Elements of Urbanism: Cincinnati
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Metro Jacksonville explores the urban core of the Midwest's Queen City: Cincinnati
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http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-jun-elements-of-urbanism-cincinnati
Good stuff Lake. According to Wiki, the Nati's Duke Energy Convention Center was constructed in 1968, and renovated in 06'.
Thanks, I-10.
nice. What was the housing stock like Downtown? do they have thousands of residents? condo towers, etc? just curious because there seems to be a nice concentration of major retailers Downtown.
Aside from the Bengals, WKRP, racism and weird chili, I've not known too much about Cincinatti. From the pictures, it seems to be a pretty nice mid-sized city. In many ways, the pics reminded me a lot of Jacksonville - a more filled-in Jax (perhaps in ways similar to the Jax I moved to in 1979). It also looks a bit like Hartford.
Great stuff!
Great pics. Been to Cincinnati a few times, mostly on 9-10 hour layovers at the airport where I'd have time to get out and explore during the day. Lots of amenities, big retailers, stuff to do, but it's far from a 'pretty' city. Aesthetically, not my thing at all. Plus terrible weather...oy.
It looks like they may have had their growth spurts around the same time Jacksonville did. Like Adam W said, a lot of the downtown street scenes reminded me of Jacksonville, albeit a Jacksonville that hadn't torn down most of its architectural heritage.
I have a very good friend who stays there.... And he hates it. He actually has been trying to move to Jacksonville for quite sometime. He stays outside the city because their crime is extremely bad. Not to mention that the economy is in the toliet up there/ He told me how nice their downtown was and that it fools people from the outside looking in, and thats theres really not much in Cincinatti. But I do want to visit one day though.
I visted back in 1999 or 2000 or so. The DT was nice looking but seemed to be mostly corporate offices. I didn't see much housing stock, but that was still early in the 'move back to the city' national movement. Overall, it made a positive impression.
Quote from: fsujax on June 27, 2012, 09:13:53 AM
nice. What was the housing stock like Downtown? do they have thousands of residents? condo towers, etc? just curious because there seems to be a nice concentration of major retailers Downtown.
Cincinnati' urban core is dense in comparison with Jacksonville's. The amount of demolition that has taken place in the Northbank and surrounding neighborhoods appears to significantly higher than what has taken place in Cincinnati. The housing stock ranges from in-fill mixed use projects to historic rowhomes and conversions of old hotels and office buildings into apartments and condos. Also, Over-the-Rhine is literally across the street and the West End is within walking distance as well.
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Imagine if LaVilla and the Cathedral District would not have suffered the amount of demolitions they did during the mid-to-late 20th century. The majority of the small scale residential projects you see in the images above could have been taking place in and around downtown Jacksonville.
I like that last photo with the corner balconies.
Thanks for the housing pics Lake. I am trying to understand why there seems to be so much retail in Downtown Cincy. I guess having Macy's (Federated Dept Stores) HQ helps. Is it residents, tourists, office workers that allow this retail to thrive in their Downtown? It intrigues me.
Quote from: duvaldude08 on June 27, 2012, 10:12:28 AM
I have a very good friend who stays there.... And he hates it. He actually has been trying to move to Jacksonville for quite sometime. He stays outside the city because their crime is extremely bad. Not to mention that the economy is in the toliet up there/ He told me how nice their downtown was and that it fools people from the outside looking in, and thats theres really not much in Cincinatti. But I do want to visit one day though.
That's pretty much what I hear, as well.
^As of 2010, they had 7,214 downtown residents and an additional 5,238 in neighborhoods immediately adjacent to the CBD.
http://www.urbancincy.com/2010/05/downtown-cincinnati-experiences-strong-progress-during-recession/
In addition to this, there are 60,000 workers and they have the same cultural and entertainment venues (ex. stadiums, river, convention center, etc.) that we do but those facilities are situated in a more compact setting, creating a critical mass of pedestrian scale activity to stimulate a market that can support additional retail. So that downtown Macy's is being supported by a mix of office workers, tourist, residents, etc. Until we can either reconnect our downtown with the surrounding urban population base or build pedestrian scale density and interactivity, we'll struggle to create such a market.
