QuoteA fire has destroyed two Five Points restaurants, including a Firehouse Subs location, Monday morning. A gas station attendant said someone came in to report a fire at the plaza about 3:40 a.m.
full article: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-06-18/story/jacksonville-restaurants-firehouse-subs-wasabi-buffet-destroyed-five
Quote from: thelakelander on June 18, 2012, 06:48:22 AM
QuoteA fire has destroyed two Five Points restaurants, including a Firehouse Subs location, Monday morning. A gas station attendant said someone came in to report a fire at the plaza about 3:40 a.m.
full article: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-06-18/story/jacksonville-restaurants-firehouse-subs-wasabi-buffet-destroyed-five
Call me crass, but thank god it was Firehouse/Wasabi and not LGS/Sake House. Food aside, I'd be much sadder if those buildings went up in flames than the buildings housing Firehouse/Wasabi. Not to mention Wasabi is disgusting and the day after a fire is probably the cleanest this establishment has ever been.
That sucks. At least no one was hurt.
I've heard from several friends that work in the area that they witnessed two dudes running to get into a black car. With the recent closing due to health violations, the whole thing is fishy. Not a huge loss to the community, however. That place was rank.
Quote from: RiversideLoki on June 18, 2012, 08:27:05 AM
[T]he whole thing is fishy. Not a huge loss to the community, however. That place was rank.
Exactly what I was getting at. Conversely, I'd be pretty upset it the buildings housing Sake House and LGS went up.
"the day after a fire is probably the cleanest this establishment has ever been."
I spit my coffee clear across the room. Thanks for the laugh Ben!
I loved getting there at 11:30a and everything was just luke warm. Came out of the cooler at 8am and was just reaching room temp.
What was the name of the Chinese rest. that was in the corner for years with Sub-spot out front?
Serious kudos to JFRD. Some very lucky homeowners on the backside!
That was an intense fire, the whole end of the building collapsed.
http://jacksonville.com/slideshows/slides-news/jacksonville-fire-destroys-wasabi-buffet-damages-firehouse-subs#slide=0
Looks like that whole section is a total loss. I wonder of the rest of the complex has suffered any metal fatigue or anything like that.
I guess this will cause a significant change to their pending PUD and COA applications.
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/Other/Wasabi-Fire/i-QTp3f96/0/L/photo-22-L.jpg)
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/Other/Wasabi-Fire/i-XvPgVnj/0/L/photo-21-L.jpg)
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/Other/Wasabi-Fire/i-rNsMtzt/0/L/photo-23-L.jpg)
As of an hour ago, JFRD was still pouring water into the shell of the building. The fire was intense enough to cause the steel beams of the roof to soften and sag.
The news stories said that the fire wall between Firehouse Subs and Hot Wok kept the fire from spreading to the rest of the stores in the strip.
I feel bad for the people who woke up today without jobs, but you couldn't have paid me to eat there.
Quote from: 5ptscurmudgeon on June 18, 2012, 08:41:24 AM
"the day after a fire is probably the cleanest this establishment has ever been."
I spit my coffee clear across the room. Thanks for the laugh Ben!
I did too. LOL. I am sorry that people are without jobs because of this, but that line was hilarious .
I used to live on Forbes Street, a couple of houses down from Wasabi. We would walk down the sidewalk to 5 points and have to step over all the trash they'd pile outside the door to the kitchen. It would reek of rotting seafood. You could see into the kitchen and it was disgusting. I could never eat there after that.
The guy who owned it ended up buying the building I lived in to (supposedly) house his employees. They used to all show up and leave work together in a white van. I always suspected at least some of them were illegal.
I'm not sorry to see the place go. It sucks that people lost their jobs as a result, but maybe this will lead to some sort of redevelopment. At the very least, it would be nice to see the strip mall get an image overhaul.
Maybe a new place will come along and regularly dump their grease out on the sidewalk.
Never ate at Wasabiâ€"I'm loathe of buffets in general. What's weird for me, personally, is that I live on Forbes, just a few blocks away. I slept through this entire thing.
Good riddance! What a tragic dump. I'd love for the entire strip to be leveled and redeveloped as a mixed use, multi level development with ground floor retail. It's in such a prime location to be such a waste of potential.
(That said, it's sad to hear of the job losses, but luckily there's Mellow Mushroom and Tijuana Flats...I'm sure they will be hiring soon!)
