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Title: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: sheclown on October 10, 2012, 05:07:34 PM
In 2010, DART funds were used to tear down this historic home?

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/1344Ionia2-1.jpg)

1344 Ionia St.
Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: strider on October 10, 2012, 05:29:10 PM
The city uses both Crime Haven Elimination Program and DART as the same thing.

Here's the link to the CHEP or DART report that has a list of abated houses attached, of which 1344 Ionia is a part of.

http://www.coj.net/mayor/docs/the-jacksonville-journey/2009---2010-funded-programs/rept_dart--september-2010.aspx (http://www.coj.net/mayor/docs/the-jacksonville-journey/2009---2010-funded-programs/rept_dart--september-2010.aspx)

Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: sheclown on October 10, 2012, 05:29:43 PM
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/1344Ionia3-1.jpg)
Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: sheclown on October 10, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/JackJourney.jpg)

http://www.coj.net/mayor/docs/the-jacksonville-journey/2009---2010-funded-programs/rept_dart--september-2010.aspx
Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: Springfielder on October 10, 2012, 05:46:24 PM
Is that legal? Just doesn't seem right
Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: sheclown on October 10, 2012, 08:25:10 PM
QuoteDrug Abatement Response Team (DART)

The Jacksonville 'Drug Abatement Response Team (DART) was established to combat illegal drugs in Jacksonville by supplementing the traditional approach to solving the drug problem. This program is a partnership between the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office and the City of Jacksonville to focus on the property where drug activity and/or other illegal activities flourishes. By working with landlords/property owners, code enforcement strategies are developed and resources are brought to bear to reduce and eliminate crime. Actions include bringing the property up to code, as a way to deter illegal activity on the site.

http://www.coj.net/departments/sheriffs-office/homeland-security-division/dart-program.aspx
Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: ChriswUfGator on October 11, 2012, 06:09:43 AM
So if a house is boarded up and vacant, what on earth is the justification to demolish it using crime prevention grants from the federal government? Maybe a crime might possibly happen there one day if we wait long enough? Smells like a misuse of grant money to me.
Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: sheclown on October 11, 2012, 11:39:22 AM
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/1344ioniademolished-1.jpg)
Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: sheclown on October 14, 2012, 09:24:22 AM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on October 11, 2012, 06:09:43 AM
So if a house is boarded up and vacant, what on earth is the justification to demolish it using crime prevention grants from the federal government? Maybe a crime might possibly happen there one day if we wait long enough? Smells like a misuse of grant money to me.

Is DART federally funded?
Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: movedsouth on October 14, 2012, 09:44:23 AM
fwiw, if you go tot ht e DART page at coj.net, they are not trying to hide the fact that they are demolishing (but I don't think the picture is a historic structure) http://www.coj.net/mayor/the-jacksonville-journey/2010---2011-funded-programs/dart.aspx

Looks like funding, at least in part, comes from the Jacksonville Journey to MCCD. For this particular activity, I do not see any federal funds used. Federal funds that are part of the Jacksonville Journey are usually assigned via grants to specific activities.
Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: sheclown on October 14, 2012, 12:05:14 PM
Where does Jacksonville Journey get its money from? 
Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: Springfielder on October 15, 2012, 07:22:12 AM
Quote from: sheclownWhere does Jacksonville Journey get its money from?
although from the start it was said that JJ would never be funded by tax dollars, and from the start it has been
Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: ChriswUfGator on October 15, 2012, 07:39:19 AM
I think what she's objecting to generally are crime prevention programs being used to demolish houses because MCCD doesn't like the peeling paint. There is a logical disconnect between that and crime prevention, the two have nothing to do with one another, and any way you cut it, it's misleading the public as to where their money's going. I'd venture to guess waaaaaaaaay more occupied dwellings are used in the commission of a crime, why don't we start knocking those down too?
Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: sheclown on November 20, 2013, 07:34:48 AM
update on this.

DART is Department of Justice money. 

Federal Funds.

Title: Re: DART funds used to tear down historic houses?
Post by: JaxUnicorn on February 26, 2014, 06:00:00 PM
Just to clear this up a bit....further research has revealed that Jacksonville Journey funds were NOT used to demolish this historic structure.  The demolition was actually done by the owner (or perhaps mortgage holder) of the property.