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Title: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atlanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on February 08, 2012, 03:17:32 AM
Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atlanta's Castleberry Hill

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Metro Jacksonville takes a brief look at one of the South's premier urban core warehouse districts: Atlanta's Castleberry Hill

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http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-feb-revitalizing-neighborhoods-atantas-castleberry-hill (http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-feb-revitalizing-neighborhoods-atantas-castleberry-hill)
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: tufsu1 on February 08, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
many up and coming urban neighberhoods in Atlanta...which is why its so puzzling that the 2010 Census still showed the city losing population
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: thelakelander on February 08, 2012, 09:52:34 AM
Probably shrinking family size and the redevelopment of denser low income areas into a mix of uses with slightly lower residential density.
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: Tacachale on February 08, 2012, 11:55:39 AM
^Perhaps they also haven't achieved full density in the infill areas that are seeing much of the development. I know that's the case in some places, such as Gainesville, though obviously those cities have much different conditions. Building for the future and all of that.
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: John P on February 08, 2012, 12:20:47 PM
What are rent like there? what are condos going for?
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: Wacca Pilatka on February 08, 2012, 12:25:24 PM
What neighborhoods do you consider among the other top revitalized warehouse districts in the region?
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: thelakelander on February 08, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
^
Quote from: John P on February 08, 2012, 12:20:47 PM
What are rent like there? what are condos going for?

It looks like the prices range depending on what you want.  Some spots are listed at $99k.  Others as much as +$800k.

http://www.greatatlantalofts.com/avail_castleberryhill.htm

Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on February 08, 2012, 12:25:24 PM
What neighborhoods do you consider among the other top revitalized warehouse districts in the region?

In the South or Atlanta only?
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: vicupstate on February 08, 2012, 01:26:13 PM
Quotemany up and coming urban neighberhoods in Atlanta...which is why its so puzzling that the 2010 Census still showed the city losing population

Atlanta DID gain population, from 416,474 in 2000 to 420,003 in the 2010 census.  The prior decade saw a pretty substantial gain from 394,017 to 416,474. 
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: Wacca Pilatka on February 08, 2012, 02:19:06 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on February 08, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on February 08, 2012, 12:25:24 PM
What neighborhoods do you consider among the other top revitalized warehouse districts in the region?

In the South or Atlanta only?

In the South.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: tufsu1 on February 08, 2012, 03:14:41 PM
Quote from: vicupstate on February 08, 2012, 01:26:13 PM
Quotemany up and coming urban neighberhoods in Atlanta...which is why its so puzzling that the 2010 Census still showed the city losing population

Atlanta DID gain population, from 416,474 in 2000 to 420,003 in the 2010 census.  The prior decade saw a pretty substantial gain from 394,017 to 416,474. 

thanks for the correction...I guess I was comparing it with mid-Census estimates that showed the city had grown to nearly 500,000 residents.
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: KenFSU on February 08, 2012, 03:22:21 PM
Great article.

Quick heads up: The "L" is missing from Atlanta in the article title.
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: Wacca Pilatka on February 08, 2012, 03:23:45 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on February 08, 2012, 03:22:21 PM
Great article.

Quick heads up: The "L" is missing from Atlanta in the article title.

No wonder that "Wecome to Atanta, where the payers pay" song never took off...
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atlanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: thelakelander on February 08, 2012, 04:55:26 PM
Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on February 08, 2012, 02:19:06 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on February 08, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on February 08, 2012, 12:25:24 PM
What neighborhoods do you consider among the other top revitalized warehouse districts in the region?

In the South or Atlanta only?

In the South.  Thanks.

Here is a list of top revitalized warehouse districts in the South, in no particular order:

Castleberry Hill - Atlanta
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Channel District - Tampa
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Design District - Miami
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/1104857848_mtcof-M.jpg)

Deep Ellum - Dallas
(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/images/dallas_tour/DeepEllum-ElmStreet.jpg)

Old City - Knoxville
(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/photos/thumbs/lrg-2693-p1010961.jpg)

Shockoe Bottom - Richmond
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Warehouse District - New Orleans
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West End - Dallas
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Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atlanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: peestandingup on February 09, 2012, 11:56:19 PM
Atlanta's is probably my least favorite of all of them. I just don't like the feel of it & it seems disconnected from pedestrians at the street level. Dallas & New Orleans are much more "neighborhood looking". I was at the Old City in Knoxville a couple weeks ago too & it's nothing to sneeze at either, esp for the size Knoxville is. They've done a great job down there (in all of downtown).
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atlanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: Wacca Pilatka on February 10, 2012, 10:13:05 AM
Thanks, Lake.  The only ones I was familiar with to any degree were Deep Ellum and Shockoe.
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atlanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: thelakelander on February 10, 2012, 10:15:04 AM
My favorite is probably the New Orleans warehouse district.  It's about as compact and walkable as can be and well integrated into the urban core surrounding it. 
Title: Re: Revitalizing Neighborhoods: Atanta's Castleberry Hill
Post by: Orlanta on February 10, 2012, 05:16:31 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 08, 2012, 03:14:41 PM
Quote from: vicupstate on February 08, 2012, 01:26:13 PM
Quotemany up and coming urban neighberhoods in Atlanta...which is why its so puzzling that the 2010 Census still showed the city losing population

Atlanta DID gain population, from 416,474 in 2000 to 420,003 in the 2010 census.  The prior decade saw a pretty substantial gain from 394,017 to 416,474. 

thanks for the correction...I guess I was comparing it with mid-Census estimates that showed the city had grown to nearly 500,000 residents.

Most people believed the estimates were too high but there is NO WAY the city only added 3,529 residents in the last 10 years.  I've seen a statistical analysis that suggests a severe under count. 

There were more than 3,529 apartments units built in the West Midtown area alone in the last 10 years, to say nothing of the rest of the city or the thousands of condos built in that time frame.  I mention apartments because we know that apartment occupancy in the city is very healthy, as evidenced by the number of new projects coming out of the ground.

I've read that the city is challenging the numbers but I don't think the Census is as agreeable with decennial census numbers as they are when cities challenge the estimates.