Wow. Everyone should go see the destruction in person. It's pretty dramatic. At least it wasn't a historic structure!
What would everyone like to see go in here? I wish there were more condo units for professionals like me that work in the Brooklyn area. The number of people that work in the LPS, Fidelity, EverBank, and BlueCross buildings is in the thousands, but they probably don't live nearby. Then again, Five Points is turning into the "Margaret Street District", so more high-quality commercial space would probably be successful.
I think there is an opportunity here for something much better to come along. Problem is Sleiman owns the shopping center.
Quote from: fsujax on June 18, 2012, 01:16:50 PM
I think there is an opportunity here for something much better to come along. Problem is Sleiman owns the shopping center.
Sounds about right.
Quote from: fsujax on June 18, 2012, 01:16:50 PM
I think there is an opportunity here for something much better to come along. Problem is Sleiman owns the shopping center.
I doubt that this would result in the whole plaza being torn down. If it were , a nice replacement restaurant would be great there.
Quote from: fsujax on June 18, 2012, 01:16:50 PM
I think there is an opportunity here for something much better to come along. Problem is Sleiman owns the shopping center.
I googled Sleiman and I see that he's a suburban-style developer. Is that what you mean?
Quote from: BrooklynSouth on June 18, 2012, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: fsujax on June 18, 2012, 01:16:50 PM
I think there is an opportunity here for something much better to come along. Problem is Sleiman owns the shopping center.
I googled Sleiman and I see that he's a suburban-style developer. Is that what you mean?
The Sleimans primarily (though not exclusively) specialize in strip malls and similar suburban-style shopping centers. It seems unlikely that they would replace this strip mall with something better, especially if part of the current building can be saved.
Perhaps the fire was caused by catastrophic irony? No disrespect to the owners of the lost businesses, but the example always given to explain the concept of irony is "the firehouse burned down".
Yes.
Quote from: BrooklynSouth on June 18, 2012, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: fsujax on June 18, 2012, 01:16:50 PM
I think there is an opportunity here for something much better to come along. Problem is Sleiman owns the shopping center.
I googled Sleiman and I see that he's a suburban-style developer. Is that what you mean?
I would expect another lame strip mall reconstructed in the exact spot.
so would I.
That stipid stripmall doesn't belong in five points anyway. But at least on one side you can walk directly onto the mall from the sidewalk without having to navagate across a busy parking lot. That's more than I can say for any stripmalls on ss.
They should tear down the rest of the mall and replace it with a five story apartment building. And the current businesses can occuipy the first floor. There's a convienent store, a laundry mat and another Chinese resturuant. Perfect businesses for an urban apartment building!
Quote from: urbaknight on June 18, 2012, 04:00:22 PM
That stipid stripmall doesn't belong in five points anyway. But at least on one side you can walk directly onto the mall from the sidewalk without having to navagate across a busy parking lot. That's more than I can say for any stripmalls on ss.
They should tear down the rest of the mall and replace it with a five story apartment building. And the current businesses can occuipy the first floor. There's a convienent store, a laundry mat and another Chinese resturuant. Perfect businesses for an urban apartment building!
Amen!!!
I just drove by, BrooklynSouth is right, it's a mess! And awww maaaannnn the Trop is closed too. Where am I gonna get my sixers of Old Chub and my Naan bread?!
Quote from: RiversideLoki on June 18, 2012, 05:21:40 PM
I just drove by, BrooklynSouth is right, it's a mess! And awww maaaannnn the Trop is closed too. Where am I gonna get my sixers of Old Chub and my Naan bread?!
The trop sels naan?!?!?! Excuse me?
Some of these posts on here makes me cringe. They aren't even worthy of acknowledging. I thought that MJ was more mature than this, but I was wrong SMH.
Quote from: I-10east on June 18, 2012, 07:25:37 PM
Some of these posts on here makes me cringe. They aren't even worthy of acknowledging. I thought that MJ was more mature than this, but I was wrong SMH.
While I agree that it's tragic that people lost their jobs, It's equally tragic that the hearsay points to the whole thing being done intentionally. I find it absolutely appropriate to mock the situation given light to the information that is currently circulating.
But absolutely no one was hurt physically.
You can't tell me you've actually ever wanted to eat there with open eyes after seeing the place yourself. And you can't tell me with a straight face that shortly after the guy short sales the building behind it and that there were people witnessed jumping into a car right before the place went up in flames that it isn't fishy.