In essence, we aren't that far apart in the amount of amenities offered. The major difference is they've situated these things in a compact pedestrian scale setting.
Quote from: ben says on June 27, 2012, 11:16:51 AM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on June 27, 2012, 10:12:28 AM
I have a very good friend who stays there.... And he hates it. He actually has been trying to move to Jacksonville for quite sometime. He stays outside the city because their crime is extremely bad. Not to mention that the economy is in the toliet up there/ He told me how nice their downtown was and that it fools people from the outside looking in, and thats theres really not much in Cincinatti. But I do want to visit one day though.
That's pretty much what I hear, as well.
I've heard the exact opposite, so I guess it depends on the type of environment you're comfortable with and the cultural circles one prefers. I have a business partner who has lived/worked in Atlanta, Cincinnati and Indianapolis in recent years and the one he can't stand is Indianapolis. It's not culturally diverse in the urban core areas found in Atlanta and Cincinnati. According to him, outside of Indy's compact downtown and perhaps Broad Ripple, there's no decent districts like Mount Adams, UC, Clifton, Walnut Hills, etc. (Cincy's versions of Jax's Shops of Avondale, Five Points, San Marco Square, etc.) He's counting down the days that he can get out of Indiana.
You make my old city look good! Everyone should keep in mind that The Banks development took over 15 years to come together. I was there for a Reds game earlier this month and the new additions are great. Before the retail arrived, there was nothing to do before or after a ballgame. Also the Underground Freedom Center is having its share of financial problems (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20111218/NEWS01/312180027/Freedom-Center-could-close).
Like Jacksonville, many Hamilton County residents live and work away from Downtown, and don't want to be on the hook for downtown enhancements like the streetcar. It would have been nice to ride when I was there to go from the University of Cincinnati (Uptown) down to games and events in downtown. Any resident of Clifton will tell you the commute up and down Vine st. through OTR can be a little scary after dark.
Quote from: bigcraiginjax on June 27, 2012, 11:26:51 AM
You make my old city look good! Everyone should keep in mind that The Banks development took over 15 years to come together. I was there for a Reds game earlier this month and the new additions are great. Before the retail arrived, there was nothing to do before or after a ballgame. Also the Underground Freedom Center is having its share of financial problems (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20111218/NEWS01/312180027/Freedom-Center-could-close).
Like Jacksonville, many Hamilton County residents live and work away from Downtown, and don't want to be on the hook for downtown enhancements like the streetcar. It would have been nice to ride when I was there to go from the University of Cincinnati (Uptown) down to games and events in downtown. Any resident of Clifton will tell you the commute up and down Vine st. through OTR can be a little scary after dark.
I have noticed alot of Ohio Natives either relocate to Jax, or is trying to relocate to Jax. What do you think the attraction is? I have one friend who stays in Cincy and is trying to get down here, once who stays here and is from Cleveland, and have randomly meet several others from Ohio.
Quote from: duvaldude08 on June 27, 2012, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: bigcraiginjax on June 27, 2012, 11:26:51 AM
You make my old city look good! Everyone should keep in mind that The Banks development took over 15 years to come together. I was there for a Reds game earlier this month and the new additions are great. Before the retail arrived, there was nothing to do before or after a ballgame. Also the Underground Freedom Center is having its share of financial problems (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20111218/NEWS01/312180027/Freedom-Center-could-close).
Like Jacksonville, many Hamilton County residents live and work away from Downtown, and don't want to be on the hook for downtown enhancements like the streetcar. It would have been nice to ride when I was there to go from the University of Cincinnati (Uptown) down to games and events in downtown. Any resident of Clifton will tell you the commute up and down Vine st. through OTR can be a little scary after dark.
I have noticed alot of Ohio Natives either relocate to Jax, or is trying to relocate to Jax. What do you think the attraction is? I have one friend who stays in Cincy and is trying to get down here, once who stays here and is from Cleveland, and have randomly meet several others from Ohio.
