InnerCityPressure on May 26, 2013, 01:12:42 PM
FYI - First Aid Kit first gained notoriety by covering songs by Fleet Foxes.  They weren't very impressive to me until they displayed the skill to write their own high quality material.

The peddle steel guitar just kills it for me, I've always thought that Country Music will stunt your growth!  :D  I did however enjoy the music video's photographic images being that it was filmed in Joshua Tree National Park, about 25 minutes from my desert cabin in Landers.

Otherwise, we really don't know what this young girl is playing during her 'alone time,' she might indeed become one of the worlds greatest.
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: spuwho on May 27, 2013, 10:31:15 AM
How many songs did Liberace write? Van Cliburn? Virgil Fox?

Virgil Fox was considered a master at the pipe organ, people were aghast at how he would "translate" classics by Bach.

So Eddie brought tap harmonization to the masses and now some number of 14 or 16 year old have learned how to do it.

When I was a kid, if you could play the riffs to "Smoke on the Water" you were a stud and ready to be in a band. So Eruption is the new benchmark for kids to play guitar, so? Neal Schon of Journey was ripping out some riffs in Santana when he was 15. He went on to write a lot of songs with various people.

So Tina has good technique and clearly has an ear for the strings.

Some people are creators, some just translators, some are gifted with both. Some have skills in both.

Let her develop and hopefully she won't be displayed as some kind of freak on these talent shows.

I just saw Eddie last play of Eruption (or what remains of it) on YouTube from a concert 2 weeks ago. He seemed more fascinated with some new effects he can generate and spent too much time playing the same 2 chords. If he saw this video of Tina he would probably be shrugging his shoulders and saying "so what?"
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: InnerCityPressure on May 27, 2013, 05:03:55 PM
@Ock - I am not big on country...just good songwriting.  These girls were raised listening to 1970's country music in Sweden. I'll give them a pass if they keep writing songs with melodies like that.  Also, my Dad owns a little chunk of desert in Adelanto, about an hour from Landers.  He planned a desert cabin of his own.  Small world, indeed.

Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: BridgeTroll on May 27, 2013, 05:45:58 PM
Quote from: InnerCityPressure on May 26, 2013, 05:05:57 AM
This is really impressive...

but she is not even approaching Jimi Hendrix.  Players like Hendrix are notable because of creativity and innovation.  A cover of "Eruption" is not the type of thing that makes me want to sell my gear and give up.  There are ten 16 year olds in every guitar store that can play that solo.  Those guys will never make it on technical skill alone.  The ones who we hear about will be creating the next thing, not playing the last thing.

Hendrix began by copying the guitar heros of his youth... as did eddie VH... and all the other guitar virtuoso's.  I'm just happy to see someone young actually playing a difficult solo.  Too much of what I hear now is heavily remastered, or sampled, or just plain bashing some chords.  Nearly all the "next good ones" began by copying the previous masters... my guess is ... you did too.... 8)
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: InnerCityPressure on May 27, 2013, 06:35:08 PM
QuoteNearly all the "next good ones" began by copying the previous masters... my guess is ... you did too....

I never said that this girl would not be good.  She clearly has the skill to succeed.  There are lots of kids with the skill (although not quite this much).  The thing that will set them apart is creativity. 

spuwho said it well:
QuoteLet her develop and hopefully she won't be displayed as some kind of freak on these talent shows.

All she is right now is a raw piece of skill that could indeed become "the next Hendrix."  She could also become the lead guitar player of the cover band playing at your local bar. 

Incidentally, it is odd, but I did not learn by playing solos of "the masters."  I'm the kid who put a band together as soon as I could string together 3 chords.  It's why I wanted to learn.  For better or worse, I never learned Stairway to Heaven.  Wayne and Garth would have had trouble accepting me...
Title: Re: 14 Yr Old Shreds Van Halen's - Eruption
Post by: Ocklawaha on May 27, 2013, 09:10:34 PM
I'd love for her to dive into the exploration too.  As for me, I'm about as far from Garth as is possible though we did both have houses near Yukon, Oklahoma... Yeah it really is a small world. John Abercrombie's debut album as lead, Jack DeJohnette, who played in the Miles Davis album, Bitches Brew. with Jan Hammer, who recorded Billy Cobham's, Spectrum, on the keyboard and synths from the Mahavishnu Orchestra, on organ. The result of this creative energy was a 1974 masterpiece 'Timeless.'

This album may have been the inspiration for the entire genre of 'New Age,' music. Word of warning, NEVER listen to this album alone and until the candles are lit. 'You ain't going to neED anymore advice....'

http://www.youtube.com/v/Mv7zSbmQt1o?version=3&hl=en_US