Quote from: stephendare on April 15, 2013, 09:38:08 PM
Gut Reaction: No penalties for being wrong or paranoid or anything like that. If you had to guess, was the Boston Marathon Bombing a: Lone Nut or Group. b: Foreign Terrorists. or c: Domestic Terrorist Attack?
Im going to go with my bias, even though I only feel like I have 10% basis for thinking it.
my guess is that it is domestic terrorists.
Too many things that you would have to know that are specific to Americans, and Boston in particular.
1. The Boston Marathon is one of the only unprotected events around the country. The logistics are just too freaking extensive. 26 miles etc. People from all over the world show up for it.
2. Only Massachussetts celebrates today as Patriot's Day, since it over battles that happened there. Thats a pretty particulor thing to know.
3. Its income tax day. Maybe Im crazy, but it seems like that wouldnt have the same kind of symbolism elsewhere that it has here. However with our domestic terrorizing right wing element, its a big important day. Timothy McVeigh etc.
4. Its the 100th anniversary of the Income Tax, also not a day that other people would track, but which has been made a lot of lately as the Right Wing and GlenBeckistan keeps demonizing both the Fed and the Income Tax.
5. Boston is the hometown of the Revolution, which was anti tax as well as the place of the Boston Tea Party.
All of these facts are the kinds of trick questions designed to fail people trying to take a citizenship exam. Not too likely to have been foreign.
All of these things are, perhaps coincidentally, symbolic to the courthouse bombing, right wing of our own country.
Finally the very fact that there was literally no advance warning for the bombing points to a group of people who are paranoid about TIA, which also suggests our home grown domestic terroristas. The measures needed to deploy that many bombs, in that many places, with all of the right wing symbolism seems to rule out a lone wolf.
On the other hand, there are VERY smart people in Boston. So its conceivable that its just a couple of very determined students at one of the Ivy Leagues.
Nice analysis Inspector Clouseau. Do not let facts/logic get in the way of your agenda/narrative.
He attended the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, not Dartmouth College.
Quote from: Traveller on April 19, 2013, 01:22:11 PM
He attended the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, not Dartmouth College.
Massive difference!
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League
QuoteThe Ivy League is an athletic conference composed of sports teams from eight private institutions of higher education in the Northeastern United States. The conference name is also commonly used to refer to those eight schools as a group.[2] The eight institutions are Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, Princeton University, the University of Pennsylvania, and Yale University. The term Ivy League also has connotations of academic excellence, selectivity in admissions, and social elitism.
and wrong again Inspector Gadget. Could you try and get one thing correct?
Quote from: bill on April 19, 2013, 02:05:51 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League
QuoteThe Ivy League is an athletic conference composed of sports teams from eight private institutions of higher education in the Northeastern United States. The conference name is also commonly used to refer to those eight schools as a group.[2] The eight institutions are Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, Princeton University, the University of Pennsylvania, and Yale University. The term Ivy League also has connotations of academic excellence, selectivity in admissions, and social elitism.
and wrong again Inspector Gadget. Could you try and get one thing correct?
You might find things start to disappear.
Quote from: Adam W on April 19, 2013, 02:25:58 PM
Quote from: bill on April 19, 2013, 02:05:51 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League
QuoteThe Ivy League is an athletic conference composed of sports teams from eight private institutions of higher education in the Northeastern United States. The conference name is also commonly used to refer to those eight schools as a group.[2] The eight institutions are Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, Princeton University, the University of Pennsylvania, and Yale University. The term Ivy League also has connotations of academic excellence, selectivity in admissions, and social elitism.
and wrong again Inspector Gadget. Could you try and get one thing correct?
You might find things start to disappear.
I know the fuhrer does not like dissent or the facts.
Quote from: Adam W on April 19, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Traveller on April 19, 2013, 01:22:11 PM
He attended the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, not Dartmouth College.
Massive difference!