There are a lot of similarities to Cincinnati and Jacksonville. The river and distinct neighborhoods come to mind. Also Cincinnati is only 800 miles from Jax--driveable in one day for diehards, and easy to break up into two days if necessary (Asheville, NC is about halfway). You still get a little taste of seasons here in North Florida, but no shoveling of snow and you actually get to see the sun in February. Ohioans drive 12 hours to get to the ocean--to have it so close now spoils me. Add in the 'no state income tax' incentive and it makes a lot of sense to Ohioans. While I miss things like Graeter's Ice Cream (though it's now available at publix) the Reds and Skyline Chili, it would take a tremendous offer to make me want to go back to Ohio.
Ohio in the winter is a pretty sunless place, from my limited experience.
Quote from: thelakelander on June 27, 2012, 11:25:02 AM
Quote from: ben says on June 27, 2012, 11:16:51 AM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on June 27, 2012, 10:12:28 AM
I have a very good friend who stays there.... And he hates it. He actually has been trying to move to Jacksonville for quite sometime. He stays outside the city because their crime is extremely bad. Not to mention that the economy is in the toliet up there/ He told me how nice their downtown was and that it fools people from the outside looking in, and thats theres really not much in Cincinatti. But I do want to visit one day though.
That's pretty much what I hear, as well.
I've heard the exact opposite, so I guess it depends on the type of environment you're comfortable with and the cultural circles one prefers. I have a business partner who has lived/worked in Atlanta, Cincinnati and Indianapolis in recent years and the one he can't stand is Indianapolis. It's not culturally diverse in the urban core areas found in Atlanta and Cincinnati. According to him, outside of Indy's compact downtown and perhaps Broad Ripple, there's no decent districts like Mount Adams, UC, Clifton, Walnut Hills, etc. (Cincy's versions of Jax's Shops of Avondale, Five Points, San Marco Square, etc.) He's counting down the days that he can get out of Indiana.
I personally think the entire area is kinda blah. I have a lot of experience with all of the larger cities around there, but while living in Lexington, Cincy was our closest "big city" for bar hopping, day trips or big concerts at Riverbend (which is an awesome venue BTW). But the town itself isn't anything special at all. There's little to no vibe or uniqueness, a lot of it is ugly IMO & there's not a lot of opportunities (not to mention their economy is kind of in the toilet, as is a lot of OH). Even though they technically have more going on than us downtown, I'd still pick Jax overall I think as our urban neighborhoods are better & there's more to do (with better weather obviously).
Now, Louisville or Nashville would be a different story. :)
What do you think about Columbus? I'm planning to stop through there this weekend on my drive up to Detroit. Other cities on my pending roadtrip include Charlotte, Knoxville and Chicago.
Quote from: thelakelander on June 27, 2012, 03:35:50 PM
What do you think about Columbus? I'm planning to stop through there this weekend on my drive up to Detroit. Other cities on my pending roadtrip include Charlotte, Knoxville and Chicago.
I didn't spend as much time in Columbus as Cincinnati, but I found Columbus to be much more vanilla and boring. Also very flat. A huge university surrounded by a typical midwestern city. COSI is great for kids though.
Whatever Cincinnati is or isn't, THEY are doing something about it and we are not... IE: STREETCAR. This will jump start a connective-sustainable-walkable building boom. Meanwhile in Jacksonville, we have a moratorium on progress, and idiots in the city who think a new Mickey D's downtown or a 7-11 is a bold step forward.
TIME TO PULL YOUR HEAD OUT JACKSONVILLE, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE OZONE.
Lake, try Dayton and the electric trolley bus system...
These pictures aren't peeking my interest to visit Cincy like other Elements of Urbanism threads...liked the OTR photo thread, but Cincy's DT looks pretty dead/bad, even with all the historic remnants.
Simms3, Cincinnati is definitely a city of neighborhoods. The best places aren't downtown. Here are some images from random neighborhoods outside of downtown, OTR and West End:
University of Cincinnati
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Avondale
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Mount Adams
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Clifton
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Quote from: Ocklawaha on June 27, 2012, 05:38:42 PM
Lake, try Dayton and the electric trolley bus system...
I stopped there too. Coming soon to an elements of urbanism thread near you.....
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Quote from: bigcraiginjax on June 27, 2012, 04:04:45 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on June 27, 2012, 03:35:50 PM
What do you think about Columbus? I'm planning to stop through there this weekend on my drive up to Detroit. Other cities on my pending roadtrip include Charlotte, Knoxville and Chicago.
