I saw this on WTLV-12 that a Great and Honest Man and his Wife are coming to Jacksonville, Fl. http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/article/281328/3/Joel-Osteen-bringing-message-of-hope-to-Jacksonville-November-30
Amen! :)
Hopefully Victoria doesn't assault any flight attendants on the way over.
The only "hope" he's bringing is the hope that you're going to give him money to pay the property tax on his 10.1 million dollar house.
Quote from: RiversideLoki on November 06, 2012, 02:57:08 PM
The only "hope" he's bringing is the hope that you're going to give him money to pay the property tax on his 10.1 million dollar house.
You should come you may learn a thing or two about how to have peace in your heart and brain. ;)
Quote from: RiversideLoki on November 06, 2012, 02:57:08 PM
The only "hope" he's bringing is the hope that you're going to give him money to pay the property tax on his 10.1 million dollar house.
+1
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on November 06, 2012, 03:16:10 PM
Quote from: RiversideLoki on November 06, 2012, 02:57:08 PM
The only "hope" he's bringing is the hope that you're going to give him money to pay the property tax on his 10.1 million dollar house.
You should come you may learn a thing or two about how to have peace in your heart and brain. ;)
O'Steen is a con artist...who prays on people like you...who question nothing and believe anything.
Quote from: cline on November 06, 2012, 02:43:31 PM
Hopefully Victoria doesn't assault any flight attendants on the way over.
I have flown for years and sometimes flight attendants can be a real pain in the seat of my pants!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404061,00.html
Quote from: ben says on November 06, 2012, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: RiversideLoki on November 06, 2012, 02:57:08 PM
The only "hope" he's bringing is the hope that you're going to give him money to pay the property tax on his 10.1 million dollar house.
+1
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on November 06, 2012, 03:16:10 PM
Quote from: RiversideLoki on November 06, 2012, 02:57:08 PM
The only "hope" he's bringing is the hope that you're going to give him money to pay the property tax on his 10.1 million dollar house.
You should come you may learn a thing or two about how to have peace in your heart and brain. ;)
O'Steen is a con artist...who prays on people like you...who question nothing and believe anything.
Ben says nothing again? ::)
Quote from: RiversideLoki on November 06, 2012, 02:57:08 PM
The only "hope" he's bringing is the hope that you're going to give him money to pay the property tax on his 10.1 million dollar house.
260k a year in property taxes.
Joel O'Steen is a total phony. Thats my opinion & Im sticking to it.
However, if others choose to give up their money to buy his books, go see him, etc., that is their choice.
I have nothing against people who shop at Winn-Dixie, so how can I dislike those who like Joel O'Steen? ;)
Quote from: stephendare on November 06, 2012, 03:49:29 PM
Maybe its best to let Joel Osteen speak
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http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/joel-osteen-gays-are-bullied-because-they-let-bullies-steal-their-power/discrimination/2011/10/27/29303
Joel Osteen, a Texas Evangelical megachurch televangelist, says that gays are bullied because they are letting bullies steal their power. Pastor Osteen also suggests that homosexuals are not whole persons, and that if they are loved enough they will stop being gay. Osteen repeatedly has stated his belief that homosexuality is a sin, but that it is no greater sin than any other in the Bible.
WATCH: Joel Osteen: I’m Not Out To Bash Anyone But… Yes, Homosexuality Is A Sin
“They don’t have to let people steal their power, especially all the bullying, things that we see going on with that,†Joel Osteen says. Apparently, a positive attitude and projecting empowerment is all that LGBTQ and -perceived youth and teens need to stop bullies from beating the crap out of them, and forcing them into suicide contemplation.
In an interview with the Washington Post’s Sally Quinn, Osteen, pushing his latest book, “Every Day a Friday: How to Be Happier 7 Days a Week.†Osteen’s publisher notes that the title “comes from research that shows people are happiest on Fridays. Pastor Joel Osteen writes how we can generate this level of contentment and joy every day of the week.â€
Igor Volsky at Think Progress offers this transcript:
Somebody that maybe had this certain difficulty now, maybe in five years they’re not if we will love them. You know, I think one of the messages I speak on sometimes is, you know, we can love people back into wholeness. But sometimes we want to beat them down â€" you got this addiction and you shouldn’t have that, or you did this â€" I just don’t think that’s the best way.
Volsky notes, “Osteen said that he would attend a same-sex marriage but wouldn’t officiate it, before adding, ‘we’re all growing, we’re all changing.’ ‘Somebody who has a certain difficulty now, maybe they won’t in five years. You know, one of the messages I speak to is, you can love people into wholeness’.â€
"WATCH: Joel Osteen: I’m Not Out To Bash Anyone But… Yes, Homosexuality Is A Sin" This from fox news (Houston megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen has said numerous times that he believes being gay is a sin in accordance with his understanding of Christian scripture.
In an appearance on Fox News Sunday, Osteen further discussed his position on being gay by telling host Chris Wallace that he "doesn't dislike anybody" and believes gays are some of "most loving people in the world," despite his strongly held conviction that homosexuality is a sin.
"I believe the scripture says that being gay is a sin. But, you know, every time I say that, Chris … people say, well, you are a gay hater and you’re a gay basher," Osteen told Wallace during the interview. "I'm not. I don't - I don't dislike anybody. Gays are some of the nicest, kindest, most loving people in the world. But my faith is based on what I believe the scripture says, and that's the way I read the scripture.â€) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/02/joel-osteen-being-gay-is-a-sin-fox-news_n_1471247.html
Please forgive me MJ people, but Joel Osteen is a charlatan, and he's full of sh#t. I know it. You know it. And he knows it. And if there was a god looking down kindly upon us, he would know it. So please, let's all just agree on this and get on with our work.
