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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Downtown => Topic started by: thelakelander on January 09, 2013, 09:59:06 PM

Title: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: thelakelander on January 09, 2013, 09:59:06 PM
QuoteA "qualified buyer" is in talks to acquire the Bostwick Building, the building with a jaguar painted on its boarded-up windows in Downtown Jacksonville, but one of the co-owners said he’s not interested in the offer that was put before him.

full article: http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2013/01/09/mystery-buyer-emerges-for-bostwick.html
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: thelakelander on January 09, 2013, 10:15:09 PM
The mystery buyer is Preston Haskell.

Quotereston Haskell has made an offer to buy Jacksonville’s historic Bostwick building â€" the jaguar-spotted downtown landmark â€" but the property owners have rejected the offer as too low.

Haskell has offered to pay up to $150,000 for the property, the equivalent of $40 a square foot for the 3,825-square-foot parcel of land. The owners, Val and Karl Bostwick, have asked for $325,000 in the past but were unable to find any buyers.

The city has appraised the land and building as being worth $351,000 with the land itself â€" if the building were to be demolished â€" as worth $76,500, or $20 a square foot. Demolition would cost about $40,000, according to the owners’ permit application.

http://m.jacksonville.com/news/premium-news/2013-01-09/story/haskell-bids-jacksonvilles-historic-bostwick-building
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: bornnative on January 09, 2013, 10:32:49 PM
The Bostwicks have had an offer for that amount on the table since at least last April.
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: thelakelander on January 09, 2013, 10:40:56 PM
Imo, they aren't really interested in selling it, unless someone pays them more than what it's really worth. In fact, I'd say their  position is one that has largely kept downtown back.
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: Tacachale on January 09, 2013, 10:46:59 PM
Sad but unsurprising.
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: bornnative on January 10, 2013, 12:06:03 AM
They are.  They're currently incurring $100/day, and have been since March.  They only started the process to finally attempt a permitted demolition (vs by neglect) when the city notified them that they would not grant any further variances or delays and commenced the rolling fine.  Their argument in attempting to get the demo permit is that they don't have the cash to pay the fines or redevelop.
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: strider on January 10, 2013, 08:29:50 AM
Can it be that the tax benefits of "losing" the building are more important that the cash? I don't really see how though.  Do they really think the empty lot will be worth much more than $220,000 someday realtively soon? (the value of the deal - 150K plus fines and demo cost savings).

While rolling fines were often neotiated away in the past, I have been hearing a different story lately so they may indeed matter.  I wonder if the brothers are sure they won't have to pay them if the building is gone.  They, of course, won't accrue anymore, but the existing ones may be forever attached to the property, regardless of what they may have verbally been told.

It is interesting that the owners can come up with $40K to demo but couldn't come up with the then much smaller amount to fix the roof, which would have prevented all of this from happening to begin with.  And kept the building in a state in which someone may have paid what they wanted.
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: Mathew1056 on January 10, 2013, 08:41:46 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on January 09, 2013, 10:40:56 PM
Imo, they aren't really interested in selling it, unless someone pays them more than what it's really worth. In fact, I'd say their  position is one that has largely kept downtown back.

I fully agree. It seems that in any area such as downtown or Main Street you find property held by investors waiting for the market to take off. The only problem is that these investors sit on many of the key properties. When are we going to stop treating property like a savings account?
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: ubben on January 10, 2013, 11:38:26 AM
The Bostwicks have just ruined their name in this city.
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: urbaknight on January 10, 2013, 02:56:31 PM
Are the Bostwics from here. If so, that would explain a lot.
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: acme54321 on January 10, 2013, 03:00:16 PM
Their name is cast into the side of a 100 year old building...  so I'd say yes LOL
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: sheclown on January 10, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
Quote from: ubben on January 10, 2013, 11:38:26 AM
The Bostwicks have just ruined their name in this city.

yes, I agree.  I think we all understand how you can get into a jam.  Maybe we can understand why you let your building deteriorate.  But to petition to have it demolished when a new owner is willing and capable to bring it to life?

Disgraceful.

Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: JeffreyS on January 10, 2013, 05:50:54 PM
How should we bring public pressure to bear on them?
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: sheclown on January 10, 2013, 06:01:28 PM
On Jan 15th at LUZ.
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: WmNussbaum on January 10, 2013, 07:14:10 PM
I have never seen a group like this one, which has fine tuned an ability to play with the money of others.
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: acme54321 on January 10, 2013, 07:22:05 PM
Pot meet kettle!! LOL
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: thelakelander on January 10, 2013, 07:54:41 PM
lol...
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: Pinky on January 11, 2013, 12:56:49 AM
Quote from: WmNussbaum on January 10, 2013, 07:14:10 PM
I have never seen a group like this one, which has fine tuned an ability to play with the money of others.

No.  Seriously?  After the economic screw-job you bastards put to Mellow Mushroom, you seriously want to talk about playing with the money of others?

You're one amazing animal Nussbaum.
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: comncense on May 07, 2013, 09:37:54 PM
Update in the TU today about some business partners that are looking into putting a restaurant into the Bostwick building.

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/steve-patterson/2013-05-07/restaurant-planned-bostwick-building-if-pile-problems
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: JeffreyS on May 07, 2013, 09:44:47 PM
Crossing fingers.
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: JFman00 on May 08, 2013, 01:51:37 AM
Cool bank to restaurant conversion in Cleveland (http://www.theatlanticcities.com/design/2012/08/1925-bank-vault-swanky-eatery-story-clevelands-crop-bistro/2991/)

(http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2012/08/17/Crop_Interiors-0895web_1/largest.jpg)

What we could be looking forward to?
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: thelakelander on May 08, 2013, 10:23:52 AM
^Half of the Bostwick's roof is gone.  However, there is a cool safe inside there.

Ovinte partners want to buy the Bostwick Building for restaurant development

QuoteJacques Klempf, Chad Munsey and Fraser Burns, partners in the Ovinte wine, cocktails and tapas lounge at the St. Johns Town Center, have been identified as the purchasing group under contract for the Bostwick Building.

full article: http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=539429
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: Overstreet on May 08, 2013, 11:08:37 AM
".......Klempf said after the meeting that a lawsuit filed on behalf of a Bostwick Building neighbor regarding water damage intrusion must be addressed by the Bostwicks before the deal is complete. ......."


mmmmmm. Seems the Bostwicks won't take a reasonable offer for the building. They won't pay the fine.  New roof structure, roofing, and brick pointing will take more than the $40,000 earlier mentioned.

I don't think you'd better count on this deal coming true.
Title: Re: Bostwick rejects mystery offer to buy historic Downtown building
Post by: urbaknight on May 08, 2013, 12:51:46 PM
I agree, it would just be too good for ol Jacksonville:(