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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Urban Neighborhoods => Riverside/Avondale => Topic started by: second_pancake on January 04, 2008, 02:45:49 PM

Title: Annie Lytle PS#4
Post by: second_pancake on January 04, 2008, 02:45:49 PM
I thought this property was listed on the National Register of Historic Places, but when I searched the database, there was no listing.  Can anyone confirm whether or not it actually is listed on the register or just listed as part of the historic district?
Title: Re: Annie Lytle PS#4
Post by: billy on January 04, 2008, 03:37:09 PM
Being on The National Register of Historic Places offers no real protection against demolition.

Only a local designation as a listed historic structure or neighborhood offers that.

Believe it or what.....
Title: Re: Annie Lytle PS#4
Post by: second_pancake on January 04, 2008, 03:53:45 PM
I think you have that the switched, but I could be wrong.  The school is listed locally as a historic building in a historic district, but I didn't see it on the NATIONAL register.  It's owned by a preservation society(? don't know if that's how they define themselves), but all of that means nothing really except that if they want to knock it down they have to check with the historical society (local) first, then if they deny it, it goes to city council and the council makes the decision.  I was just wondering how the national government regarding registered historical properties might be leveraged...not that others haven't already thought about this since this issue has been up for debate for a while, but I just for my own knowledge.
Title: Re: Annie Lytle PS#4
Post by: billy on January 07, 2008, 01:37:25 PM
I was just refering to the general level of protection provided by each designation.

I see on the COJ.net section on Historic Preservation that PS #4 is a Local Landmark.

Title: Re: Annie Lytle PS#4
Post by: Timkin on February 19, 2008, 04:38:28 PM
Quote from: second_pancake on January 04, 2008, 02:45:49 PM
I thought this property was listed on the National Register of Historic Places, but when I searched the database, there was no listing.  Can anyone confirm whether or not it actually is listed on the register or just listed as part of the historic district?


As of 2000, it is a named Historic Landmark. It is not (yet) listed in the National Register of Historic places.   

I am optimistic for its future, and intend to see the plans for it which call for saving the origonal structure and adding onto the back of the Building for the proposed Retirement Center.
Title: Re: Annie Lytle PS#4
Post by: deathstar on February 22, 2008, 06:28:57 PM
Quote from: Timkin on February 19, 2008, 04:38:28 PM
As of 2000, it is a named Historic Landmark. It is not (yet) listed in the National Register of Historic places.   

I am optimistic for its future, and intend to see the plans for it which call for saving the origonal structure and adding onto the back of the Building for the proposed Retirement Center.
I wonder if there are any blueprints drawn up yet?
Title: Re: Annie Lytle PS#4
Post by: Timkin on March 02, 2008, 07:56:43 PM


There apparently are blueprints in place for the current proposal of the 55 and up residential facility. It is my hope that I will lay eyes on these sometime in this coming week.

For once, i feel in my heart that this situation is moving in a positive direction and that PS 4 will be reused in the future.  I for one, would be delighted to no end if it does.
Title: Re: Annie Lytle PS#4
Post by: Timkin on March 07, 2008, 06:20:26 PM


A CLEANUP EFFORT BEGINS TOMORROW.....



Tomorrow morning I will be at School Four, cleaning the right of way areas up on the Peninsular Place side as well as College, removing debris, overgrowth etc.  I will NOT be working inside or on the property itself, as I think the cleanup process is going to look best working from the outside , in.

anyone who wants to participate in a community volunteer cleanup effort, working on the actual property, would have to sign a hold harmless waiver, waiving liability to the owners. 

Im hopeful that finally , PS 4 is about to undergo a new Chapter of use.  After nearly 40 years, I think its time. :)