If anything of value was lost in this whole ordeal, it's the expensive soda machine at Firehouse. Other than that, a prime piece of real estate just went up on the market.
I feel for anyone losing their job. I never dined at Wasabi so I cannot speak to it's cleanliness, or any of that. I was merely amused at a line Ben said this morning but in finding humor in the statement, it certainly is not to say that I don't feel for the owners of the businesses or the employees. And thank god, no one was hurt because they certainly could have been.
Other than that , we can hope it gets better from here.
Wow! :o I just got back from a bike ride and it looked like a cross between an oven and a burnt out theatre.
At the very least it can be rebuilt 2-story with some usable walk-up clinic space or something.
Naan? i know they had fairly fresh Pita bread and I cant find the damn label that has been around my computer for months ...local bakery.
Wasabi buffet was a dump in a dump building. Went there two times. Once the food wasn't even luke warm. There were frozen spots in the middle and freezer burn on the wonton (crab rangoon or whatever). Second time there was rat feces under the buffet line. Yes, people losing their job sucks. But this place was skirting the line between a restaurant/business and a public health hazard. Not to mention the owner dumping shit all over the sidewalks, stinking up the hood, and housing a bunch of workers (who he couldn't even pay a good wage) a house away. You reap what you sow.
Firehouse is a multi-billion dollar corporation. They call these kind of things, in this case a fire, an externality. Chump change. They'll come back and be fine. Knowing those kind of corporations, their employees will be taken care of.
Sleiman...another example of you reap what you sow. Hopefully he gets the memo: time for the building to go. Moving on people...
Hopefully, just hopefully, some good can come of this. Tear the whole thing down and building a solid multi-purpose building. Retail on the bottom, maybe a floor or two of office, and a few floors of lofts or nice apartments.
No argument here. Might as well since it appears half of it is toast.
Finally, the food is cooked and the pathogens are neutralized.
Quote:
"What would everyone like to see go in here? I wish there were more condo units for professionals like me that work in the Brooklyn area."
Try the John Gorrie. 4-5 blocks away. Brand new never lived in Historic Renovation. Qualifies for 10 year tax
reduction.
Hey Ernest Street, the pita bakery might be Farhat's over on Old St. Augustine. Nearest to 5 Points they sell their pitas at Pinegrove Deli and Lakeshore Produce.
Lets just 'hope' this trend continues (if some of you get yall way) concerning Jax arson fires in non-urban developments in the city, so with a wing & a prayer that they hopefully can be redeveloped for 'better use', ya know highly urbanized mixed development etc. ::)
Some of yall need to take that decorative towering spire off the head, even if Wasabi food was awful, that space could have been put to better use with another restaurant, and not to mention the Firehouse Subs that was there, so this isn't a good situation either way you look at it. Hypothetically, if a large part of the STJC caught on fire, Yay!!!! it isn't urban, so throw a party!!!! ::)
Quote from: MusicMan on June 18, 2012, 11:21:12 PM
Quote:
"What would everyone like to see go in here? I wish there were more condo units for professionals like me that work in the Brooklyn area."
Try the John Gorrie. 4-5 blocks away. Brand new never lived in Historic Renovation. Qualifies for 10 year tax
reduction.
I'd love to live in the JG, but the prices are too high. How many people live in there...2? Eventually it'll go on the auction block. Then I'll look again.
Quote from: cayohueso on June 18, 2012, 11:42:03 PM
Hey Ernest Street, the pita bakery might be Farhat's over on Old St. Augustine. Nearest to 5 Points they sell their pitas at Pinegrove Deli and Lakeshore Produce.
I hear there's a killer pita bakery over on Merrill Road (I think). Was just wondering if it was the same guy. Guess not.
It's amazing how these threads get off topic.....back to the fire!!
Drove by this morning and there is already a fence around the damaged area and a construction dumpster so it looks like they're already starting cleanup. I assume so they can rebuild another strip mall.
Quote from: I-10east on June 19, 2012, 05:41:43 AM
Hypothetically, if a large part of the STJC caught on fire, Yay!!!! it isn't urban, so throw a party!!!! ::)
Wouldn't hurt my feelings any if the whole damn place went up :o
Y'all a hypersensitive bunch. Both sides of this argument.
