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Title: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: aclchampion on March 12, 2012, 10:40:26 AM
Looking for a little insight from those in the know. Back in the mid 20th century the downtown Maxwell House plant was railroad served. What I am trying to learn is how the railroad was used by the plant. Did it recieve raw beans by boxcar? I believe the beans came by ship to the port. But then how did they get to the plant?  Or did it ship finished coffee out by boxcar? What else might it have shipped or recieved and what types of cars would have been used. Anyone?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: thelakelander on March 12, 2012, 11:14:59 AM
Beans were originally shipped by barge up Hogans Creek.  Rail was probably used to ship finished product out to customers.
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: aclchampion on March 12, 2012, 03:30:25 PM
Okay. Thanks Lakelander.
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: billy on March 12, 2012, 04:08:56 PM
Remember, two rail lines bracketed the Union 700 Terminal Warehouse, and
there was another food stores building (748 Union) next to the the Maxwell House rail line.

I thought I had heard that at least one of the Union 700 freight elevators could handle multi-ton containers/barrels
of beans.
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: Lunican on March 12, 2012, 05:20:46 PM
This map shows where the tracks were. It looks like it ran in the middle of Ionia St. for a few blocks.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.32626&lon=-81.6473&zoom=17&layers=M
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: Lunican on March 12, 2012, 05:25:03 PM
You can see the tracks under the asphalt on Ionia. http://g.co/maps/dd79h
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: downtownjag on March 12, 2012, 07:01:30 PM
Does Maxwell House do tours? How old is that facility?
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: thelakelander on March 12, 2012, 09:34:42 PM
I don't think so.  It opened in 1910 as the Cheek-Neal Coffee Company.

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/1031699657_EmZhk-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: mtraininjax on March 12, 2012, 11:28:18 PM
No tours. But you can smell it from the Hart expressway, daily.
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: Ocklawaha on March 12, 2012, 11:59:04 PM
It was served by two railroads, the St. Johns River Terminal Railway {western most tracks}(part of the Georgia, Southern and Florida Railroad, part of the SOUTHERN RAILWAY SYSTEM, the NORFOLK SOUTHERN of today), and the Seaboard Air Line Railroad {the Eastern most tracks} part of the CSX of today.

There was once a railroad yard which extended from about Union Street to Bay. Until the 1890's there was a train station at this location, built by the Fernandina and Jacksonville Railroad, a Seaboard Air Line property. There was even a period of time that to move a car of express from the coffee plant to the Jacksonville Terminal Station it actually had to travel north to Yulee, then southwest to Baldwin, then east to the station! The famed "S" Line, better known as the Jacksonville Belt Railroad solved that problem.

The main tracks were intact through most of the 1980's. The railroads crossed Bay Street into the ship yards, the St Johns River Terminal Railroad was happy to connect with the ship builders, while the Seaboard crossed Bay, turned east and ran under what is today the Hart Bridge.

Today the coffee comes in (mostly at Tallerand) and is moved by truck to the plant, outbound shipments go west of town to the massive CSX piggyback/container yard, or the NORFOLK SOUTHERNS Simpson Yard, while some actually goes down to the FEC RR's Bowden Yard off Philips Highway.

OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: aclchampion on March 13, 2012, 08:10:39 AM
Ocklawaha, prior to containerized freight, how would Maxwell House have moved the finished product out? I assume by boxcar.
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: Marley Weinstein on March 13, 2012, 09:01:16 AM
It would be nice if Maxwell house provided tours to the public. I'd love to see their operation
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: Ocklawaha on March 13, 2012, 09:04:26 AM
Quote from: aclchampion on March 13, 2012, 08:10:39 AM
Ocklawaha, prior to containerized freight, how would Maxwell House have moved the finished product out? I assume by boxcar.

...And you would be right about that.
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: thelakelander on March 13, 2012, 09:11:33 AM
You can see Maxwell House between both rail lines in this historic aerial:

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/History/Hogans-Creek-Historic-Images/Merrill-Stevens-1946/1031699691_XkRD6-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: thelakelander on March 13, 2012, 09:16:54 AM
In this image (you'll have to scroll), you can see three boxcars on their property.

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/Photography/State-Archives-Downtown-Jax/i-RdwKXgp/0/XL/rf00041-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: aclchampion on March 13, 2012, 09:20:55 AM
So the five story structure with the smoke/steam coming out. Thats their entire facility at the time of this picture? Which would have been circa?
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: thelakelander on March 13, 2012, 09:32:01 AM
The last image was taken in 1948.  Without looking at Sanborn maps and city directories, it's hard for me to say that the five story building was the plant's only structure at that point.  There's a possibility that various operations were also housed in the smaller warehouses attached to the vertical structure and the buildings between that structure and Hogans Creek.
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: aclchampion on March 13, 2012, 09:46:50 AM
Well thanks to everyone for the great information and insight! :) This is really a great website and I'm glad I found it.
Title: Re: Maxwell House Railroad History
Post by: aclchampion on March 13, 2012, 10:12:03 AM
According to the 1924-1949 Sanborn maps, that structure appears to be the only one on their property at that time. 3 SAL tracks ran just to the east and two came right to the plant. One appears to run all the way to Bay St under an overhang, probabaly a loading dock.
Jacksonville 1924-1949vol.1A,1949, Sheet 37a