I didn't spend as much time in Columbus as Cincinnati, but I found Columbus to be much more vanilla and boring. Also very flat. A huge university surrounded by a typical midwestern city. COSI is great for kids though.
I passed through downtown Columbus yesterday and explored the area for two hours. Maybe I caught it at the right time but I was very impressed with the amount of foot traffic. It's a place I'm going to have to come back and spend more time in. Here are a few random shots:
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Bill Brinton would suffer a massive heart attack if this were allowed in Jacksonville. Look how disgusting and ugly that corner looks with all those lively signs and markers. Ewwww I'm sure it's got to be one of the seediest corners in the city because it's lit up and activated.
Quote from: thelakelander on July 01, 2012, 01:34:58 PM
I passed through downtown Columbus yesterday and explored the area for two hours. Maybe I caught it at the right time but I was very impressed with the amount of foot traffic. It's a place I'm going to have to come back and spend more time in. Here are a few random shots:
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Lol, I thought the same thing. What stood out the most to me was this city has evidently figured out how to mix history and modern architecture within the same compact environment. It's hard to see some of these buildings and their signs being approved in Jax.
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Quote from: thelakelander on June 27, 2012, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on June 27, 2012, 05:38:42 PM
Lake, try Dayton and the electric trolley bus system...
I stopped there too. Coming soon to an elements of urbanism thread near you.....
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It will be interesting to compare the ridership data on the trolley lines as opposed to diesel routes. My money is on the trolley system. I'm looking forward to this article Lake, Thanks!
Now About Columbus, Cincinnati, Ohio and Indiana in general...
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In case any of the Jurassic minded planners in Jacksonville wonder why our downtown doesn't look like some of these midwest cities, take a look at their Interurban map. Those that don't know what an interurban is/was think streetcar line that out grew it's city and spread across a region. Often with high speed (90+ mph) 'trains' which doubled as school bus, milk truck, mail delivery and news paper service as well as a deluxe passenger accommodation. Jacksonville was in the center of no less then a half dozen 'Interurban' plans, none of which ever happened... Maybe THAT is what they designed those streets in Avondale for??
QuoteDepot's day, 80 years later
Siblings recall Canal Winchester rail stop as it gets historical marker
By Elizabeth Gibson
The Columbus Dispatch Saturday May 22, 2010 8:14 AM
Bill Boving, 87, and his sister, Dorothy Boving Hockman, 89, were among the last passengers on Scioto Valley Traction Line, which they rode from the Canal Winchester depot to Lancaster. They stand outside the restored depot beside a photo taken that day in 1930 in Lancaster.
Eighty years ago, George and Dorothy Boving came home from school and were told by their father to go straight to the depot.
"We didn't hesitate to do what our dad told us to do," Mr. Boving said yesterday. "We really just sat there on the train, but I think our dad kind of realized it was historic."
What their father realized - and they didn't - was that it was the last ride on the Scioto Valley Traction Line for the interurban, an electric passenger railroad that was the light-rail system of its time.
The seats were comfortable and the carriage wasn't noisy, Mr. Boving said.
Waiting at the end of the line in Lancaster was their mother and baby brother, and several hundred people who then saw off the car as it headed back toward Columbus.
They stepped off the train and posed with other passengers for a photo.
Yesterday, an enlarged copy of that picture was on display at the dedication of a historic marker at the Canal Winchester Interurban Depot.
In it, Dorothy, 10, is looking off to the side, holding 8-year-old George's hand.
Mr. Boving, now 87, and his sister, Dorothy Boving Hockman, 89, attended the ceremony at the depot in Canal Winchester.
Mr. Boving even donned a white cap, shorts and high socks similar to those he's wearing in the photo as a child.
The station opened in 1904, but the rise of the automobile eventually drove the interurban into obsolescence, rail historian Alex Campbell said.
When the last car traveled in 1930, Columbus' population, now more than 1 million people in the metropolitan area, had grown to a whopping 290,564 people.
The interurban, with cars that could top 60 mph, brought Columbus closer to outlying farm towns, Campbell said.
The Scioto track started Downtown, wound through German Village and out to Obetz. There, it spilt into two lines, with one bound for Lancaster and the other for Chillicothe.
