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Title: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: mtraininjax on August 19, 2012, 12:21:29 PM
http://www.wokv.com/gallery/news/local/racy-firefighter-photos/grck/#2172291 (http://www.wokv.com/gallery/news/local/racy-firefighter-photos/grck/#2172291)

Makes me a bit sick to see that a fundraiser is drawn down to this level of striptease.  What say you?
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: ben says on August 19, 2012, 02:23:27 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on August 19, 2012, 12:21:29 PM
http://www.wokv.com/gallery/news/local/racy-firefighter-photos/grck/#2172291 (http://www.wokv.com/gallery/news/local/racy-firefighter-photos/grck/#2172291)

Makes me a bit sick to see that a fundraiser is drawn down to this level of striptease.  What say you?

The sick part is that the firefighters need to fundraise in the first place. Firefighters should be 'taken care of' financially....

On the other hand, the pictures make it seem like the fighters are having fun. Good for them
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: fsquid on August 19, 2012, 02:28:13 PM
I have no problem with it
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Tacachale on August 19, 2012, 02:56:32 PM
Ditto. Who the hell cares? This is the kind of thing we get worked up about?
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: thelakelander on August 19, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
Looks like the made off with some extra cash. Good for them.
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: civil42806 on August 19, 2012, 03:27:26 PM
works for me
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Charles Hunter on August 19, 2012, 04:19:56 PM
I think the problem was that they were wearing (or not) official JFRD gear - a violation of the rules.  Guessing they would not be in so much trouble had they worn civilian clothes.
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: finehoe on August 19, 2012, 05:26:07 PM
Quote from: Charles Hunter on August 19, 2012, 04:19:56 PM
I think the problem was that they were wearing (or not) official JFRD gear - a violation of the rules.  Guessing they would not be in so much trouble had they worn civilian clothes.

Is that why their faces are blurred out?
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Noone on August 19, 2012, 06:33:22 PM
I recognize the star!
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: tufsu1 on August 19, 2012, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 19, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
Looks like the made off with some extra cash. Good for them.

and then lost their jobs!
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: officerk on August 19, 2012, 08:00:30 PM
As I read the story the issue was not the fund raiser itself (which I have no issue with) but that they were wearing their gear.. and in this day of social media the pictures taken from that evening got posted for public viewing..
I agree that it was sad that the fund raiser was deemed necessary and unfortunate that these fire fighters did not realize that having their gear on would have such ramifications...
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: BackinJax05 on August 19, 2012, 08:09:30 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on August 19, 2012, 12:21:29 PM
http://www.wokv.com/gallery/news/local/racy-firefighter-photos/grck/#2172291 (http://www.wokv.com/gallery/news/local/racy-firefighter-photos/grck/#2172291)

Makes me a bit sick to see that a fundraiser is drawn down to this level of striptease.  What say you?

No complaints about picture #4  ;)
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: thelakelander on August 19, 2012, 08:48:55 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on August 19, 2012, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 19, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
Looks like the made off with some extra cash. Good for them.

and then lost their jobs!

That sucks.  I didn't know they lost there jobs.  Can someone post a link to the full article?
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: tufsu1 on August 19, 2012, 09:20:18 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 19, 2012, 08:48:55 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on August 19, 2012, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on August 19, 2012, 03:00:11 PM
Looks like the made off with some extra cash. Good for them.

and then lost their jobs!

That sucks.  I didn't know they lost there jobs.  Can someone post a link to the full article?

I was being a bit dramatic...but they are being reprimanded

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/topstories/article/268814/483/Firefighters-in-racy-pics-to-get-letter-of-reprimand
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Timkin on August 19, 2012, 11:44:10 PM
No complaints about any of the pictures.  Why did they lose their jobs???
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: fsquid on August 20, 2012, 12:06:48 AM
I'd certainly like #4 to put down my fire.
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: officerk on August 20, 2012, 12:33:52 AM
I'm glad to see that all they got was a letter of rep.. but these guys and gals are certainly going to have to be careful as progressive discipline can hurt if they have any future indiscresions.  Hopefully they earned a good bit of $$ for Bishop's family to soften the blow...
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Dog Walker on August 20, 2012, 07:49:43 AM
Nice to see how physically fit our firefighters are!   ;)
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: wsansewjs on August 20, 2012, 09:19:05 AM
Quote from: Dog Walker on August 20, 2012, 07:49:43 AM
Nice to see how physically fit our firefighters are!   ;)

And nice to know that there are few police officers out there that are fat as donuts (Disclaimer: NOT all of them).

-Josh
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: mtraininjax on August 20, 2012, 10:47:06 AM
I do not believe they lost their jobs, there were 6 of them in all, and they all received letters of repremand in their folders, but not firings.

Do what you want on your downtime, just don't wear city issued items when pole dancing.  My only issue.
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Adam W on August 20, 2012, 02:26:51 PM
Considering all the issues the JFRD has had in the past (nooses come to mind), if a bit of harmless striptease is the most we have to worry about these days, then we're doing okay  8)
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Timkin on August 21, 2012, 02:34:17 PM
Quote from: Adam W on August 20, 2012, 02:26:51 PM
Considering all the issues the JFRD has had in the past (nooses come to mind), if a bit of harmless striptease is the most we have to worry about these days, then we're doing okay  8)

Id sure have donated :P   I don't see the harm at all really.
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Non-RedNeck Westsider on August 21, 2012, 02:47:34 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on August 20, 2012, 10:47:06 AM
I do not believe they lost their jobs, there were 6 of them in all, and they all received letters of repremand in their folders, but not firings.