Anyway, I, too, hope a multistory condo goes up. As long as they don't serve liquor on premises, there'll be no need to make room for parking. We all win!
I BET THE REPUBLICANS SET IT ON FIRE. EVERYTHING ON THIS WEBSITE IS THE FAULT OF REPUBLICANS!!!!
Quote from: Timkin on June 19, 2012, 11:00:19 AM
Quote from: I-10east on June 19, 2012, 05:41:43 AM
Hypothetically, if a large part of the STJC caught on fire, Yay!!!! it isn't urban, so throw a party!!!! ::)
Wouldn't hurt my feelings any if the whole damn place went up :o
Whoa, there's a shocker! :o
Baptists burned it down as the place became a hotbed of atheist-homosexual-socialist homeless bums. All businesses in the King Street district take notice.
Quote:
"I'd love to live in the JG, but the prices are too high. How many people live in there...2? Eventually it'll go on the auction block. Then I'll look again."
FYI they are, except for two units at The Avenues, the best priced condos in all Riverside-Avondale. You may still consider them priced to high, but compared to the units they are competing with, they are priced correctly. They also boast the lowest HOA of any community in RAP. (And don't forget the 10 year tax break.)
Also, last time I checked they were owned (free and clear) by The Weavers, so if you are anticipating them to "go on the auction block" I think you are mistaken.
Quote from: MusicMan on June 19, 2012, 12:49:23 PM
Quote:
"I'd love to live in the JG, but the prices are too high. How many people live in there...2? Eventually it'll go on the auction block. Then I'll look again."
FYI they are, except for two units at The Avenues, the best priced condos in all Riverside-Avondale. You may still consider them priced to high, but compared to the units they are competing with, they are priced correctly. They also boast the lowest HOA of any community in RAP. (And don't forget the 10 year tax break.)
Also, last time I checked they were owned (free and clear) by The Weavers, so if you are anticipating them to "go on the auction block" I think you are mistaken.
Again, I apologize to all for going off topic. But, I must ask, where to you see JG in the next five to ten years? I have it on good authority that they've sold 2 in 2 years (let's say that authority is wrong...the most I've ever heard quoting as selling is 4-5). I don't care how rich the Weavers are, I just don't see them sitting on it into eternity.
Quote from: ben says on June 19, 2012, 01:28:30 PM
Quote from: MusicMan on June 19, 2012, 12:49:23 PM
Quote:
"I'd love to live in the JG, but the prices are too high. How many people live in there...2? Eventually it'll go on the auction block. Then I'll look again."
FYI they are, except for two units at The Avenues, the best priced condos in all Riverside-Avondale. You may still consider them priced to high, but compared to the units they are competing with, they are priced correctly. They also boast the lowest HOA of any community in RAP. (And don't forget the 10 year tax break.)
Also, last time I checked they were owned (free and clear) by The Weavers, so if you are anticipating them to "go on the auction block" I think you are mistaken.
Again, I apologize to all for going off topic. But, I must ask, where to you see JG in the next five to ten years? I have it on good authority that they've sold 2 in 2 years (let's say that authority is wrong...the most I've ever heard quoting as selling is 4-5). I don't care how rich the Weavers are, I just don't see them sitting on it into eternity.
Just that the Weavers took the time and had the resources and respect to take on John Gorrie is so Heartening. I wish there were more folks like them who took their example. Perhaps we would see many of our landmark structures such as Gorrie, continue to be used in a reasonable and practical way.
As to where it is headed... I think it depends on the economy, the Real Estate Market and job opportunities in the Jacksonville area in the future.
Personally I think the Weavers took this on , realizing it would take a long time, if ever, to break even. My hat is off to them .
Quote from: Timkin on June 19, 2012, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: ben says on June 19, 2012, 01:28:30 PM
Quote from: MusicMan on June 19, 2012, 12:49:23 PM
Quote:
"I'd love to live in the JG, but the prices are too high. How many people live in there...2? Eventually it'll go on the auction block. Then I'll look again."
FYI they are, except for two units at The Avenues, the best priced condos in all Riverside-Avondale. You may still consider them priced to high, but compared to the units they are competing with, they are priced correctly. They also boast the lowest HOA of any community in RAP. (And don't forget the 10 year tax break.)
Also, last time I checked they were owned (free and clear) by The Weavers, so if you are anticipating them to "go on the auction block" I think you are mistaken.
