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Living in Jacksonville => Dining => Restaurants => Topic started by: ben says on February 18, 2012, 02:54:18 PM

Title: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on February 18, 2012, 02:54:18 PM
Anyone know what the status of this project is? I see there is a sign up front. Can't wait until there's a real bagel place opening up - assuming that's what it is!
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: Ernest Street on February 18, 2012, 05:20:58 PM
Will they be making the bagels on the premises?
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on February 18, 2012, 05:56:11 PM
That's what I hear....would love to get some more info on this project. Outside of Healthy Bagel (which sucks) and Bagel World (beaches), can't find a homemade bagel anywhere....
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: tufsu1 on February 18, 2012, 08:46:12 PM
there's a great place in St. Augustine....the name escapes me right now (maybe Everything Bagel?) but its in the shopping center at the northeast corner of SR 312/US 1 intersection
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: billy on February 19, 2012, 08:30:21 AM
hard to find a good bagel in Atlanta, even intown....
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: aaapolito on February 19, 2012, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: ben says on February 18, 2012, 05:56:11 PM
That's what I hear....would love to get some more info on this project. Outside of Healthy Bagel (which sucks) and Bagel World (beaches), can't find a homemade bagel anywhere....

I have to disagree with the comment about Healthy Bagel on San Jose and University.  It has the best bagels that I know of in Jax.  While it does not have true Ny/Nj bagels, it is pretty close.

Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on February 19, 2012, 10:25:56 AM
Quote from: billy on February 19, 2012, 08:30:21 AM
hard to find a good bagel in Atlanta, even intown....

Couldn't find one there, either..

Quote from: aaapolito on February 19, 2012, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: ben says on February 18, 2012, 05:56:11 PM
That's what I hear....would love to get some more info on this project. Outside of Healthy Bagel (which sucks) and Bagel World (beaches), can't find a homemade bagel anywhere....

We'll have to agree to disagree. I find that Healthy Bagel (how do they call those healthy?!) are just round pieces of bread with a whole cut in the middle. Pretty sure they don't boil them, just bake.

I know it's hard to find a NY bagel in the south, it's not impossible, and I guess that's why I'm striving for something 'better'...I've had genuine NY bagels all over South Florida, some areas in NC and GA. Also found a place that's damn good in Charleston (Bagel Nation).

Hoping Bagel Love gets at least kind of close to a NY bagel.

I have to disagree with the comment about Healthy Bagel on San Jose and University.  It has the best bagels that I know of in Jax.  While it does not have true Ny/Nj bagels, it is pretty close.


Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: RockStar on February 19, 2012, 11:58:07 AM
Bagel World at the beach is awesome.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: mtraininjax on February 19, 2012, 12:07:00 PM
Ortega River Bridge now closed until end of April, probably will be closed a total of 12 months. Tom Turnage who owns the Bagel World building had stated his extreme desire to fix the bridge so that the neighborhoods were not so divided.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: Ernest Street on February 19, 2012, 08:55:11 PM
Oy vey!  NY bagel or not, bagels are BOILED not steamed...then baked. Some makers have malt in the water.
If your bagel doesn't look like it was hand formed and both ends joined together..(Shudder..hole cut out) it might not be real.
A real bagel has a chewy crust and soft But chewy inside,usually with large bubbles to trap more shmear.
A real bagel should leave your jaw hurting slightly from chewing.
Even though there are a lot of old Eastern Jews in South Florida, My Boca catering friend told me the bagel shops have adapted to their older jaws and teeth= softer bagels.

There...I hope you are hungry now. ;D
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: fieldafm on March 01, 2012, 07:47:16 AM
Bagel Love is officially open today and I just finished my second bagel of the morning. 

Hours right now (which are subject to change based on traffic count) is 6AM to 2PM.

Might go back tomorrow at lunch and try that veggie sandwich (participating in No Meat March this month). 
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on March 01, 2012, 08:36:37 AM
Quote from: fieldafm on March 01, 2012, 07:47:16 AM
Bagel Love is officially open today and I just finished my second bagel of the morning. 