Yep, Dartmouth College is in Hanover, New Hampshire about 2 hours north of Boston.
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 03:55:34 PM
Quote from: carpnter on April 19, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: Adam W on April 19, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Traveller on April 19, 2013, 01:22:11 PM
He attended the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, not Dartmouth College.
Massive difference!
Yep, Dartmouth College is in Hanover, New Hampshire about 2 hours north of Boston.
yawn. Im flattered that the group of you apparently hang on my every word.
Bill wouldnt you be more comfortable explaining the criminal nature of 'the blacks' as usual?
I would rather explain how I did not have to go to Wiki to find out who is in the Ivy League and that Umass at Dartmouth is not one of them. LMFAO
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 05:16:05 PM
Quote from: bill on April 19, 2013, 05:12:04 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 03:55:34 PM
Quote from: carpnter on April 19, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: Adam W on April 19, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Traveller on April 19, 2013, 01:22:11 PM
He attended the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, not Dartmouth College.
Massive difference!
Yep, Dartmouth College is in Hanover, New Hampshire about 2 hours north of Boston.
yawn. Im flattered that the group of you apparently hang on my every word.
Bill wouldnt you be more comfortable explaining the criminal nature of 'the blacks' as usual?
I would rather explain how I did not have to go to Wiki to find out who is in the Ivy League and that Umass at Dartmouth is not one of them. LMFAO
more yawn. Still think that everyone has a right to be armed to the teeth. for freedom?
Background checks for pressure cookers. It is about the children.
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 05:21:28 PM
Quote from: bill on April 19, 2013, 05:12:04 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 03:55:34 PM
Quote from: carpnter on April 19, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: Adam W on April 19, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Traveller on April 19, 2013, 01:22:11 PM
He attended the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, not Dartmouth College.
Massive difference!
Yep, Dartmouth College is in Hanover, New Hampshire about 2 hours north of Boston.
yawn. Im flattered that the group of you apparently hang on my every word.
Bill wouldnt you be more comfortable explaining the criminal nature of 'the blacks' as usual?
I would rather explain how I did not have to go to Wiki to find out who is in the Ivy League and that Umass at Dartmouth is not one of them. LMFAO
And Im not sure where you are going with this fresh new line of dumb (even for you, its surprisingly mouth breathy)
Here is my opening remark:
QuoteGut Reaction: No penalties for being wrong or paranoid or anything like that. If you had to guess, was the Boston Marathon Bombing a: Lone Nut or Group. b: Foreign Terrorists. or c: Domestic Terrorist Attack?
Im going to go with my bias, even though I only feel like I have 10% basis for thinking it.
my guess is that it is domestic terrorists.
Im not sure what part of that leads you to think that my speculation was meant to be promoted as the gospel, but obviously, it was domestic terrorists.
They were both American Citizens.
So if you have some other point, other than 'thank god my like minded right wingers might not be behind this', I think you are failing to register it.
But you failing to make any coherent point is hardly a surprise.
Other than, you know. White people are generally superior in your opinion.
Now now Darely do not get your panties in a wad.
I will try and help you. First settle down. Then take a breath.
OK this is like your being completely ineffective at anything you try and get through the city council. You are like the Washington Generals of consumer advocancy.
One of the reasons for that is that you are a zealot and idealogue. Because of that you make rash judgements without facts. You also mimic others of your kind, like Maddow. Then when you are wrong your only option is going nuclear and using the race card or attempt to impune someones character. You revel in your rightness but really you look stupid. and you are still wrong. Please embrace your wrongness!! It is the only thing I have seen you do well.
Stevie,
It is truly sad that you have to resort to censor. The last tool of the stupid and desperate. But I guess when that is all you have.... and you are still wrong.
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 05:42:25 PM
I always like when you post Bill. You perfectly represent your species. ;)
Keep your chin up lil guy. If you listen you might win one someday
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: bill on April 19, 2013, 06:11:27 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 05:42:25 PM
I always like when you post Bill. You perfectly represent your species. ;)
Keep your chin up lil guy. If you listen you might win one someday
Ill keep my eyes peeled for that 'winning' opportunity, Mr. L! You betcha!