Again, I apologize to all for going off topic. But, I must ask, where to you see JG in the next five to ten years? I have it on good authority that they've sold 2 in 2 years (let's say that authority is wrong...the most I've ever heard quoting as selling is 4-5). I don't care how rich the Weavers are, I just don't see them sitting on it into eternity.
Just that the Weavers took the time and had the resources and respect to take on John Gorrie is so Heartening. I wish there were more folks like them who took their example. Perhaps we would see many of our landmark structures such as Gorrie, continue to be used in a reasonable and practical way.
As to where it is headed... I think it depends on the economy, the Real Estate Market and job opportunities in the Jacksonville area in the future.
Personally I think the Weavers took this on , realizing it would take a long time, if ever, to break even. My hat is off to them .
I don't disagree w/ a single thing you said. I actually agree with it all. That being said, they're selling one a year. At this rate, we'll all be dead by the time the thing is sold out. Of course I'm being hyperbolic....but the point remains, even in this economy, everyone seems to recognize these lofts are amazingly priced w/ great financing opportunities. Why is nobody moving in?
^Because they are over priced compared to what else you can get in the area. And the renovation was so expensive that their unit price needs to be high to make up for it. It's too bad.
I wonder if the Weavers would consider or are considering doing leasing as an alternative. At least get some income rolling into the building.
I wish I could answer the question , Ben. In my case, I am not in position to buy , and I have an amazing deal in the home I have rented for the past six years.
It is an amazing building and would be an awesome place to live. If/When I am in a position to buy, it might be an option.
My first option, probably never will be an option. No one seems willing or able to do a similar conversion to Annie Lytle. For more reasons than just an interstate in front of it. If I recall , the price tag for the renovation of Gorrie was 13mm (?) So with Annie Lytle being a somewhat smaller structure, I don't see it costing as much. But then I am not in the development business. That the interstate is in front , to me does not defeat it for any reuse. But many do not see it that way.
Only in Jacksonville. These places ( Gorrie and Lytle ) would probably do much better in another large City .
Sorry for continuing off topic.
Quote from: Tacachale on June 19, 2012, 02:55:50 PM
^Because they are over priced compared to what else you can get in the area. And the renovation was so expensive that their unit price needs to be high to make up for it. It's too bad.
Yeah I think that was my initial point.
Quote from: Timkin on June 19, 2012, 03:04:50 PM
I wonder if the Weavers would consider or are considering doing leasing as an alternative. At least get some income rolling into the building.
I wish they would. As of right now, leasing is completely off the table. JG is open to investors who want to buy up to 6 units...but then again, the price is too high to recoup costs.
On a personal note, I'd love that corner unit at College/Stockton. Just can't justify the price at my age/income level. By the time I can afford it, not sure I'll want to live in a condo anymore. Tough situation...for the Weavers, potential investors, potential buyers/lessors...
It seems to me , especially in today's economy and real estate market , that it is advantageous to rent over owning.
I love the funky unusual house I reside in ,but I sure would not want to have to bear the costs of the renovation of it 6 years ago and the structural issues that cropped up from age.
I would love to approach the Weavers about Annie Lytle.. At least to point me in the direction of some entity who would take it on. I think after this project with Gorrie, they might not want to take on another. Of course the emergence of better and more numbers of jobs coming available in the City could help projects like Gorrie.
I am elated the building was spared and did not follow suit of Annie Lytle.
In response to the fire:
I would love to see this plot of land transformed into a place to DO something in 5 Points. Perhaps a place to rock climb, or a miniature golf course. Perhaps an art studio, where you can walk in and do all sorts of art projects with local artists. A skating rink? ...maybe that's too ...
I think it would be great to have a group come to 5 Points to engage in some activity like this, and then walk around the streets to shop and eat at local businesses.
As for the John Gorrie,
I think leasing would be a better option, as well. I've rented a house in the area now for 9 years. It's much easier to call a landlord if something big happens at the house, and quite frankly, although I've been here for a long time, I know it won't be my last stop, and I don't want to bother with selling a house.
It would be a great improvement if they would just pull the whole place down and do something like 1661, but on a smaller scale. The suburban strip center thing just doesn't work in this neighborhood and moving the building to the sidewalk would reduce the impact of the businesses on the nearby neighbors.