Hours right now (which are subject to change based on traffic count) is 6AM to 2PM.

Might go back tomorrow at lunch and try that veggie sandwich (participating in No Meat March this month).

Thanks for the heads up....

I assume it's too soon to ask the obvious: how do they compare to a real, NY bagel?
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: riverside planner on March 01, 2012, 09:31:08 AM
Where exactly are they located?
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on March 01, 2012, 09:32:28 AM
Quote from: riverside planner on March 01, 2012, 09:31:08 AM
Where exactly are they located?

Near Harpoon Louie's and Fishweir Creek. Herschel, too.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: KenFSU on March 01, 2012, 09:48:17 AM
Bagels 'r US on Beach and San Pablo is pretty good too*

*For a northeast Florida bagel
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on March 01, 2012, 09:52:44 AM
Quote from: KenFSU on March 01, 2012, 09:48:17 AM
Bagels 'r US on Beach and San Pablo is pretty good too*

*For a northeast Florida bagel

I hear good things, but who wants to drive to Beach and San Pablo? I don't even know if I'd want to drive there if I lived at the beach. Too far from the core!  :(
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: fieldafm on March 01, 2012, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: ben says on March 01, 2012, 09:32:28 AM
Quote from: riverside planner on March 01, 2012, 09:31:08 AM
Where exactly are they located?

Near Harpoon Louie's and Fishweir Creek. Herschel, too.

Corner of St Johns Ave and Herschel. 

Bagel was good to me.  Instead of comparing it to the 100's of NY bagels I have eaten.. I would say that the two bagels I had were comparable to Bagel World.  Owner is SUPER nice (and a big Jags fan).  They also had good fresh squeezed OJ. 

Will report back tomorrow to give my opinion on some of the sandwiches. 
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: goldy21 on March 01, 2012, 11:59:24 AM
Went there today and bought a dozen bagels for $8.95 + $3.00 for a tub of cream cheese.  Bagels were authentic and quite good.  The scallion cream cheese was incredible.  They have about 20 cream cheese flavors, including an interesting bacon and horseradish shmear.   They're still in start-up mode (credit card terminal wasn't working), but Bagel Love is a nice addition to the neigborhood.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: Jimmy on March 01, 2012, 12:03:14 PM
Will have to check it out!
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: mtraininjax on March 01, 2012, 01:57:51 PM
QuoteWhere exactly are they located?

Right at the split of Herschel and St. Johns Avenue, basically across from the Eclipse, if you know where that is in that area.

$1 off coupon in the Ortega Bridge Runner's goody bags from last week, if you can remember to use it.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: PeeJayEss on March 01, 2012, 05:21:53 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 18, 2012, 08:46:12 PM
there's a great place in St. Augustine....the name escapes me right now (maybe Everything Bagel?) but its in the shopping center at the northeast corner of SR 312/US 1 intersection

I believe the sign on the outside just says "BAGELS," though I might be mistaken. I go there every time I'm in the neighborhood.

Will have to check this Bagel Love out. Perhaps bring some to work to ruin the day of my Atkins-following coworkers.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on March 03, 2012, 09:59:16 AM
Quote from: fieldafm on March 01, 2012, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: ben says on March 01, 2012, 09:32:28 AM
Quote from: riverside planner on March 01, 2012, 09:31:08 AM
Where exactly are they located?

Near Harpoon Louie's and Fishweir Creek. Herschel, too.

Corner of St Johns Ave and Herschel. 

Bagel was good to me.  Instead of comparing it to the 100's of NY bagels I have eaten.. I would say that the two bagels I had were comparable to Bagel World.  Owner is SUPER nice (and a big Jags fan).  They also had good fresh squeezed OJ. 

Will report back tomorrow to give my opinion on some of the sandwiches. 


