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Title: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: marksjax on February 16, 2012, 11:17:23 PM
This is from the Times Union:
http://news.jacksonville.com/govtsalaries/
Big winner here is John Delaney by far.
Guess we know why the state wants to raise tuition! And don't forget he is a triple dipper for retirement: State Attorney Prosecutor, Mayor and now UNF President. Not bad, not bad at all for a 'public servant'.
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: duvaldude08 on February 16, 2012, 11:42:53 PM
Quite a few JEA employees, but yet they wanted pay raises???!? Get Real JEA.
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: Garden guy on February 17, 2012, 07:12:41 AM
JEA and its employees have been milking this city since its inception..
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: Ajax on February 17, 2012, 09:15:22 AM
Quote from: marksjax on February 16, 2012, 11:17:23 PM
This is from the Times Union:
http://news.jacksonville.com/govtsalaries/
Big winner here is John Delaney by far.
Guess we know why the state wants to raise tuition! And don't forget he is a triple dipper for retirement: State Attorney Prosecutor, Mayor and now UNF President. Not bad, not bad at all for a 'public servant'.

Wow.  I didn't realize university presidents made that much.  But it looks like that's the going rate.  I'll say this for Delaney: they are doing great things over there at UNF. 

http://www.eaglenews.org/comparison-florida-public-university-presidential-salaries-1.2633248 (http://www.eaglenews.org/comparison-florida-public-university-presidential-salaries-1.2633248)
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: Jason on February 17, 2012, 09:22:52 AM
Why would Rick Scott's salary be listed as "$0.06"????
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: RiversideHusker on February 17, 2012, 09:37:21 AM
Wow, JEA looks like the place to work, with median salary of around $68,000. I'm shocked at how much overtime some of those JEA employees are racking up; I'm especially curious to know what Paul Patterson & Maria Benavides do that allows them to each rack up nearly $60,000 in overtime!
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: tufsu1 on February 17, 2012, 09:38:08 AM
because he pretty much refused to take a salary...but as a state emplyee, he needed to be in the system
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: finehoe on February 17, 2012, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 17, 2012, 09:38:08 AM
because he pretty much refused to take a salary...but as a state emplyee, he needed to be in the system

I guess he bilked enough out of Medicare with his fraudulent billing that he doesn't need a salary.
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: duvaldude08 on February 17, 2012, 10:07:05 AM
Quote from: Garden guy on February 17, 2012, 07:12:41 AM
JEA and its employees have been milking this city since its inception..

Well not this time around. Seeing this makes me even more happy that the council shot down their pay raises. This is ridiculous
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: bill on February 17, 2012, 10:15:11 AM
Quote from: RiversideHusker on February 17, 2012, 09:37:21 AM
Wow, JEA looks like the place to work, with median salary of around $68,000. I'm shocked at how much overtime some of those JEA employees are racking up; I'm especially curious to know what Paul Patterson & Maria Benavides do that allows them to each rack up nearly $60,000 in overtime!

Yeah when you see the numbers the unions forge themselves a pretty sweet deal. That is why they destroy their industries.
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: wsansewjs on February 17, 2012, 10:39:12 AM
John Delaney deserves that half million dollar salary because he is doing a damn good job carrying the vision and making it reality for University of North Florida.

-Josh
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: tufsu1 on February 17, 2012, 11:16:43 AM
^ maybe so, but that's the same logic every corporate exec uses....along with comparing their salaries with their contemporaries

truth be told, salaries for university presidents in Florida has more than doubled over the last 10+ years....back in the late 1990's, there was outrage when UF and FSU presidents got $300,000 salaries....now both are well over $600,000.

and students wonder why tuition increases 10+ percent every year
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: mtraininjax on February 17, 2012, 01:07:58 PM
Check out the JTA salaries, see how much Blalock makes for his mistakes! Incredible.
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: David on February 17, 2012, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: RiversideHusker on February 17, 2012, 09:37:21 AM
Wow, JEA looks like the place to work, with median salary of around $68,000. I'm shocked at how much overtime some of those JEA employees are racking up; I'm especially curious to know what Paul Patterson & Maria Benavides do that allows them to each rack up nearly $60,000 in overtime!

It was pretty sweet when I worked there. You had quarterly safety bonuses, annual bonuses & cost of living raises. My old boss made 25k+ in OT according these numbers.

They did cut a lot of payroll (I was one of them) so that was their way of justifying the raises. If you get on as a civil service employee, you've got it made. A lot of JEA employees were working under the "JEA Temp" label, so they didn't get all the sweet pension and medical benefits civil service gets.

It's nice to be back in a private company again. I'm not defending JEA by any means, but it's weird having your salary information published for all to see. Plus when everything's public like that it takes office politics to a whole new level.

PASS!
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: finehoe on February 17, 2012, 02:36:08 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on February 17, 2012, 01:07:58 PM
Check out the JTA salaries, see how much Blalock makes for his mistakes! Incredible.

This is par for the course in the corporate world, so why not JTA?

Charles Prince resigned as CEO of Citgroup after announcing the bank would need an additional $8 billion to $11 billion in write-downs related to sub-prime mortgages gone bad. Prince left with a princely $30 million in pension, stock awards, and stock options, along with an office, car, and a driver for five years.

Stanley O’Neal’s five-year tenure as CEO of Merrill Lynch ended about the same time, when it became clear Merrill would have to take tens of billions in write-downs on bad sub-prime mortgages and be bought up at a fire-sale price by Bank of America. O’Neal got a payout worth $162 million.