I can't really see them doing anything other than rebuilding what's there already. I understand most people on this forum are discussing what would be nice, but there are leases in place with tenants and the strip center has been 100% occupied for some time.
There are plenty of tenants that could come to the center that would bring new life though. That would be a reasonable wish of mine.
QuoteI would love to approach the Weavers about Annie Lytle.. At least to point me in the direction of some entity who would take it on. I think after this project with Gorrie, they might not want to take on another. Of course the emergence of better and more numbers of jobs coming available in the City could help projects like Gorrie.
If you want the Weavers help, ask quickly, they have many of their holdings for sale, including the house in San Marco, and are rumored to be looking to get out of Gorrie, since its only sold 5 and with this being Delores' own money, she may be wanting to cash out of the mess. Other rumor is that they want to head back to the midwest where they also have considerable holdings.
So time would be of the essence here.
And this is a perfect reflection of one of the aspects of our current economy. The Weavers were able to quickly unload one of their assets, their largest, The Jaguars, for $750,000,000 but can't find buyers for the $150,000
condos they developed in Riverside.
Gotta love how it "trickles down......................"
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 20, 2012, 07:48:58 PM
QuoteI would love to approach the Weavers about Annie Lytle.. At least to point me in the direction of some entity who would take it on. I think after this project with Gorrie, they might not want to take on another. Of course the emergence of better and more numbers of jobs coming available in the City could help projects like Gorrie.
If you want the Weavers help, ask quickly, they have many of their holdings for sale, including the house in San Marco, and are rumored to be looking to get out of Gorrie, since its only sold 5 and with this being Delores' own money, she may be wanting to cash out of the mess. Other rumor is that they want to head back to the midwest where they also have considerable holdings.
So time would be of the essence here.
^ I don't know them ,personally... or how to get in contact with them. Can only imagine with the difficulties they have suffered with Gorrie that they would never get involved with Annie Lytle. I would love to get suggestions from them as to who ,maybe to turn to. For that matter, Mr Kahn might also be an idea. Again don't really know either of them
It is interesting that they are selling everything. Are they leaving Jacksonville? :(
QuoteThe Jaguars, for $750,000,000 but can't find buyers for the $150,000
condos they developed in Riverside.
Gotta love how it "trickles down......................"
Love the sarcasm, but this is the reality, they did have a number of partners in the Jaguars, they were the majority holders, but there WERE others who saw a nice payday from the sale of the team. Granted Delores spent close to 16 million of her own money and she knows that with the economy and sales prospects (ask a bank for a condo loan these days), with 5 sold so far, that she probably will not get all her money back out of the deal. Stephen can probably discuss more about their plans, but they have the San Marco river house for sale, the Condo at Villa Riva is probably safe for now, but you have to believe that in this time of their life, they are looking to divest, rather than accumulate.
http://www.wokv.com/news/news/local/firehouse-subs-comdemned-no-rebuild-timeline/nPbDn/
Hey here is an idea? A lot of people want to save the old Number Five Fire Station on Riverside. How about turning it into the New Firehouse Subs. The building would have new life and a Great local business would be able to stay in the Riverside area. ;)
^Nice idea, but I believe Fidelity owns the land that the Fire Station Sits on, and I am not sure they are looking to take on new tenants. There was a discussion to move the FS to a new location, it could be done based on what we saw happened at the Beach over the weekend with JEA moving lights for the church on 3rd street. But that was a church, and this is well, a fire station. No doubt Fire House Subs would have the $$$, but do they have the desire, and who here at MJ would make the pitch, if not already done, to them to move it and then where? Only so many locations in the area, unless you float it somewhere, again doable, but will be a major undertaking.
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 20, 2012, 11:16:50 PM
^Nice idea, but I believe Fidelity owns the land that the Fire Station Sits on, and I am not sure they are looking to take on new tenants. There was a discussion to move the FS to a new location, it could be done based on what we saw happened at the Beach over the weekend with JEA moving lights for the church on 3rd street. But that was a church, and this is well, a fire station. No doubt Fire House Subs would have the $$$, but do they have the desire, and who here at MJ would make the pitch, if not already done, to them to move it and then where? Only so many locations in the area, unless you float it somewhere, again doable, but will be a major undertaking.
