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Title: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: ben says on August 28, 2012, 01:10:04 PM
Couldn't find the old thread on the Laundry/Oak Street.

Anyways, there's a dumpster out front and a bulldozer type instrument inside.

I don't think it's a demo job, but I am concerned.....I at least want to know what they're planning!
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: Dog Walker on August 28, 2012, 02:58:55 PM
The had a COA application sign in their window for a while that said, "storefront renovations."  As far as we could tell that was the last original storefront in all of Riverside/Avondale and we used it as an example for our restoration project.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: TPC on August 28, 2012, 03:17:10 PM
I seem to remember a thread about those buildings as well, I think someone said they were toxic from all of the old laundry chemicals.

On a side note, I always thought it would be cool if they were renovated and turned into a store front called Deluxe and they left the tiled signage.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: ben says on August 28, 2012, 03:51:01 PM
They definitely have toxic issues. They need to do serious remediation work before it's usable. I pushed hard, with a few partners, to buy the thing last year, but the owners really wanna keep it.

As long as they "restore it"--i.e., keep the facade, make it habitable--I'd be thrilled.

Think it'd be a great spot to put 'town (since they left Avondale)--put in an AIX style restaurant--keep the Riverside area alive!
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: Dog Walker on August 28, 2012, 04:32:31 PM
The owner really wanted to tear it all down a few years ago.  I think it was to put up apartments.  RAP objected as did the Historic Preservation Commission since they are contributing buildings.  2008 crisis put an end to tear down attempts.

That would be a great location for a neat restaurant called "Deluxe"!
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: ben says on August 28, 2012, 04:43:23 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on August 28, 2012, 04:32:31 PM
That would be a great location for a neat restaurant called "Deluxe"!

Amen!

From a purely technical standpoint, would it be possible to restore the contributing structure, yet add apartments (1-3 floors) on top of the existing building?
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: Dog Walker on August 28, 2012, 04:47:05 PM
Quote from: ben says on August 28, 2012, 04:43:23 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on August 28, 2012, 04:32:31 PM
That would be a great location for a neat restaurant called "Deluxe"!

Amen!

From a purely technical standpoint, would it be possible to restore the contributing structure, yet add apartments (1-3 floors) on top of the existing building?

I doubt that the foundation would take the additional weight.  Some of the construction techniques and engineering used on buildings that old were sometimes pretty marginal.

"They don't build them like they used to!"  Answer:  "Oh, Thank God!"
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: TPC on August 28, 2012, 04:48:11 PM
Is Bold Bean built on an old laundromat spot? I remember taking photos there for a school project about 7 years ago.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: If_I_Loved_you on August 28, 2012, 04:53:59 PM
http://www.epa.gov/region2/capp/dryclean.htm
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: Garden guy on August 28, 2012, 10:02:42 PM
On contaminated land..does anyone know of what might ever happen the the lot on the corner of Mcduff and post? Its been empty for years. It would be a perfect open market if the land. Is so fucked up beyond repair I wonder what could it me used for.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: riverside_mail on August 29, 2012, 06:28:00 AM
Quote from: TPC on August 28, 2012, 04:48:11 PM
Is Bold Bean built on an old laundromat spot? I remember taking photos there for a school project about 7 years ago.

No. That used to be a food market. Bakery Moderne is in what used to be a laundromat.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: TPC on August 29, 2012, 08:09:01 AM
Thanks riverside_mail. I knew a laundromat was around there but couldn't remember which building.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: aubureck on August 29, 2012, 08:13:13 AM
They did go to the JHPC a few months ago.  I believe they're redoing the roof and the storefronts.  The storefronts were approved because the applicant made a case that the existing storefronts were beyond repair.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: Dog Walker on August 29, 2012, 10:31:41 AM
I hope that the new storefronts will resemble the old ones and they are not allowed to put in cheap, raw aluminum and plate glass.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: ben says on August 29, 2012, 10:58:37 AM
Quote from: Dog Walker on August 29, 2012, 10:31:41 AM
I hope that the new storefronts will resemble the old ones and they are not allowed to put in cheap, raw aluminum and plate glass.

Agree
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: 5ptscurmudgeon on September 03, 2012, 09:50:13 AM
PERC is some very nasty s#*t. I used to install dry cleaning equipment and couldn't even be in the building when we loaded the 20-30 gal. of PERC into new machines. Made me sick as hell. I'm gonna need to see some serious legitimate studies/ cleanup before I would ever eat or inhabit anywhere PERC was used for 50 years. You would not believe what leaches out of ground and walls when you suddenly climate control something that has sat un-airconditioned for decades.

Let's keep a close eye on this one folks. Could be saving someones health or life.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: Dog Walker on September 03, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
Storefront and entire roof are GONE!  Only thing left is/are the four walls and floor.  (English is a weird language!)
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: If_I_Loved_you on September 03, 2012, 10:54:06 AM
Quote from: 5ptscurmudgeon on September 03, 2012, 09:50:13 AM
PERC is some very nasty s#*t. I used to install dry cleaning equipment and couldn't even be in the building when we loaded the 20-30 gal. of PERC into new machines. Made me sick as hell. I'm gonna need to see some serious legitimate studies/ cleanup before I would ever eat or inhabit anywhere PERC was used for 50 years. You would not believe what leaches out of ground and walls when you suddenly climate control something that has sat un-airconditioned for decades.