Do what you want on your downtime, just don't wear city issued items when pole dancing.  My only issue.

Kind of prudish, but I get your drift, I think.   ::)

Was their gear being put in any danger while gyrating?  I don't think the city issued the boxers the dudes were wearing.  Obviously, #4 left her JFRD shirt at home, did she only receive half a letter of reprimand?

Let me ask you this, do the cops and firefighters wear their city issued gear to the annual Guns & Hoses?  'nuf said.
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Adam W on August 21, 2012, 05:15:37 PM
Quote from: Timkin on August 21, 2012, 02:34:17 PM
Quote from: Adam W on August 20, 2012, 02:26:51 PM
Considering all the issues the JFRD has had in the past (nooses come to mind), if a bit of harmless striptease is the most we have to worry about these days, then we're doing okay  8)

Id sure have donated :P   I don't see the harm at all really.

I agree. It's a clever idea. If someone had made a movie about it (like "The Full Monty" or "Calendar Girls"), we'd all be singing a different tune.
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Know Growth on August 21, 2012, 11:20:12 PM
Quote from: officerk on August 20, 2012, 12:33:52 AM
  Hopefully they earned a good bit of $$ for Bishop's family to soften the blow...

Indeed they did,enough to pay off a mortgage,establish school fund.  Bravo!!
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: ben says on August 22, 2012, 07:45:03 AM
Who cares if they wore city issued items......or if they were pole dancing....

wtf are you, a Baptist preacher?
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Timkin on August 23, 2012, 12:16:22 AM
Quote from: ben says on August 22, 2012, 07:45:03 AM
Who cares if they wore city issued items......or if they were pole dancing....

wtf are you, a Baptist preacher?

LMAO !    ;)
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: BackinJax05 on August 23, 2012, 12:56:10 AM
I bet there were quite a few Baptist preachers in the crowd that night.

#4 is a real sinner. She needs to have hands laid on her :D & be prayed over  :P until she is SAVED.
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: officerk on August 25, 2012, 12:34:59 AM
Quote from: ben says on August 22, 2012, 07:45:03 AM
Who cares if they wore city issued items......or if they were pole dancing....

wtf are you, a Baptist preacher?

unfortunately the Brass care - anyone who wears any kind of Federal/State/County/City uniform has a code of conduct that they are expected to adhere to.. This is the kind of situation where it is a real biotch - this was not a malicious or nefarious intent situation, in fact - quite the opposite... which is why they probably only got the letter of rep instead of a suspension or something more permanent...

I am glad that they made a good bit of money for the family and in the future various Departments will have to be more careful with fund raisers because of the lesson learned by these guys and gals - next time wear street clothes and accessorize differently!
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: mtraininjax on August 26, 2012, 06:04:15 AM
QuoteLet me ask you this, do the cops and firefighters wear their city issued gear to the annual Guns & Hoses?  'nuf said.

That is a sanctioned event between the two unions, police and fire. There is a difference between that great event and strip teasing for a few bucks at a place that is Hooters with a different name on it. If we hold the police and fire employees to such a high standard, then we expect better than strip teasing with a pole between their legs. As role models in the public, we expect better. If you would rather your public safety personnel act as if they are at the Gold Club, then you are disillusioned over public safety and I would get more interaction from a trash can. So I will not waste any more carbon monoxide on you. I have many friends in both and they would argue the same points. Many were disgusted with the pictures and use of the uniform in such poor taste and piss poor judgement.

QuoteWho cares if they wore city issued items......or if they were pole dancing....
I do, and so do others, why else would this have been a front page issue? Imagine if these same people used poor judgement in trying to save a life as well, because of their other poor decisions, would you think less or more of them? Its not prudish to want to hold your heroes in a higher regard. Otherwise, we should hire anyone to be in the Poe-leese and any swinging chap could double as a Chippendale dancer and fireman.  We should think less of the people who save lives, if it also used for cheap gags. Nice.
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: finehoe on August 26, 2012, 11:49:30 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on August 26, 2012, 06:04:15 AM
Imagine if these same people used poor judgement in trying to save a life as well, because of their other poor decisions, would you think less or more of them?

Imagine if the citizens of Jacksonville would get as bent out of shape about something that really matters as they do about something as trivial as this.
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Tacachale on August 26, 2012, 01:22:57 PM
Quote from: finehoe on August 26, 2012, 11:49:30 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on August 26, 2012, 06:04:15 AM
Imagine if these same people used poor judgement in trying to save a life as well, because of their other poor decisions, would you think less or more of them?

Imagine if the citizens of Jacksonville would get as bent out of shape about something that really matters as they do about something as trivial as this.
+1. This is all behind us, folks can stop acting indignant any time now.
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Non-RedNeck Westsider on August 26, 2012, 01:39:04 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on August 26, 2012, 06:04:15 AM
...So I will not waste any more carbon monoxide on you.

If you don't want to waste CO then you should probably stop talking while you type.   ;)

Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: BackinJax05 on August 26, 2012, 06:38:35 PM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on August 26, 2012, 01:39:04 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on August 26, 2012, 06:04:15 AM
...So I will not waste any more carbon monoxide on you.

If you don't want to waste CO then you should probably stop talking while you type.   ;)

I believe mtraininjax means carbon DIoxide (CO2). Unless he has an internal combustion engine inside of him  :-[
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Timkin on August 26, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
^ :o
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: BackinJax05 on August 27, 2012, 03:27:33 AM
^  :D LOL   :D ^
Title: Re: Nice pictures of the fire fighters at Whiskey River
Post by: Dog Walker on August 27, 2012, 09:37:14 AM
He has always claimed to be a car guy!   ;D