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Title: Beaches Construction Update: April 2012
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on April 27, 2012, 03:00:45 AM
Beaches Construction Update: April 2012

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Here's a look at new businesses, closings, and renovations this month in the Jacksonville - Neptune - Atlantic Beaches area.

Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-apr-beaches-construction-update-april-2012
Title: Re: Beaches Construction Update: April 2012
Post by: John P on April 27, 2012, 08:52:45 AM
Is there an idea whats going in to the Publix on Atlantic blvd?
Title: Re: Beaches Construction Update: April 2012
Post by: Tacachale on April 27, 2012, 11:52:16 AM
Good stuff. Looking forward to the North Beach Fish Camp.
Title: Re: Beaches Construction Update: April 2012
Post by: Ocklawaha on April 27, 2012, 10:09:20 PM
What a place for a streetcar! A strip of towns a half a mile wide and 10 miles long... What more could you ask?
Title: Re: Beaches Construction Update: April 2012
Post by: Anti redneck on April 27, 2012, 10:55:56 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on April 27, 2012, 10:09:20 PM
What a place for a streetcar! A strip of towns a half a mile wide and 10 miles long... What more could you ask?

That streetcars and mass transit actually be supported.
Title: Re: Beaches Construction Update: April 2012
Post by: Overstreet on April 28, 2012, 09:26:43 AM
Aren't they "opening" the beaches today?
Title: Re: Beaches Construction Update: April 2012
Post by: Ocklawaha on April 28, 2012, 02:28:32 PM
Quote from: Anti redneck on April 27, 2012, 10:55:56 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on April 27, 2012, 10:09:20 PM
What a place for a streetcar! A strip of towns a half a mile wide and 10 miles long... What more could you ask?

That streetcars and mass transit actually be supported.

PUBLIC SUPPORT: Streetcar is a case of 'build it and they will come,' to use a tired and oft attacked phrase. The difference with Streetcar is we have the numbers to back it up, in virtually every case the new lines have exceeded ridership projections. A streetcar system is a proved, 150 year old, American invention that now spans the globe. Unlike the "60,000 passengers a day," Skyway that JTA pushed on the city, or the impending, 'this will ultimately cost more then streetcar BRT project,' they are determined to implement today.

Buses have a bad image, even the industry admits this and having worked as a supervisor for Trailway's, I agree. Buses have a much lower passenger capacity and cannot run entrain, meaning they have higher O&M cost. Lastly, busways or bus lanes as well as the buses themselves have a much shorter life then streetcars. Several cities have streetcars running that are 100 years old and even the FTA admits that railroad track is good for something between 50 and 100 years. Eventually the cost of patching potholes and rebuilding or ordering new buses will surpass the cost of building rail in the first place. While JTA claims they'll build this to 'increase demand' then, and I quote: "We'll just slide rails under it and we'll have light-rail." Sorry boys there is not a single case of that happening ANYWHERE, but I can show you 'world BRT showcase cities,' that are now building completely new rail system's because BRT hasn't produced.

POLITICALLY: Yeah, Jacksonville Beach, Atlantic Beach, Neptune Beach, Ponte Vedra/Sawgrass, or the City of Jacksonville doesn't have a single politician pushing sensible fixed rail mass transit. If we did, he'd be out on the Inter-coastal Waterway walking on water.
Title: Re: Beaches Construction Update: April 2012
Post by: Tacachale on April 28, 2012, 03:49:56 PM
I'm temporarily staying out at the Beach again, and it's my dream to one day see a street car line run from the Town Center south on 3rd. On top of all the standard benefits streetcars have, a Beaches streetcar would have an appreciable effect on safety (proportionately fewer drunk drivers and car-on-pedestrian accidents) and encourage smarter development than the ticky-tacky car-oriented strip malls currently blighting 3rd. Some locals are worried about even more development on 3rd, but the real issue is the clustering of businesses that require car trips to visit them. Walking/biking/transit oriented development would be a huge asset to the community.
Title: Re: Beaches Construction Update: April 2012
Post by: thelakelander on April 29, 2012, 07:12:12 AM
Quote from: John P on April 27, 2012, 08:52:45 AM
Is there an idea whats going in to the Publix on Atlantic blvd?

LA Fitness

http://jacksonville.com/business/2012-04-29/story/business-notebook-clothing-store-kirklands-join-citys-retail-sprawl
Title: Re: Beaches Construction Update: April 2012
Post by: I-10east on April 29, 2012, 08:52:02 AM
Although it's not 'technically' in the Beaches area, do anyone know what going on in the Super Walmart Plaza on Beach & Hodges? They are erecting a building from the ground up, and I read the 'coming soon' sign, said "Something's Cookin". I tried to find info about it on the web to no avail.
Title: Re: Beaches Construction Update: April 2012
Post by: fieldafm on April 29, 2012, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: I-10east on April 29, 2012, 08:52:02 AM
Although it's not 'technically' in the Beaches area, do anyone know what going on in the Super Walmart Plaza on Beach & Hodges? They are erecting a building from the ground up, and I read the 'coming soon' sign, said "Something's Cookin". I tried to find info about it on the web to no avail.

First Watch
Title: Re: Beaches Construction Update: April 2012
Post by: I-10east on April 30, 2012, 01:59:15 AM
^^^Thanks for the info.