You were right to nix the comparisons to NY Bagels...that being said, I went this morning, and the bagels were damn good. Best I've had in Jax, for sure. Crispy and crusty outside, doughy and dense inside. Weren't cheap on the toppings, and the cream cheeses were good. Glad to see a local place making a real bialy. Also hear they are going to start making their own whitefish. I hope them all the best.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on March 03, 2012, 10:12:40 AM
Oh, and, their coffee is terrible (sorry, had to throw that one in there)
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: GirlStarKT on March 05, 2012, 01:49:48 PM
Brian, the owner, is a great guy and close friend.  He managed Bagel World at the beach for years, so comparisons between the two make sense.  I'm so glad he's bringing quality product to our part of town!  And the fresh-squeezed OJ is delicious!!
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: Ernest Street on March 05, 2012, 04:40:04 PM
We need photos to make us crave bagels.. ;)
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: WmNussbaum on March 06, 2012, 08:02:58 AM
QuoteIf your bagel doesn't look like it was hand formed and both ends joined together..(Shudder..hole cut out) it might not be real.
A real bagel has a chewy crust and soft But chewy inside,usually with large bubbles to trap more shmear.
A real bagel should leave your jaw hurting slightly from chewing.

Right on! You may well like what they are serving, but it ain't bagels. If you want bagels, try Panera or Einstein's - they're much closer to the real deal.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on March 06, 2012, 08:25:18 AM
Quote from: WmNussbaum on March 06, 2012, 08:02:58 AM
QuoteIf your bagel doesn't look like it was hand formed and both ends joined together..(Shudder..hole cut out) it might not be real.
A real bagel has a chewy crust and soft But chewy inside,usually with large bubbles to trap more shmear.
A real bagel should leave your jaw hurting slightly from chewing.

Right on! You may well like what they are serving, but it ain't bagels. If you want bagels, try Panera or Einstein's - they're much closer to the real deal.

OK I was agreeing with you until you go to the "if you want bagels, try Panera or Einstein's".....you're joking, right?
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: grimss on March 06, 2012, 08:39:49 AM
I've been there multiple times and think the bagels are great. They remind me a bit of (all-time FAV) Ess-a-Bagel in New York: big, barely any hole, tight skin, and chewy, slightly sour interior. Owner tells me they're definitely boiled, then baked, which you can taste. The wheat Everything is pretty awesome. So happy to have Bagel Love in the 'hood.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on March 06, 2012, 09:04:56 AM
Quote from: grimss on March 06, 2012, 08:39:49 AM
I've been there multiple times and think the bagels are great. They remind me a bit of (all-time FAV) Ess-a-Bagel in New York: big, barely any hole, tight skin, and chewy, slightly sour interior. Owner tells me they're definitely boiled, then baked, which you can taste. The wheat Everything is pretty awesome. So happy to have Bagel Love in the 'hood.

+1.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: CG7 on March 06, 2012, 09:32:05 AM
I wouldn't know a real bagel if you hit me in the head with it, but I do know whatever it was I had at Bagel Love Saturday was really good, and the honey vanilla spread was awesome.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: Bativac on March 06, 2012, 09:49:54 AM
Quote from: ben says on March 06, 2012, 08:25:18 AM
Quote from: WmNussbaum on March 06, 2012, 08:02:58 AM
QuoteIf your bagel doesn't look like it was hand formed and both ends joined together..(Shudder..hole cut out) it might not be real.
A real bagel has a chewy crust and soft But chewy inside,usually with large bubbles to trap more shmear.
A real bagel should leave your jaw hurting slightly from chewing.

Right on! You may well like what they are serving, but it ain't bagels. If you want bagels, try Panera or Einstein's - they're much closer to the real deal.

OK I was agreeing with you until you go to the "if you want bagels, try Panera or Einstein's".....you're joking, right?

I'm gonna say this and I don't care who knows it. I love Panera's bagels. AND their light roast coffee. (Plus they're close to my office)

I said it, and now I feel like a great weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: WmNussbaum on March 07, 2012, 07:46:45 AM
Honey vanilla spread on a bagel??? Why not jelly?? C'mon, buy some lox and put on top of the cream cheese, add some finely diced onion and you'll be in heaven. BTW, lox is (are?) lightly salted smoked salmon.