Let's keep a close eye on this one folks. Could be saving someones health or life.
You're 100% right just look at the facts people!
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: Dog Walker on September 03, 2012, 04:06:02 PM
Wouldn't they have just put the PERC down the drains when it got dirty?  IS this property contaminated?
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: If_I_Loved_you on September 03, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on September 03, 2012, 04:06:02 PM
Wouldn't they have just put the PERC down the drains when it got dirty?  IS this property contaminated?
It could be contaminated? I wish I knew if their has been any studies done on this land? The public has the right to know!
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: riverside_mail on September 15, 2012, 11:19:01 AM
Just found out what is going in there. I ran across two guys canvassing the neighborhood with flyers for Snap Fitness moving to their new location sometime in October.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: ben says on September 15, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: riverside_mail on September 15, 2012, 11:19:01 AM
Just found out what is going in there. I ran across two guys canvassing the neighborhood with flyers for Snap Fitness moving to their new location sometime in October.

Snap Fitness? Really? Ugh....disappointed. Glad SOMETHING is happening there, but on a scale of excitement from 1-10, a new gym rates about a 1...

Guess it beats a Dollar Store or something....

Figured it would be a GREAT spot for 'town to relocate to...
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: Dog Walker on September 15, 2012, 12:12:22 PM
It's just good that anything is going into the space.  Are they going to be using the connected building next door too?  If so that would be a significant enlargement of the size of their gym.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: riverside_mail on September 15, 2012, 01:04:45 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on September 15, 2012, 12:12:22 PM
It's just good that anything is going into the space.  Are they going to be using the connected building next door too?  If so that would be a significant enlargement of the size of their gym.
The flyer said 6000 sq. ft. So I assume so.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: PeeJayEss on September 18, 2012, 11:02:36 AM
I like this development. That area gets a little more activity, and secured 24 hr activity at that, and the major limitation of the gym (size) is alleviated. An attached smoothie place or something would be cool, but I don't know the size of all the storefronts together. Then, we get something new in the former Snap space at 1661!

Though I would've been cool with 'Town or something else.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: Captain Zissou on September 18, 2012, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: riverside_mail on September 15, 2012, 11:19:01 AM
Just found out what is going in there. I ran across two guys canvassing the neighborhood with flyers for Snap Fitness moving to their new location sometime in October.

That is awesome.  I was a member at Snap when I lived in 5 points.  The staff their is fantastic, but the gym is just so small.  Despite the entire floor being covered with equipment, they still aren't able to fit in some of the basic equipment a good gym needs.  This will allow them to offer classes, provide more services, and draw in more costumers.  An attached smoothie place would be amazing, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.  Also, could this be the space that Bento chooses to open a second Jax location?  Bento and Mochi are owned by the same company and many of the bento locations are adjacent to a Mochi.  It's a stretch, but not really.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: If_I_Loved_you on September 18, 2012, 11:42:34 AM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on September 18, 2012, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: riverside_mail on September 15, 2012, 11:19:01 AM
Just found out what is going in there. I ran across two guys canvassing the neighborhood with flyers for Snap Fitness moving to their new location sometime in October.

That is awesome.  I was a member at Snap when I lived in 5 points.  The staff their is fantastic, but the gym is just so small.  Despite the entire floor being covered with equipment, they still aren't able to fit in some of the basic equipment a good gym needs.  This will allow them to offer classes, provide more services, and draw in more costumers.  An attached smoothie place would be amazing, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.  Also, could this be the space that Bento chooses to open a second Jax location?  Bento and Mochi are owned by the same company and many of the bento locations are adjacent to a Mochi.  It's a stretch, but not really.
I checked out this Bento restaurant you spoke of and this would be a great idea for this area.  ;)
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: birdilicious on September 18, 2012, 11:46:10 AM
I just hope they don't build another Pizza place, or yogurt franchise.
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: ben says on September 18, 2012, 12:18:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on September 18, 2012, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: riverside_mail on September 15, 2012, 11:19:01 AM
Just found out what is going in there. I ran across two guys canvassing the neighborhood with flyers for Snap Fitness moving to their new location sometime in October.

That is awesome.  I was a member at Snap when I lived in 5 points.  The staff their is fantastic, but the gym is just so small.  Despite the entire floor being covered with equipment, they still aren't able to fit in some of the basic equipment a good gym needs.  This will allow them to offer classes, provide more services, and draw in more costumers.  An attached smoothie place would be amazing, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.  Also, could this be the space that Bento chooses to open a second Jax location?  Bento and Mochi are owned by the same company and many of the bento locations are adjacent to a Mochi.  It's a stretch, but not really.

I'd love a Bento right there...but with Mochi just going out of business 1 block away, I can't see Bento looking to start again in that area...
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: Captain Zissou on September 18, 2012, 12:34:04 PM
^Oh, I wasn't aware that they had closed.  Interesting.  I don't get the whole FroYo fad, but of the 4 or 5 that opened near there, I assumed Mochi would be one of the survivors
Title: Re: Oak Street - Laundry Construction
Post by: ben says on September 18, 2012, 12:56:19 PM
Mochi closed within the past few weeks, and SweetFrog is moving in it's place (another froyo joint)...why ANOTHER froyo is moving in is beyond me.

Seems that Tasti-D is the last man standing, so to speak. Even they look like they're struggling....