That is the spirit lil fella. You cant be wrong all the time
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 05:21:28 PM
They were both American Citizens.
Actually no, the oldest one was a resident, and the younger one became an American Citizen.
Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 06:26:53 AM
Quote from: Adam W on April 19, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Traveller on April 19, 2013, 01:22:11 PM
He attended the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, not Dartmouth College.
Massive difference!
So massive! Adam. Scuzzzz! I guess I totally got burned, right?
My bad, actually. Weve been pretty busy for the past couple of days ramping up our video and on-air projects for metrojacksonville that Ive really only gotten bits and pieces of the still out of focus picture of the two boys. TV kept repeating Dartmouth, and I didn't really take a moment to look it up. Just assumed he was a med student at Geisel.
I guess he was just the average run of the mill failure one usually associates with Medical School.
He wasn't in "Medical School"; the kid is 19 and just graduated from high school, so he's an undergrad student. Medical School, if he made it that far, comes after one finishes a four year degree.
Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 06:26:53 AM
Quote from: Adam W on April 19, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Traveller on April 19, 2013, 01:22:11 PM
He attended the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, not Dartmouth College.
Massive difference!
So massive! Adam. Scuzzzz! I guess I totally got burned, right?
My bad, actually. Weve been pretty busy for the past couple of days ramping up our video and on-air projects for metrojacksonville that Ive really only gotten bits and pieces of the still out of focus picture of the two boys. TV kept repeating Dartmouth, and I didn't really take a moment to look it up. Just assumed he was a med student at Geisel.
I guess he was just the average run of the mill failure one usually associates with Medical School.
Just for clarity, he was a failure, even at fairly shitty Umass Cambridge:
"The New York Times reported that a college transcript revealed that he was failing many of his college classes. In two semesters in 2012 and 2013, he got seven failing grades, including F's in Principles of Modern Chemistry, Intro American Politics, and Chemistry and the Environment."
Read more: http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/Russian-Boston-Marathon-bombing-suspect-Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-got-Cambridge-scholarship/-/11971628/19813618/-/format/rsss_2.0/-/14blsj0z/-/index.html#ixzz2R0OnnULC
Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 08:04:17 AM
Quote from: Pinky on April 20, 2013, 08:00:10 AM
Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 06:26:53 AM
Quote from: Adam W on April 19, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Traveller on April 19, 2013, 01:22:11 PM
He attended the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, not Dartmouth College.
Massive difference!
So massive! Adam. Scuzzzz! I guess I totally got burned, right?
My bad, actually. Weve been pretty busy for the past couple of days ramping up our video and on-air projects for metrojacksonville that Ive really only gotten bits and pieces of the still out of focus picture of the two boys. TV kept repeating Dartmouth, and I didn't really take a moment to look it up. Just assumed he was a med student at Geisel.
I guess he was just the average run of the mill failure one usually associates with Medical School.
He wasn't in "Medical School"; the kid is 19 and just graduated from high school, so he's an undergrad student. Medical School, if he made it that far, comes after one finishes a four year degree.
You should definitely send his father a strongly worded email, Pinky.
You might include the AP on the CC.
Those idiots.
Apparently they lost your contact info.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/boston-marathon-explosions/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-a-19-year-old-identified-by-ap-as-boston-marathon-bombing-suspect
QuoteDzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, 19, is identified as the surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings and the person arrested in Friday's manhunt.
Tsarnaev's father said his son is an "angel" who was in medical school.
ABC News reported that Tsarnaev was believed to have assault rifles and an assortment of other weapons, including bombs. Authorities were concerned he might try to take hostages, ABC News reported.
Then, just before 9 p.m ET Boston police tweeted, "CAPTURED!!! The hunt is over. The search is done. The terror is over. And justice has won. Suspect in custody."
