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Title: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: thelakelander on February 04, 2013, 11:29:18 AM
No traffic problems huh?

QuoteBefore moving to Clay County last year, I knew my commute time was going to be bad â€" but a recent report shows that it is one of the worst in Florida

full article: http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/blog/morning-edition/2013/02/clay-county-workers-have-2nd-worst.html
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: Tacachale on February 04, 2013, 11:52:06 AM
And more in news that surprises no one...
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: fsujax on February 04, 2013, 12:08:10 PM
Nothing new. We all know this, but remember there are no traffic problems here.
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: fsquid on February 04, 2013, 12:13:56 PM
I was about to say, no surprise
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: Adam W on February 04, 2013, 12:18:58 PM
Who claims there are no traffic problems?
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: thelakelander on February 04, 2013, 12:22:22 PM
Stick around in the local transportation discussions long enough and you'll start coming across sentiment that everything is free flowing on Jacksonville's streets.  To make such points, you'll typically see Jax compared with places five to ten times larger than it like Atlanta or Chicago.
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: JeffreyS on February 04, 2013, 12:34:16 PM
I can personally attest to the awful commute. My wife and I have shifted our work hours to compensate.  One day our "New construction" home won't be upside down and Riverside near my work or the beach will be home again.
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: David on February 04, 2013, 12:52:24 PM
I regularly hear about the commuting nightmares of Clay county residents from my coworker and friend's facebook status updates who live over that way. They usually post a colorful update around 5-7pm at least once a week.

I was reading over the North Florida Regional Transportation study this morning before work:

http://www.northfloridartsc.com/Draft%20Recommendations/Final_122012.pdf

From a layman's POV, It seems like a ton of research & brainstorming with little to no solution implementation for Clay county's traffic woes anytime soon.

Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: tufsu1 on February 04, 2013, 02:44:59 PM
^ the purpose of that study was to determine if and how a regional transportation authority should be created.  There is now legislation in Tallahassee creating the Northeast Florida Regional Transportation Commission.  Once created, the primary responsibility of that body will be to fund and implement regional transportation projects.
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: rvrsdediva on February 04, 2013, 03:31:06 PM
Blanding is a menace.
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: David on February 04, 2013, 03:56:10 PM
Thanks tufsu, that helps me grasp what they are a little more clearly.

Would they supersede any of the projects that JTA/FDOT are involved in? As in what was once a FDOT or JTA project would fall under Northeast Florida Regional Transportation Commission once they're up and running?
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: Doctor_K on February 04, 2013, 04:14:25 PM
Quote from: rvrsdediva on February 04, 2013, 03:31:06 PM
Blanding is a menace.

I generally try to avoid that area of town altogether when I can help it. 

But from the handful of times I've had to venture over there, Blanding is never *not* a menace - even at what might be considered 'off peak' times!

I've never not experienced Blanding from around the mall up past 295 as anything other than a parking lot.  Ever.

I'll take SJTC traffic seven days a week over OP nonsense.
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: tufsu1 on February 04, 2013, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: David on February 04, 2013, 03:56:10 PM
Thanks tufsu, that helps me grasp what they are a little more clearly.

Would they supersede any of the projects that JTA/FDOT are involved in? As in what was once a FDOT or JTA project would fall under Northeast Florida Regional Transportation Commission once they're up and running?

that is possible...and in the case of JTA maybe even likely...one of the key things the entity is to implement is regional transit (like service that crosses municipal boundaries).
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: Ocklawaha on February 04, 2013, 10:29:08 PM
And if Richard Clark has his way, it's going to stay this way!
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: BackinJax05 on February 04, 2013, 11:49:18 PM
This is news? Its been like this in Clay County for what seems like forever. But wait! The Outer Beltway will solve Clay's traffic woes.
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: I-10east on February 05, 2013, 12:28:56 AM
*Insert obligatory witty and sarcastic response here*
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: BIG CHEESE 723 on February 05, 2013, 12:48:31 AM
Clay County traffic is an abomination.
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: I-10east on February 05, 2013, 01:05:44 AM
In my experiences while actually driving down Blanding during peak hours is not too bad IMO in comparison to the arteries that leads to Blanding like Argyle Forest Blvd; Now trying to make a right on AF to Blanding with umpteen braked cars ahead of you in single file, now that's a legitimate nightmare. 
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: Dapperdan on February 05, 2013, 08:05:18 AM
Anyone know anything about the Park N Ride lot that JTA built out near Flermming Island next to the railroad tracks? I assume it is not for a train station, but for bus, but one can dream.
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: tufsu1 on February 05, 2013, 08:45:30 AM
It is for express bus service for now....but yes, it was located next to the tracks in the event that regional commuter rail comes to be.
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: BackinJax05 on February 05, 2013, 06:54:20 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 05, 2013, 08:45:30 AM
It is for express bus service for now....but yes, it was located next to the tracks in the event that regional commuter rail comes to be.


That will be sometime after the Rapture.  ;)
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: spuwho on February 05, 2013, 08:17:01 PM
Haven't you heard, the Outer Beltway is your salvation, rapture averted!

;)
Title: Re: Clay County workers have 2nd worst commute in Florida
Post by: ronchamblin on February 05, 2013, 09:25:37 PM
When my commute time from my house in Fleming Island began to hover around 25 to 30 minutes, I decided to live in a small apartment in the core.  I walk about 80 feet from my work to my apartment.

I've often thought that a good, three day experiment, would be to place "human" traffic light controllers at each of the intersections on U. S. 17 from Fleming Island to Collins Road, just to see how much of a difference this would make to a typical driver's commute.

There are many times when, even if one departs early from home, one is stopped without cause at a light, as if the system is saying.... "Wait for the others so that you can have a traffic jam."  In other words, we have too many rather "dumb" intersections, which delay vehicles attempting to get from A to B as quickly as possible.  The goal of any "system" should be to have absolutely no time during which the intersection is not being crossed or used by some vehicle.

Typical scenario.  You look ahead.  You see two vehicles waiting on a side street.  You have a green light.  The other vehicles are held, stopped.  As you approach the intersection, your light turns red.  You stop, and wait while the other two finally are let go.  You wait some more.

If the system was "right" the other two vehicles would have been let go while you were approaching.  And when you arrived at the intersection, your light would have been green.  No vehicle would have been held up without cause.

If all intersections were controlled by "smart" systems, ones that were able to sense all vehicle positions, speeds, intentions, and quantities in lanes, much as if a human was in the middle of it on a tower, making decisions to accomplish the most efficient movement of traffic, I'll bet the traffic through Orange Park would be remarkably smoother.