Hockman said she remembers riding it to a little red schoolhouse every day in the first grade.
One rainy morning, she showed up at the station and the tall girl who normally pulled the handle to signal the car to stop for them wasn't there. She couldn't reach high enough, and the interurban passed by. Just as she began to cry, the train stopped and backed up.
Another girl had told the conductor that he had to go back for Dorothy.
When the interurban stopped running, the old Canal Winchester depot, behind 20 S. High St., was transformed into offices for a power company.
But the village bought the building in 2002, deciding to restore the depot to its original gray brick with a red tile roof and bright-white trim. Canal Winchester has spent $123,000 on the project, although some of that has come from donations and grants, Mayor Michael Ebert said.
"It's our intention to bring back some of the feel of a day gone by," he said.
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Columbus Interurban Electric Railway Terminal, with streetcar tracks in the foreground, circa 1906. In spite of my Great Uncle Goodrich toying with vulcanization of rubber for automobiles, it's apparent that the curvilinear streets of Columbus weren't designed for the automobile either!
Columbus Interurbans - 1895-1939
Columbus was a hub of interurban travel in the early twentieth century. A line to Westerville, built in 1895 was the first Columbus interurban. Eight others soon followed. Most of the lines were gone by the early 1930's with only the Cincinnati & Lake Erie Railroad lasting until 1939. The various companies were constantly going through reorganization, purchase, merger and name change. The list of the nine original companies, that served Columbus, is found here with the barest of histories to get a start in the Columbus' interurban story.
Ohio had more interurban mileage than any other state in the union except perhaps California.
The Big Players
Columbus London & Springfield Railway- 1902-1939, Standard Gauge, 44 miles from Columbus to London, West Jefferson, and Springfield. This line would be purchased several times evolving into the Indiana Columbus and Eastern Traction Company (1906), the Ohio Electric (1907), the IC&ET again (1918) and finally the Cincinnati & Lake Erie Railroad 1929-1939.
Columbus Buckeye Lake and Newark Traction Co.- 1902-1929, Standard Gauge, 34 miles from Columbus to Reynoldsburg, Kirkersville, Hebron and Newark with a branch from Hebron to Buckeye Lake. In 1904 the Columbus, Newark & Zanesville was built from Newark-Zanesville, 30 miles. It acquired the CBL&N in 1906. It became part of the Ohio Electric in 1907 and back to CN&Z ownership in 1918.
Columbus Delaware & Marion Railway- 1903-1933, Standard Gauge, 50 miles long from Columbus to Worthington, Flint, Lewis Center, Stratford, Delaware, Radnor, Prospect, Owens, Marion and through its subsidiary Bucyrus.
Scioto Valley Traction Company- 1904-1930, Standard Gauge - third rail, 47 miles long from Columbus to Valley Crossing, Obetz Junction, Lockbourne, Circleville, and Chillicothe with a 24 mile branch from Obetz Junction to Groveport, Canal Winchester, and Lancaster.
The Small Players:
Columbus Grove City and Southwestern- 1898-1922, Standard Gauge, 15 miles from Columbus to Grove City and Orient. The line would become part of the Indiana Columbus and Eastern Traction Company (1906), the Ohio Electric(1907), the IC&ET again (1918).
Columbus Urbana & Western Railway- 1903-1925, Standard Gauge, 9 miles long from Columbus to Fishinger's Bridge.
Lines Purchased by the Columbus Streetcar Company
Columbus Central Street Railway- 1895-1900 [estimated] when the line was sold to the Columbus Railway & Light Co. Wide gauge (5' 2"), about 11 miles long from Columbus to Minerva Park and Westerville. Service to Westerville was discontinued in 1929.
Columbus New Albany and Johnstown Traction Company- 1901-1923 when it was sold to the Columbus Railway Power & Light Co. Wide gage (5' 2"), 6 miles long from Columbus to Sheppards, Ralston Steel Car Co. and Gahanna. Service to Gahanna was discontinued 1928.
A Privately Owned Line
Ohio & Southern Traction Company- 1907-1929, Standard Gauge, 6.8 miles from Columbus to the Hartman Stock Farm and Shadeville. Privately owned by Dr. Samuel B. Hartman.