Thank You ;)
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on June 20, 2012, 11:07:08 PM
http://www.wokv.com/news/news/local/firehouse-subs-comdemned-no-rebuild-timeline/nPbDn/
Hey here is an idea? A lot of people want to save the old Number Five Fire Station on Riverside. How about turning it into the New Firehouse Subs. The building would have new life and a Great local business would be able to stay in the Riverside area. ;)
This is indeed a good idea , and was tossed around on the board a year or so back. It would take someone with the $$ as M-train pointed out, and the incentive to save a nice landmark.
Problem is ,,, The Fire Station has to leave its current location or it will likely be demolished. It was suggested in the past to move it to the opposite side of Riverside Ave . That is out . It could be moved up Forest St, and down Park .. Think there is a vacant lot opposite ( roughly ) Jimmy Johns .
It is actually an excellent idea for a new location for the Firehouse Subs Chain closed by the fire and a great reuse for the Old FS#5. it would be in close proximity to the old location and in an Old Firehouse, I think it would be a popular spot. Space-wise it would be overkill for a typical Firehouse Subs location. Perhaps Firehouse Subs Corporate would take it on , if they could get a tenant in the upper level of the building.
I like. Perhaps that could be a solution for the old Fire Station.
Quote: "Ask a bank for a condo loan these days"
FYI John Gorrie offers in-house financing up to 95% (Everbank if I recall) for qualified buyers.
Would love to see FireHouse Subs in the old fire station.
Finally: What's up in the old dry cleaner on Oak Street in Riverside? (Near Publix)
Anybody notice the COA/Public hearing sign there a week ago?
Quote from: MusicMan on June 21, 2012, 09:12:36 AM
Quote: "Ask a bank for a condo loan these days"
FYI John Gorrie offers in-house financing up to 95% (Everbank if I recall) for qualified buyers.
Would love to see FireHouse Subs in the old fire station.
Finally: What's up in the old dry cleaner on Oak Street in Riverside? (Near Publix)
Anybody notice the COA/Public hearing sign there a week ago?
You talking about De Luxe? Maybe I have the spelling wrong. That's the operating dry cleaner. There's a vacant center on the other side of the road that I believe was also a dry cleaner
QuoteFYI John Gorrie offers in-house financing up to 95% (Everbank if I recall) for qualified buyers.
There were 5 lenders and they all had the 5% deal, each one did one and now no one else wants to have (2) condo loans on their books, so those deals are gone for now. The first 5 in got the best deals, and they are the only ones there now.
Timken - Delores is onsite at the offices of John Gorrie, she would be approachable, I would think.
The COA for the old Deluxe Laundry building was for the "renovation of the storefront". It is probably the last unaltered, commercial storefront in Riverside.
Any pictures around of that location (Deluxe Laundry, Oak Street) in it's "hayday"?
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 21, 2012, 09:25:09 AM
QuoteFYI John Gorrie offers in-house financing up to 95% (Everbank if I recall) for qualified buyers.
There were 5 lenders and they all had the 5% deal, each one did one and now no one else wants to have (2) condo loans on their books, so those deals are gone for now. The first 5 in got the best deals, and they are the only ones there now.
Timken - Delores is onsite at the offices of John Gorrie, she would be approachable, I would think.
It can't hurt to ask her for guidance. Not necessarily to jump into the project.
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 21, 2012, 09:25:09 AM
Timken - Delores is onsite at the offices of John Gorrie, she would be approachable, I would think.
Still? I went there a few weeks ago, and according to the agent,
nobody is onsite anymore. Sales were too slow to justify a presence.
Quote from: MusicMan on June 21, 2012, 09:12:36 AM
Quote: "Ask a bank for a condo loan these days"
FYI John Gorrie offers in-house financing up to 95% (Everbank if I recall) for qualified buyers.
Would love to see FireHouse Subs in the old fire station.
Finally: What's up in the old dry cleaner on Oak Street in Riverside? (Near Publix)
Anybody notice the COA/Public hearing sign there a week ago?
Tried really hard recently to get into some sort of talks w/ the owner about buying/rehabbing the place. Went nowhere. My educated guess is the place has major environmental issues and nobody knows quite exactly what to do with it. I saw the Public Hearing sign. No idea what that's about.
QuoteStill? I went there a few weeks ago, and according to the agent, nobody is onsite anymore. Sales were too slow to justify a presence.
That is correct, no agent on site, but Delores Weaver is onsite, what time, I don't know, all the agents left, there is no one buying them, so why would an onsite agent stay and make no money?