Philip Purcell, who left Morgan Stanley in 2005 after a shareholder revolt against him, took away $43.9 million plus $250,000 a year for life.

Pay-for-failure extends far beyond Wall Street. In a study released last week, GMI, a well-regarded research firm that monitors executive pay, analyzed the largest severance packages received by ex-CEOs since 2000.

On the list: Thomas E. Freston, who lasted just nine months as CEO of Viacom before being terminated, and left with a walk-away package of $101 million.

Also William D. McGuire, who in 2006 was forced to resign as CEO of UnitedHealth over a stock-options scandal, and for his troubles got pay package worth $286 million.

And Hank A. McKinnell, Jr.’s, whose five-year tenure as CEO of Pfizer was marked by a $140 billion drop in Pfizer’s stock market value. Notwithstanding, McKinnell walked away with a payout of nearly $200 million, free lifetime medical coverage, and an annual pension of $6.5 million. (At Pfizer’s 2006 annual meeting a plane flew overhead towing a banner reading “Give it back, Hank!”)

Not to forget Douglas Ivester of Coca Cola, who stepped down as CEO in 2000 after a period of stagnant growth and declining earnings, with an exit package worth $120 million.

If anything, pay for failure is on the rise. Last September, Leo Apotheker was shown the door at Hewlett-Packard, with an exit package worth $13 million. Stephen Hilbert left Conseco with an estimated $72 million even though value of Conseco’s stock during his tenure sank from $57 to $5 a share on its way to bankruptcy.

Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: Doctor_K on February 17, 2012, 02:38:55 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 17, 2012, 11:16:43 AM
^ maybe so, but that's the same logic every corporate exec uses....along with comparing their salaries with their contemporaries

truth be told, salaries for university presidents in Florida has more than doubled over the last 10+ years....back in the late 1990's, there was outrage when UF and FSU presidents got $300,000 salaries....now both are well over $600,000.

and students wonder why tuition increases 10+ percent every year

I don't disagree, in principle... But there's fuzzy math afoot here.

Consider one person making $600K, but then there's quite literally tens of thousands of students enrolled in the school.  One person's salary alone does NOT affect tuition like that.

Brand new, luxury-style, on-campus apartments, new sports complexes/stadia, new educational buildings, and the outrageous construction costs for all of those?  Now *that* affects tuition.
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: Doctor_K on February 17, 2012, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on February 17, 2012, 01:07:58 PM
Check out the JTA salaries, see how much Blalock makes for his mistakes! Incredible.

+1
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: cityimrov on February 17, 2012, 02:50:15 PM
I don't this.  Is this city so poor that a $60k salary is OVERPAID?  A $600k executive salary is considered rich? 

These numbers are pathetic for a major US city and watching everyone fight over them is even more pathetic.  We should not be fighting over this but we should be outraged about why our salaries are so low!

$60k should be our average salary!  Why isn't it? 
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: exnewsman on February 17, 2012, 03:31:12 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 17, 2012, 11:16:43 AM
^ maybe so, but that's the same logic every corporate exec uses....along with comparing their salaries with their contemporaries

truth be told, salaries for university presidents in Florida has more than doubled over the last 10+ years....back in the late 1990's, there was outrage when UF and FSU presidents got $300,000 salaries....now both are well over $600,000.

and students wonder why tuition increases 10+ percent every year

Football coaches are making millions and nobody complains about that. The University presidents are responsible for the entire student body - education and building them, yet they make a percentage of what the coaches make.
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: David on February 17, 2012, 03:50:31 PM
60k is above average for Jax. There's several different stats, but the median household income is around 48k going off the 2010 census.  It's only because it's public info and it's from a company that keeps jacking up our rates every so often and it's a company we dont respect. I haven't heard too many people complain that JSO is making too much. (before the paycuts)
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: duvaldude08 on February 17, 2012, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: cityimrov on February 17, 2012, 02:50:15 PM
I don't this.  Is this city so poor that a $60k salary is OVERPAID?  A $600k executive salary is considered rich? 

These numbers are pathetic for a major US city and watching everyone fight over them is even more pathetic.  We should not be fighting over this but we should be outraged about why our salaries are so low!

$60k should be our average salary!  Why isn't it?

Well unfortunately we dont have it like that. im sure every major city in the country wished there average pay was $60,000 a year. The problem I have with the salaries is that why we are in a recession and the rest of the city is struggling, you have workers, such as JEA, sitting on chesses begging for pay raises. Thats not right no matter what angle you look at it from.
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: finehoe on February 17, 2012, 03:56:58 PM
Quote from: cityimrov on February 17, 2012, 02:50:15 PM
I don't this.  Is this city so poor that a $60k salary is OVERPAID?  A $600k executive salary is considered rich? 

These numbers are pathetic for a major US city and watching everyone fight over them is even more pathetic.  We should not be fighting over this but we should be outraged about why our salaries are so low!

$60k should be our average salary!  Why isn't it?

See mine and Non-Redneck Westsider's discussion on what constitutes a high-quality job over at http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,14294.msg264180.html#msg264180
for the answer to this.
Title: Re: Local Salaries Listed
Post by: mtraininjax on February 19, 2012, 12:23:07 PM
The only person I heard as a cheerleader for the JEA raises was their CEO, were there others I am forgetting? Dickenson is retiring soon anyway, so what does he have to lose? Oh yeah, forgot that the fire fighters have to take a pay cut to EQUAL the cut taken by the police.