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was registered as a student at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth and lived in a dormitory there, according to other students. Students there said he was on campus this week after the bombings. The university closed down along with colleges around the Boston area as the search unfolded.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's page on the Russian social networking site Vkontakte says he attended Cambridge Rindge and Latin School, graduating in 2011, the year he won a $2,5000 scholarship from the city of Cambridge, which was celebrated with a reception at City Hall, according to a news release issued at the time.
Cambridge Rindge & Latin School is a highly regarded public school whose alumni include Matt Damon, Ben Affleck and NBA star Patrick Ewing.
Before moving to the United States, he attended School No. 1 in Makhachkala, the capital of Dagestan, a predominantly Muslim republic in Russia's North Caucasus that has become an epicenter of the Islamic insurgency that spilled over from Chechnya.
Online, he describes himself as speaking Chechen as well as English and Russian. His world view is described as "Islam" and he says his personal goal is "career and money."
Dzhokhar's father claims his son is a smart and accomplished young man.
Anzor Tsarnaev spoke with The Associated Press by telephone from the Russian city of Makhachkala.
"My son is a true angel," Anzor said. "Dzhokhar is a second-year medical student in the U.S. He is such an intelligent boy. We expected him to come on holidays here."
His father also said that the little jerkoff was "an angel", and that his sons had been "framed", so he's clearly an idiot. He was also speaking in Russian which was then translated, and clearly doesn't understand the american system of undergrad/graduate higher education, much like you. The AP was just quoting what he said, which is what journalists do. Well, *real* ones.
So what's your point? Are you actually standing by your assertion that this knucklehead was a 19 year old post-graduate medical student at an Ivy League college??
Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 08:27:08 AM
Quote from: Pinky on April 20, 2013, 08:21:18 AM
even at fairly shitty Umass Cambridge Dartmouth:
Quotehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Massachusetts_Medical_School
The University of Massachusetts Medical School (UMMS) is one of five campuses of the University of Massachusetts (UMass) system. It is home to three schools: the School of Medicine, the Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences, the Graduate School of Nursing; a biomedical research enterprise; and a range of public-service initiatives throughout the state. One of the fastest-growing academic health centers in the country, UMMS is located in Worcester, Massachusetts; other UMass sites are located in Amherst, Boston, Dartmouth and Lowell. UMMS is also known as UMass Worcester.
UMMS is ranked 7th in primary-care education and 48th in research among the United States' 125 medical schools in the 2012 U.S. News & World Report annual guide, "America’s Best Graduate Schoolsâ€. UMMS is also a research center. During the past four decades UMMS researchers have made advances in a broad range of disease families, from HIV and infectious diseases to cancer, genetic disorders, diabetes and immune disease. UMMS faculty discovered the link between the immune system and type-1 diabetes, found the genetic cause underlying the third-most-common form of the muscular dystrophies, established the fundamental difference between HIV and other retroviruses and co-discovered RNA interference (RNAi) (a naturally occurring gene-silencing process which has become a tool in research focused on such areas as diabetes, HIV/AIDS and cancer). UMMS scientists are making strides in collaborative efforts to develop vaccines for avian flu, HIV, West Nile virus and rabies.
Wow Pinky, you must have gone to a really good medical school if '7th' is considered 'shitty'.
OMG, you idiot- He wasn't a student at UMMS, he was Undergrad at Umass, and a failing undergrad at that.
Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 08:49:19 AM
Quote from: Pinky on April 20, 2013, 08:33:52 AM
OMG, you idiot- He wasn't a student at UMMS, he was Undergrad at Umass, and a failing undergrad at that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Massachusetts_Medical_School
The University of Massachusetts Medical School (UMMS) is one of five campuses of the University of Massachusetts (UMass) system. It is home to three schools: the School of Medicine, the Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences, the Graduate School of Nursing; a biomedical research enterprise; and a range of public-service initiatives throughout the state. One of the fastest-growing academic health centers in the country, UMMS is located in Worcester, Massachusetts; other UMass sites are located in Amherst, Boston, Dartmouth and Lowell. UMMS is also known as UMass Worcester.
