OK DVI, Mayors Office, Chamber and whoever else, now is your chance to lure another large employer Downtown! Get on it Alvin!
http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=536659
Downtown
The fact that its been floated to the media may mean PSS is just using this as renegotiation leverage, but still get on it Mayor Brown, JEDC, DVI, etc. 900 employees and $30 million of investment should equal some pretty serious incentives.
The article said they are looking for 200,000 sq ft, I dont know that we have that Downtown in one building. Not sure how much is left in Everbankl Center once they move in. I know the Suntrust Tower is about half empty and the old Wachovia tower.
Quote from: fsujax on June 06, 2012, 02:44:14 PM
The article said they are looking for 200,000 sq ft, I dont know that we have that Downtown in one building. Not sure how much is left in Everbankl Center once they move in. I know the Suntrust Tower is about half empty and the old Wachovia tower.
The buildings accommodate 200,000 square feet for PSS, but the company doesn’t use all of it, he said
There are plenty of empty lots downtown they can build on. We need to offer up some serious incentives.
^^great idea.
Quote from: Tacachale on June 06, 2012, 03:08:12 PM
There are plenty of empty lots downtown they can build on. We need to offer up some serious incentives.
How about a tower bookended on that ugly landing parking garage?
The article said that they weren't opposed to new construction, so that is definitely on the table. If the city is serious about downtown redevelopment, they can not only offer up incentives, but also try and find a suitable spot for a new building. The city owns plenty of developable land downtown that it could use to entice PSS downtown.
A 200,000 square foot building would likely be more of a mid-rise than a high rise, unless it was on top of a parking garage.
Quick, unscientific research on square footage of some downtown buildings:
Blue Cross/Blue Shield is 300,000=19 stories
CSX is 390,000=17 stories
Old Wachovia is 318,000=22 stories
Everbank is 296,000
They want a new building with new features, a real showcase. There is nothing for them in downtown, unless they tear down one of the dumps and build something new, a possibility, but there is still too much cheap land on the southside, with easy parking for them.
Why move if you cannot plaster your face on Sunday/Monday Night Football along the river?
^As I said there are plenty of empty lots Downtown. Including near the river. And I'm sure they'd be happy to put Downtown into consideration if we level the playing field with incentives like we did with EverBank.
Quote from: mtraininjax on June 07, 2012, 11:19:48 AM
They want a new building with new features, a real showcase. There is nothing for them in downtown, unless they tear down one of the dumps and build something new, a possibility, but there is still too much cheap land on the southside, with easy parking for them.
Why move if you cannot plaster your face on Sunday/Monday Night Football along the river?
I just want to let you know that I am ignoring all of your posts effectively immediately. You continue to be expressive negatively. I really meant it. Realist, my ass. You can try to be optimistic realist for once.
On the related topic, there are more than many solutions to this one problem. It all matters when both sides start to talk and draw out their options and needs, then a balance will be struck to bring the conclusion to end.
Have a nice day! =D
-Josh
The biggest problem with moving downtown is parking. Right now their employees have free parking close to the buildings they are using in Southpoint. Moving downtown and either making employees pay for parking or the company paying for the parking could be a deal killer.
Quote from: CityLife on June 06, 2012, 03:30:26 PM
The article said that they weren't opposed to new construction, so that is definitely on the table. If the city is serious about downtown redevelopment, they can not only offer up incentives, but also try and find a suitable spot for a new building. The city owns plenty of developable land downtown that it could use to entice PSS downtown.
A 200,000 square foot building would likely be more of a mid-rise than a high rise, unless it was on top of a parking garage.
Quick, unscientific research on square footage of some downtown buildings:
Blue Cross/Blue Shield is 300,000=19 stories
CSX is 390,000=17 stories
Old Wachovia is 318,000=22 stories
Everbank is 296,000
I agree. There is a crap load of empty lots downtown that can be developed. Thats the same thing I was thinking when I read this article initially. The city needs to job on this.
well, i am sure there were people saying Everbank wouldn't relocate Downtown, but they did. So anything can happen. Maybe they just want to civicly do the right thing. Of course with a little City help!
how much does the average 20 story office builidng cost these days?
Quote from: John P on June 07, 2012, 01:41:45 PM
how much does the average 20 story office builidng cost these days?
Not including land acquisition, you can probably assume $250 - $300 million to build a 20 story building, but it can easily go much higher. It depends on the design, whether or not the owner wants to pursue LEED certification on the structure(can add significantly to the cost), and many other factors.