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Community => Transportation, Mass Transit & Infrastructure => Topic started by: Gators312 on February 06, 2012, 11:28:18 AM

Title: Collins 295 Interchange
Post by: Gators312 on February 06, 2012, 11:28:18 AM
Can someone point me in the right direction for plans / renderings of the new interchange @ Collins and the related C/D lanes?

I tried FLDOT website but didn't find what I was looking for, doesn't mean it's not there just that I didn't find it.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Collins 295 Interchange
Post by: cline on February 06, 2012, 11:35:47 AM
There a link at the bottom of this page where you can see a diagram.  It's a pretty crappy diagram but it will give you an idea.

http://www.i295florida.com/i295/projects/details.aspx?ProjectID=163
Title: Re: Collins 295 Interchange
Post by: I-10east on February 06, 2012, 12:43:41 PM
I'll go ahead on and insert the mandatory sarcastically said  'Yay, something that leads to more suburban sprawl!' post. Now that is outta the way, MJ is back to normal.
Title: Re: Collins 295 Interchange
Post by: thelakelander on February 06, 2012, 02:03:06 PM
I believe this is a $100 million project in addition to the couple of hundred million already spent on Collins Road over the last decade.  What will it take to have a fraction of that (say...$50 million or so) spent on fixed transit for the urban core?  A request to spread the mobility wealth is about as sarcastic as I can get. 
Title: Re: Collins 295 Interchange
Post by: north miami on February 06, 2012, 04:37:56 PM
........all such well meaning interest here simply decades too late.

The Blanding Corridor "Investment" ( and insisted related,erroneous ' Alternative' Brannon Chaffee /Outer Beltway- Brannon Chaffee Sector Plan,Lake Asbury Sector Plan(s) ) will prove spectacular.........the death of the dinosaur will prove excruciating,drawn out,and even in the final gasps,hints to death of Illusion,the thrashing will continue,a great dust-up that not even MJ can clear.
Title: Re: Collins 295 Interchange
Post by: Ocklawaha on February 06, 2012, 10:01:42 PM
(http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/mullhouse/images/10-tram-train-access.jpg)

For $150 million we could have had a Rapid Streetcar between downtown and the Orange Park Mall area. Rapid Streetcar is a hybrid of lower cost Streetcar and higher speed Light Rail.

OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: Collins 295 Interchange
Post by: tufsu1 on February 07, 2012, 08:47:40 AM
I wish that were the case Ock....but unless there's a way to run rapid streetcar along the CSX ROW, it will cost far more than $150 million to get down to OP
Title: Re: Collins 295 Interchange
Post by: Ocklawaha on February 07, 2012, 11:50:45 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 07, 2012, 08:47:40 AM
I wish that were the case Ock....but unless there's a way to run rapid streetcar along the CSX ROW, it will cost far more than $150 million to get down to OP

On the west side of the tracks, the CSX right-of-way from College to Edgewood includes former streetcar right-of-way. Beyond that the railroad was double and triple tracked to a point south of Ortega Hills. However once the tracks cleared Timuquana or NAS JAX, there is wilderness that would allow for an angled straight through the woods shot at OP MALL.

Likewise, the Grand Avenue Bridge has streetcar tracks in it. A car line following the traditional route alongside of Ortega Blvd
swinging over to the CSX just shy of NAS and following the same route southward would also be available.

The only really large expense in reaching the Blanding/OP area would be a concrete deck trestle over the Ortega, and the CSX itself. However staying east of the CSX to Wells Road is very doable. 
Title: Re: Collins 295 Interchange
Post by: jandar on February 07, 2012, 03:41:32 PM
Ock that would be great if people were just commuting to downtown.
But most of them commute across the Buckman bridge.

We've mentioned before, unless you have light rail/rapdi street car to the southside as well, I295/Blanding are still going to be packed with cars.

Move the jobs back downtown and the problem would then be resolved with that idea.

:)
Title: Re: Collins 295 Interchange
Post by: tufsu1 on February 07, 2012, 08:07:21 PM
from what I understand, railroads have temporal separation rules that are more than just sharing tracks....non-FRA compliant rail must be separated by a certain distance or appropriate barriers (think concrete) put in place