Also, you might include wikipedia in your list of strongly worded emails to be sent out.
those idiots seem to thing that UMMS is one of five campuses of the UMass system. Which you just described as 'shitty', regardless of whether or not the bomber was an undergraduate or not.
Quote"Just for clarity, he was a failure, even at fairly shitty Umass Cambridge:"
For some reason, The UMass Website seems to agree with them.
http://www.umassmed.edu/index.aspx
Good Lord, the world is just chock full of idiots this morning.
fyi. The AP confirmed that he was enrolled at UMass Dartmouth, hence my suggestion that you email them.
I misspoke; Cambridge was the high school he attended. That still doesn't change the fact that you persist (and insist) in being wrong about almost every assertion you've made on this topic.
Was he a Red Sox fan? If the answer to this question is yes, then I believe their father is right.
I watched a silly little flick titled "fever pitch" featuring Drew Barrymore and Jimmy Fallon in homage to Boston as I remember it.
It's fantastic.
A Sox fan would never do such a thing. (Yankee toilet paper seems to be the height of depravity for their ilk)
Q: Why do turrists never bomb hockey games?
Quote from: Adam W on April 19, 2013, 02:25:58 PM
Quote from: bill on April 19, 2013, 02:05:51 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League
QuoteThe Ivy League is an athletic conference composed of sports teams from eight private institutions of higher education in the Northeastern United States. The conference name is also commonly used to refer to those eight schools as a group.[2] The eight institutions are Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, Princeton University, the University of Pennsylvania, and Yale University. The term Ivy League also has connotations of academic excellence, selectivity in admissions, and social elitism.
and wrong again Inspector Gadget. Could you try and get one thing correct?
You might find things start to disappear.
Things didn't disappear, they just were extracted from the old thread and moved to a new thread. Yet the post that started the whole thing only appears as a quote in the first post of this new thread.
You did we'll enough, except for the knee jerk reactionary claim of right wing nut job teabaggers he'll bent on killing people of color and destroying the poor. Well, I expounded a bit, but you get the point.
So I'm saying, you're right, but your wrong.
As I read it (which could be very wrong) your first thought was "Teabaggers" (Or perhaps some other "Don't Tread On Me" faction). Also, the initial thought of the rank and file teabagger was likely "Muslims".
Both of which, turned out to be wrong, even if the bizarre official story line turns out to be what really happened. (You know I'm one of those gutter dwelling conspiracy theorists) (my initial thought was "Goddammit, these fuckers are at it again!)
So now that I claimed that they weren't Muslims, some of our revered posters will need to have a go at me. Bring it.
I may be unaware of the factions you mention. My limited experience with the younger anti gov conspiracy theorist archetype is that they are pro gay (more accurately pro freedom of choice) and not really anti tax. More anti government (read:corporate) coercion via the violent use of force.
Harris, Klebold, Weise, Talovic, Cho, Hawkins, KazmierÂczak, LoughÂner, Holmes, Lanza, and now these two...
QuoteBut there is a growing group of early to mid 20s radicalized mostly male zealots, armed with copies of Ayn Rand and a fond belief that they are 'libertarians' who are increasingly ramping up the rhetoric.
Hmm... they are all certainly teens or twenty somethings... ???
On a happier note... and you heard it here first..........................
I predict a small baby boom 9 months from now in Watertown... 8)
Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 11:58:19 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on April 20, 2013, 11:53:44 AM
On a happier note... and you heard it here first..........................
I predict a small baby boom 9 months from now in Watertown... 8)
lol
marathon babies
"Lockdown babies" may be more accurate. Cant go to work, cant go to school, cant go outside... hmmm... what oh what can we do to pass the time...