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Community => Parks, Recreation, and the Environment => Topic started by: Metro Jacksonville on February 02, 2012, 03:17:57 AM

Title: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on February 02, 2012, 03:17:57 AM
Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed

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Ever attempt to find a public restroom while visiting downtown Jacksonville for an extended period of time?  You'll have better luck walking up to a leprechaun holding a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. For Portland, Oregon, using public restrooms is not a matter of necessity, it's an act of civic pride. Portland is home to the Portland Loo, a 24-hour accessible outdoor restroom built to be usable but not too comfortable. As a city council taskforce searches for solutions to improve Hemming Plaza's environment, here is a look at a public amenity worth adding to downtown's public spaces.

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http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-feb-portland-loo-success-where-others-have-failed
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: Noone on February 02, 2012, 05:33:45 AM
Public, Private, Partnership?  I've got to go.
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: Garden guy on February 02, 2012, 06:25:56 AM
what r they doing for maintenance that cost a grand a month?
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: jcjohnpaint on February 02, 2012, 07:34:29 AM
When I was in Pittsburgh, they had a really cool bathroom solution in the Southside.  You pay a quarter and it lets you in and once you go to the bathroom and leave it washes all the walls.  Not sure exactly how it worked, but people loved it.  Pretty cool though
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: ben says on February 02, 2012, 07:53:37 AM
Been to those options in Amsterdam...fantastic.
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: JUGrad on February 02, 2012, 10:13:19 AM
Are there enough people walking the streets of Jacksonville to warrant this? 
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: peestandingup on February 02, 2012, 10:28:27 AM
Quote from: JUGrad on February 02, 2012, 10:13:19 AM
Are there enough people walking the streets of Jacksonville to warrant this?

Maybe a lack of pedestrian infrastructure is a reason for no people? Ya think??
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: Jameson on February 02, 2012, 10:49:26 AM
It is very fitting that "peestandingup" commented on this!
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: peestandingup on February 02, 2012, 11:07:04 AM
Quote from: Jameson on February 02, 2012, 10:49:26 AM
It is very fitting that "peestandingup" commented on this!

In prison, I was known as "peesittingdown". Don't ask. ;D
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: thelakelander on February 02, 2012, 11:14:00 AM
Quote from: JUGrad on February 02, 2012, 10:13:19 AM
Are there enough people walking the streets of Jacksonville to warrant this? 

I don't think there's a need to place them on every street corner but there's more than enough foot traffic in specific locations like Hemming Plaza and the riverwalks.
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: urbanlibertarian on February 02, 2012, 11:38:27 AM
It would be interesting to compare the costs of this solution to the capital and O&M costs of the bathrooms on the northbank riverwalk under the acosta bridge.
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: hightowerlover on February 02, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
well the guy on the bike is stealing all the toilet paper
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: Debbie Thompson on February 02, 2012, 12:15:09 PM
Tough to be a woman who "has to go" in Amsterdam. :-)
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: prahaboheme on February 02, 2012, 08:17:41 PM
Boston has the pay-a-quarter public toilets as well (completely hygenic): 

(http://blog.oyster.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/3454375086_292604fcc3_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: Ocklawaha on February 02, 2012, 10:03:26 PM
Quote...with an annual maintenance fee of $12,000.

Well there goes ANY chance of Jacksonville ever embracing this idea.
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: danem on February 02, 2012, 11:14:33 PM
I'm amused that every single picture shows gray, overcast skies.
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: JeffreyS on February 03, 2012, 12:33:26 AM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on February 02, 2012, 10:03:26 PM
Quote...with an annual maintenance fee of $12,000.

Well there goes ANY chance of Jacksonville ever embracing this idea.
Well if we won't spend 1000 a month keeping it clean I don't want it.
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: JeffreyS on February 03, 2012, 12:34:57 AM
Quote from: prahaboheme on February 02, 2012, 08:17:41 PM
Boston has the pay-a-quarter public toilets as well (completely hygenic): 

(http://blog.oyster.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/3454375086_292604fcc3_b.jpg)
I like this one. The next you know Republicans will want it to turn a profit.
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: Jaxson on February 05, 2012, 03:40:16 PM
I believe that these comfort stations would help to make downtown a more attractive place to visitors.  I also know that the inevitable complaints about how the homeless would ruin these comfort stations will pop up.  I believe that our policy toward downtown viability needs to have more dimension than just figuring out ways to keep downtown as unattractive as possible...
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: thelakelander on February 05, 2012, 03:56:26 PM
The Loo is designed to be vagrant proof. I'm not sure about others that have been posted in this thread.
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: Jaxson on February 05, 2012, 04:35:47 PM
I know that, Lakelander, but you know that there will be those who would rather deny any decent amenities simply because of those few bad apples in town...
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: thelakelander on February 05, 2012, 05:52:32 PM
You're right, there will be those who take that position.  However, the easiest way to move past this is to present facts that clearly discredit their position.  Something like the Loo appears to have specifications that logically poke holes in the homeless/vagrant argument.
Title: Re: Portland Loo: Success where others have Failed
Post by: cayohueso on February 06, 2012, 12:24:41 AM
I hear that the dream of the 90's is alive in Portland.