Ben Says: I said "close to the real deal." What's your recommended place in town and why?
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: CG7 on March 07, 2012, 08:16:44 AM
okay next time I'll put jelly....sheeesh
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on March 07, 2012, 09:01:29 AM
Quote from: WmNussbaum on March 07, 2012, 07:46:45 AM
Honey vanilla spread on a bagel??? Why not jelly?? C'mon, buy some lox and put on top of the cream cheese, add some finely diced onion and you'll be in heaven. BTW, lox is (are?) lightly salted smoked salmon.

Ben Says: I said "close to the real deal." What's your recommended place in town and why?

In town? Well...not Panera or Einstein. Eisten: way too doughy, not crispy outside, reminiscent of bread. Panera: factory frozen, also tastes too much like bread. Healthy bagel: terrible. Bagel world: 3/5 stars. Bagel love: 4/5.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: jaxlore on April 09, 2012, 05:17:44 PM
went there this weekend. really enjoyed it. Had two bagel sandwich's loaded to the max with tempeh, avacodo etc quite tasty will be back.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: MusicMan on April 09, 2012, 06:37:08 PM
Did a "Consumers Report" style side by side with Einstein Bagels a couple weekends ago.

Ordered a cinnamon raisin , one each from both stores, split them open and set them side by side.

Liked the size and feel of the BL product, slightly larger than EB.
Tasted great and had a good texture.
I usually enjoy Einstein, it's the bagel my kids love.
They were not too turned on by BL , so I got to eat it all.

Biggest difference was EB had 2-3 times more raisins inside. So my suggestion is to BL to kick up the
raisin count in their cinnamon RAISIN bagel. Other than that I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: Know Growth on April 09, 2012, 07:30:17 PM
Quote from: ben says on March 01, 2012, 09:32:28 AM
Quote from: riverside planner on March 01, 2012, 09:31:08 AM
Where exactly are they located?

Near Harpoon Louie's and Fishweir Creek. Herschel, too.

peeling a bagel here so to speak........
South of Fishweir Creek,just a wee bit,and therefore not officially Avondale.

Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on April 09, 2012, 07:49:22 PM
Huge fan of bagel love....there are a few things that don't do it for me, i.e. weak coffee, not a lot of coffee options, inconsistent food and service, terrible whitefish salad, bad veggie cream cheese (i think they use olives in their veggie--mortal sin in my book), BUT, i think on the whole, it's good food and better for the neighborhood. Also, love the owners...super nice and mean well.
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: Ernest Street on April 09, 2012, 08:30:46 PM
I have been late in stopping by Bagel Love, but I give them huge credit for not being a chain store and making fake dough bagels like Einstiens.
Dessert Bagels ruffle my feathers...if you want sugar go get a fried donut.
Anyone know how much a dozen in a bag would be?
Title: Re: Bagel Love - Avondale
Post by: ben says on April 09, 2012, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: Ernest Street on April 09, 2012, 08:30:46 PM
I have been late in stopping by Bagel Love, but I give them huge credit for not being a chain store and making fake dough bagels like Einstiens.
Dessert Bagels ruffle my feathers...if you want sugar go get a fried donut.
Anyone know how much a dozen in a bag would be?

Can't help agreeing with everything you said. I must admit, the "dessert bagels" comment made me laugh. Are you from the North? These sentiments you're expressing re: bagels may get you in trouble down here.

1-Einsteins sucks, end of story. I mean common, they're just bread with a hole cut in the middle. Last time I was I had to request that they triple toast my bagel (yes, triple) to make it even slightly resemble what a bagel should taste like.

2-Never understood sweet bagels. +1 on your fried donut recommendation.

3-Don't remember how much the dozen is...think its somewhere between 8-10?

FYI-the bagel dough at BL is not fresh or made on property--it's made in Titusville and flash frozen/shipped. Hey, at least they're boiled then baked.