I did a stint in downtown Houston... You guys think FBC has a footprint?
I bet he has a bitchin' camero too.
You don't get goodies like 10 million dollar mansions and ten million square ft churches by doing nothing. He's selling GOD POWER. (If only I could find the recipe and bottle that stuff)
Haters gonna hate.
Quote from: buckethead on November 06, 2012, 09:44:11 PM
I did a stint in downtown Houston... You guys think FBC has a footprint?
I bet he has a bitchin' camero too.
You don't get goodies like 10 million dollar mansions and ten million square ft churches by doing nothing. He's selling GOD POWER. (If only I could find the recipe and bottle that stuff)
Haters gonna hate.
“Haters are cowards. When confronted they often back down. We must resist haters,â€
Janet Reno quotes
Quote from: buckethead on November 06, 2012, 09:44:11 PM
I did a stint in downtown Houston... You guys think FBC has a footprint?
I bet he has a bitchin' camero too.
You don't get goodies like 10 million dollar mansions and ten million square ft churches by doing nothing. He's selling GOD POWER. (If only I could find the recipe and bottle that stuff)
Haters gonna hate.
I really love your quote (He's selling GOD POWER. (If only I could find the recipe and bottle that stuff)
Update here is the Joel Osteen website full of great info. :D http://ww2.joelosteen.com/Pages/Index.aspx
I once listen to Billy Graham at the Gator Bowl and Joel Osteen in my eyes is the next Billy Graham P.T.L. ;)
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on November 07, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Update here is the Joel Osteen website full of great info. :D http://ww2.joelosteen.com/Pages/Index.aspx
I once listen to Billy Graham at the Gator Bowl and Joel Osteen in my eyes is the next Billy Graham P.T.L. ;)
Are you a real person? I'm starting to think nobody could believe what you believe, and you must be some satirical mastermind.
Quote from: ben says on November 07, 2012, 05:09:44 PM
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on November 07, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Update here is the Joel Osteen website full of great info. :D http://ww2.joelosteen.com/Pages/Index.aspx
I once listen to Billy Graham at the Gator Bowl and Joel Osteen in my eyes is the next Billy Graham P.T.L. ;)
Are you a real person? I'm starting to think nobody could believe what you believe, and you must be some satirical mastermind.
I was just thinking the same thing. I often wonder if he is just winding us up and having a laugh at our expense. If so, my hat is most definitely off to him!
If not, good for him for speaking his mind anyway. It would get boring around here if everyone was too easy to pigeonhole.
Quote from: Adam W on November 07, 2012, 05:21:22 PM
Quote from: ben says on November 07, 2012, 05:09:44 PM
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on November 07, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Update here is the Joel Osteen website full of great info. :D http://ww2.joelosteen.com/Pages/Index.aspx
I once listen to Billy Graham at the Gator Bowl and Joel Osteen in my eyes is the next Billy Graham P.T.L. ;)
Are you a real person? I'm starting to think nobody could believe what you believe, and you must be some satirical mastermind.
I was just thinking the same thing. I often wonder if he is just winding us up and having a laugh at our expense. If so, my hat is most definitely off to him!
If not, good for him for speaking his mind anyway. It would get boring around here if everyone was too easy to pigeonhole.
Dear Adam W. to be a real American it's best to speak your mind right or wrong. But I can't do this alone this is the main reason God is in my life and will be to the end. When I die and my body is in the ground outside of Gainesville Florida at Prairie Creek Conservation Cemetery http://conservationburialinc.org/ and my soul is up in heaven life for me will be complete. Now if it works out how you feel it will then my dead cold body will be in the ground either way I win. Peace to you and your family brother Adam.
^ Definitely satirical mastermind....
Quote from: ben says on November 07, 2012, 06:34:43 PM
^ Definitely satirical mastermind....
A lot like Jesus?
It's the religious version of NorthMiami/KnowGrowth...
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on November 07, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Update here is the Joel Osteen website full of great info. :D http://ww2.joelosteen.com/Pages/Index.aspx
I once listen to Billy Graham at the Gator Bowl and Joel Osteen in my eyes is the next Billy Graham P.T.L. ;)
Joel Osteen is no Billy Graham and he never will be.
Quote from: carpnter on November 08, 2012, 08:49:34 AM
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on November 07, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Update here is the Joel Osteen website full of great info. :D http://ww2.joelosteen.com/Pages/Index.aspx
I once listen to Billy Graham at the Gator Bowl and Joel Osteen in my eyes is the next Billy Graham P.T.L. ;)
Joel Osteen is no Billy Graham and he never will be.
They're both losers though...
At least Billy Graham never charged to go to one of his crusades. God Bless him.
I'd object if I thought that he was trying to profit from selling the Gospel, but it seems to be more the consistency of snake oil.
It is fine to feel good and be happy, but don't confuse having those ephemeral feelings with the Gospel.
Not everything that one "proclaims" will come to pass. That would be a magical incantation, and that's from a differant religion.
Quote from: ben says on November 08, 2012, 12:10:24 PM
Quote from: carpnter on November 08, 2012, 08:49:34 AM
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on November 07, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Update here is the Joel Osteen website full of great info. :D http://ww2.joelosteen.com/Pages/Index.aspx
I once listen to Billy Graham at the Gator Bowl and Joel Osteen in my eyes is the next Billy Graham P.T.L. ;)
Joel Osteen is no Billy Graham and he never will be.
They're both losers though...
Ben Says nothing again. Ben you have so much pain in your heart of coal why don't you come back to Jesus?