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Community => News => Topic started by: mtraininjax on May 18, 2012, 11:57:06 AM

Title: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: mtraininjax on May 18, 2012, 11:57:06 AM
Wow, those guys at the Chamber and Mayor's office are really improving the quality of life in Jax, this is a staggering number and should help the Mayor win over the critics!

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2012/05/18/jacksonville-adds-1500-jobs-during.html (http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2012/05/18/jacksonville-adds-1500-jobs-during.html)

QuoteIn one year, Jacksonville went from 591,800 non-farm jobs to 593,300 â€" a 0.25 percent increase. Of the 100 metropolitan areas included in the analysis, Jacksonville ranked No. 81.

Take that Charlotte!
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: Ocklawaha on May 18, 2012, 12:02:02 PM
Getting Jacksonville back on 'TRACKS' would go a long way toward the number one spot.
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: copperfiend on May 18, 2012, 12:08:10 PM
He hasn't even been in office for a year, has he?
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: vicupstate on May 18, 2012, 12:15:30 PM
Mtrain, do you think it would have been any better under Mike Hogan?
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: mtraininjax on May 18, 2012, 12:44:51 PM
QuoteMtrain, do you think it would have been any better under Mike Hogan?

It matters not, the fact of the matter is we are STUCK with who we have now, right or wrong. Just trying to keep my friends and colleagues who rode the "I'm with Alvin" train and keep them updated on the mayor's success.
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: simms3 on May 18, 2012, 12:51:22 PM
Direct correlation to new development here:

Boise (2.14% job growth)
Charleston (2.20%)
OKC (2.06%)
Raleigh (2.50%)
Houston (3.21%)
DFW (2.42%)
Seattle (2.38%)
Denver (2.34%)
SLC (3.29%)
Austin (2.50%)
Nashville (2.10%)

Very few cities seeing lots of new development without job growth over 2% (DC, NYC, ATL come to mind), and very few cities that aren't seeing lots of new development that are below 2% (Louisville, Rochester, Knoxville, Scranton).

I think perhaps this is ultimately where the Chamber/City has failed?  It would be much easier to develop downtown/Brooklyn/LaVilla if the city had job growth AND higher paying jobs at that because call center/support jobs are not going to put people into $1500 urban 1 BRs that are concrete construction rather than stick/garden style.
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: thelakelander on May 18, 2012, 01:36:54 PM
Hmmm.  How does Jacksonville's growth rate compare with peer cities in this state that didn't waive their concurrency/impact/mobility fees?
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: Tacachale on May 18, 2012, 01:42:28 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 18, 2012, 12:44:51 PM
QuoteMtrain, do you think it would have been any better under Mike Hogan?

It matters not, the fact of the matter is we are STUCK with who we have now, right or wrong. Just trying to keep my friends and colleagues who rode the "I'm with Alvin" train and keep them updated on the mayor's success.
Right, because everyone who voted for Brown must be an ardent supporter.
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: copperfiend on May 18, 2012, 01:51:59 PM
Hogan's campaign was laughable. From the joke about bombing an abortion clinic (and his bizarre explanation) to his pledge against Sharia Law. He was a terrible candidate.
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: mtraininjax on May 18, 2012, 02:22:51 PM
QuoteAs long as Alvin continues not to be Mike Hogan, then he's doing what he was elected to do

Stephen if 0.25% job growth gets you excited in the morning, then Alvin is your huckleberry.
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: dougskiles on May 18, 2012, 03:05:52 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on May 18, 2012, 01:36:54 PM
Hmmm.  How does Jacksonville's growth rate compare with peer cities in this state that didn't waive their concurrency/impact/mobility fees?

Why don't we just compare the cities that are on this list?

Quote from: simms3 on May 18, 2012, 12:51:22 PM

Boise (2.14% job growth) IMPACT FEE? YES
Charleston (2.20%) IMPACT FEE? YES
OKC (2.06%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Raleigh (2.50%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Houston (3.21%) IMPACT FEE? YES
DFW (2.42%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Seattle (2.38%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Denver (2.34%) IMPACT FEE? YES
SLC (3.29%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Austin (2.50%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Nashville (2.10%) IMPACT FEE? YES

Anyone see a trend?
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: cline on May 18, 2012, 03:10:47 PM
Quote from: dougskiles on May 18, 2012, 03:05:52 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on May 18, 2012, 01:36:54 PM
Hmmm.  How does Jacksonville's growth rate compare with peer cities in this state that didn't waive their concurrency/impact/mobility fees?

Why don't we just compare the cities that are on this list?

Quote from: simms3 on May 18, 2012, 12:51:22 PM

Boise (2.14% job growth) IMPACT FEE? YES
Charleston (2.20%) IMPACT FEE? YES
OKC (2.06%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Raleigh (2.50%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Houston (3.21%) IMPACT FEE? YES
DFW (2.42%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Seattle (2.38%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Denver (2.34%) IMPACT FEE? YES
SLC (3.29%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Austin (2.50%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Nashville (2.10%) IMPACT FEE? YES

Anyone see a trend?

DO NOT question the knowledge of the developers that are in the ear of Council.  They are geniuses and know that impact fees, mobility plans, etc kill job growth.  Please do not confuse the issue with actual facts. 
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: mtraininjax on May 18, 2012, 04:12:59 PM
QuoteAt least he isn't praying the gay out of people or joking about bombing abortion clinics.

If Mike wanted to explain why those things might not be true, he had ample opportunity to communicate with us.  However, we were beneath his radar and he didn't need us to win.

Nope, Alvin just lies to us about his Pension "I had no idea", really? Fantastic Job growth numbers though, I mean, should make the front page of any paper rag in town.
Title: Re: Jacksonville adds 1,500 jobs during the past 12 months
Post by: simms3 on May 18, 2012, 05:13:38 PM
Quote from: cline on May 18, 2012, 03:10:47 PM
Quote from: dougskiles on May 18, 2012, 03:05:52 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on May 18, 2012, 01:36:54 PM
Hmmm.  How does Jacksonville's growth rate compare with peer cities in this state that didn't waive their concurrency/impact/mobility fees?

Why don't we just compare the cities that are on this list?

Quote from: simms3 on May 18, 2012, 12:51:22 PM

Boise (2.14% job growth) IMPACT FEE? YES
Charleston (2.20%) IMPACT FEE? YES
OKC (2.06%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Raleigh (2.50%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Houston (3.21%) IMPACT FEE? YES
DFW (2.42%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Seattle (2.38%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Denver (2.34%) IMPACT FEE? YES
SLC (3.29%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Austin (2.50%) IMPACT FEE? YES
Nashville (2.10%) IMPACT FEE? YES

Anyone see a trend?

DO NOT question the knowledge of the developers that are in the ear of Council.  They are geniuses and know that impact fees, mobility plans, etc kill job growth.  Please do not confuse the issue with actual facts. 

I can't tell if that is sarcasm or not.  I'll just assume it is.  :)  Doug thanks for adding to the list.  Maybe there are some other consistencies someone can point out with the shortlist already created.