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Community => History => Topic started by: 02roadking on January 01, 2008, 07:53:08 PM

Title: Suddath Building
Post by: 02roadking on January 01, 2008, 07:53:08 PM
From the Jaxdailyrecord.com :


The Hutchinson-Suddath Building on East Bay Street is now officially listed in the National Register of Historic Places as of Oct. 3. Mayor John Peyton was notified of the designation last month by the Keeper of the National Register in Washington, D.C. The Southern Ferro Concrete Company built the building in 1910. In 1931 it was purchased by the Suddath Moving and Storage Co.
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: gatorback on January 01, 2008, 08:06:22 PM
Suddath is that old!?
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: second_pancake on January 03, 2008, 01:40:02 PM
Doesn't a federal designation like this prevent a city from demolishing the building?  I don't know much about the federal register in regard to commercial properties or if it changes if the property is city owned.  I'd like more information if anyone has it.
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: Jason on January 03, 2008, 02:19:57 PM
It does prevent it from being demolished, well short of an act of Congress.  :)
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: vicupstate on January 03, 2008, 02:40:19 PM
Quote from: gatorback on January 01, 2008, 08:06:22 PM
Suddath is that old!?

A property only needs to be 50 years old to qualify. In some cases, probably even taht can be waived.
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: vicupstate on January 03, 2008, 02:42:34 PM
Quote from: Jason on January 03, 2008, 02:19:57 PM
It does prevent it from being demolished, well short of an act of Congress.  :)

As I understand it, it provides NO protection from demolition per se.  It provides recognition, tax credits for rehab (the best part) and protection from a FEDERAL agency or arm from detracting from the historic nature.

I'm not an expert on the subject, but that is my general understanding.   
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: second_pancake on January 03, 2008, 03:36:25 PM
Quote from: vicupstate on January 03, 2008, 02:40:19 PM
Quote from: gatorback on January 01, 2008, 08:06:22 PM
Suddath is that old!?

A property only needs to be 50 years old to qualify. In some cases, probably even taht can be waived.

Yup.  I did know that much and that if the age doesn't meet qualification, it only needs to be of "historical significance."  For instance, if there were a building built today in the style of the twin towers as a reminder of 9/11, that may apply for federal historical recognition.
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: gatorback on January 03, 2008, 07:39:18 PM
Does anybody have a picture of that old thing?
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: thelakelander on January 03, 2008, 08:21:58 PM
Its the yellow brick building on the right

(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/photos/thumbs/lrg-1167-p1000761.JPG)
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: gatorback on January 03, 2008, 08:31:46 PM
cool.  thanks lake.  what a great home (or several homes) that would make.  Can you see yourself living at a place like that?
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: thelakelander on January 03, 2008, 08:36:03 PM
I could, but not with kids.  I'm a rowhouse type of guy.  By the way, the building next door is being renovated into lofts right now.
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: gatorback on January 03, 2008, 08:40:18 PM
Did the city offer any tax dollars to the project?
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: thelakelander on January 03, 2008, 08:49:23 PM
Its been a while, but I think some sort of incentive may have been given.
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: Coolyfett on January 25, 2008, 10:18:46 PM
Quote from: gatorback on January 03, 2008, 08:31:46 PM
cool.  thanks lake.  what a great home (or several homes) that would make.  Can you see yourself living at a place like that?

NOPE!!! but I can see myself having a few drinks and cutting up on the dance floor with a hot babe at Club Suddath!! Makes sense to make that place a club/disco.
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: 02roadking on January 26, 2008, 07:38:10 PM

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NOPE!!! but I can see myself having a few drinks and cutting up on the dance floor with a hot babe at Club Suddath!! Makes sense to make that place a club/disco.
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It is on the ground floor. A very nice place.  http://www.marksjax.com/
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: Coolyfett on January 26, 2008, 08:08:47 PM
Quote from: 02roadking on January 26, 2008, 07:38:10 PM


NOPE!!! but I can see myself having a few drinks and cutting up on the dance floor with a hot babe at Club Suddath!! Makes sense to make that place a club/disco.
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It is on the ground floor. A very nice place.  http://www.marksjax.com/
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Mark's is not in the Suddath Building its next to it. Its a nice spot though
Title: Re: Suddath Building
Post by: Timkin on January 26, 2008, 09:45:30 PM


It is a neat old building. Perhaps the club idea, but also perhaps mixed-use and residential. =)