Here you go Lake, unfortunately, Cincinnati has a record as bad as ours and many of these buildings are now gone.
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Location of carbarns and shops at the corner of 20th and Madison in Covington, Kentucky, looking southwest. The pole in the center is pictured in the Trolley Poles section, and the curved crack in the street on the left is pictured in the Revealed Tracks section.
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Behind a fence is the main entrance to the Avondale carbarn. The tracks are barely visible under the pavement. Demolished in 2012
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The Avondale carbarn as seen from the McMillan Street Overpass. Note the damage to the building at the right, caused by a fire.
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Carbarn on Brighton Street in Newport, Kentucky, looking northwest.
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Old Cincinnati Car Company building on Mitchell Avenue in Winton Place, looking southeast across Mitchell. This building has since been demolished, leaving no trace of the shops or car company buildings that once flanked both sides of Mitchell north of Spring Grove Avenue.
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CINCINNATI-CAR-COMPANY - where many Jacksonville streetcars were born! demolished
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Depot Street carbarn, across the street from the State Avenue shops and power substation, looking southeast.
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Harrison Av. Carbarn, Cincinnati, demolished
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Brighton carbarns on Harrison Avenue, taken in 1983 before the complex was demolished.
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Detail of the carbarn on Lowell Street in Newport, Kentucky, looking southwest.
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Carbarn on Lowell Street in Newport, Kentucky, looking northwest.
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Brighton St. Carbarn, Newport, KY
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State Avenue shops, looking northeast at the corner of State Avenue and Dutton Street in Lower Price Hill.
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State Avenue shops, looking west along Dutton Street in Lower Price Hill.
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State Avenue shops, looking northwest at the corner of Depot and Dutton Streets in Lower Price Hill.
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Streetcar tracks entering the Avondale carbarn, looking east across Kinsey Avenue, Reading Road is in the distance.
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East End offices, looking northeast from Eastern Avenue. The old PRR line is just behind this building.
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Old cable car house on Gilbert Avenue at Sinton Avenue in Walnut Hills, looking northwest.
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Cable car barn at the corner of Highland and Dorchester Avenues in Mt. Auburn, looking northwest. The stone section is from the original carbarn that burned down in 1892. The brick parts were built after the fire. This building was used by the Mt. Auburn Cable Railway, which operated cable cars along Highland Avenue to downtown from 1887 to 1902.
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Old cable car house on Gilbert Avenue at Sinton Avenue in Walnut Hills, looking northwest. This building was the main cable pulling house for the Mt. Adams & Eden Park Railway. It operated cable cars from 1885 to 1898. Also note the buried tracks in the foreground, pointing towards the building.
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Old carbarn on Sycamore Street, at the end of Orchard Street in Over-the-Rhine, looking east. This building was used by the Cincinnati Inclined Plane Railway, who also operated the Mt. Auburn Incline.
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Carbarn on Lowell Street in Newport, Kentucky, looking southwest. The new bridge for 11th/12th Streets over the Licking River is overhead. The now demolished Shortway Bridge is visible at the lower right.
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CSR Winton Shops along Mitchell Avenue shortly before demolition in late November 1992.
That's some kind of ELECTRIC CITY isn't it!
OCKLAWAHA
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Silly me. I passed this building and thought it looked pretty large for an old fire station.....
Headed to Cincy in September for some baseball games. Looking forward to it, staying downtown and will send back my info. I have stayed in Columbus the last few years in June for the Golf Tournament, nice town, nice roads, nothing like I remember of midwest roads when the snow causes the joints to expand and contract so often the DOT puts down whatever it can to protect the joints. Great pictures, will report back what I find in the Cincy version of Avondale.
Pretty fantastic so far, I liked the drive from the Airport, past Covington, KY as you go down this steep hill, you see the queen city in all its glory, staying at the Radisson downtown, Abe Lincoln has a statue in Lytle Park, and headed to the Reds/Bucs in a few hours. The downtown fountain area is cool, Macy's had a great sale on shorts, as it appears to be getting cooler here, each pair was 15 bucks (DEAL!), so we are having fun, looking forward to the street party on the 3 blocks from the hotel to the stadium. Want to go to the Blue Wisp Jazz club later this week while here. Should be fun. Anyone got any Cincy tips?