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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Downtown => Topic started by: thelakelander on October 18, 2011, 09:34:02 PM

Title: Livability.com's Top 10 Downtowns
Post by: thelakelander on October 18, 2011, 09:34:02 PM
No Jacksonville isn't on this list.  Nevertheless, here it is:

1. Indianapolis
2. Winston-Salem, NC
3. Burlington, VT
4. San Antonio
5. Savannah
6. Louisville
7. Fort Worth
8. Chattanooga
9. Eugene, OR
10. Franklin, TN

Full article: http://livability.com/top-10/top-10-downtowns/
Title: Re: Livability.com's Top 10 Downtowns
Post by: north miami on October 18, 2011, 09:41:08 PM

"...great places in between the big cities"

Is the 15th largest Metro Statistical Area too big to consider?
Title: Re: Livability.com's Top 10 Downtowns
Post by: thelakelander on October 18, 2011, 09:45:49 PM
Over the years, we've had photo tour articles featuring seven of these downtowns.

1. Indianapolis
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/570696932_Bf37T-M.jpg)
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2009-jul-elements-of-urbanism-indianapolis-2009

2. Winston-Salem, NC
(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/photos/thumbs/lrg-6901-p1140321.JPG)
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2008-oct-elements-of-urbanism-winston-salem

4. San Antonio
(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/images/san_antonio/River-Center-Mall.jpg)
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2006-sep-downtown-texas-vs-downtown-jacksonville-part-2-san-antonio

5. Savannah
(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/photos/thumbs/lrg-2364-p1000520.jpg)
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2007-oct-elements-of-urbanism-savannah

6. Louisville
(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/719187576_syXLE-M.jpg)
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2009-dec-elements-of-urbanism-louisville

7. Fort Worth
(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/images/fort_worth/3rd-MainStreets.jpg)
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2006-oct-learning-from-fort-worth-texas

8. Chattanooga
(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/photos/thumbs/lrg-3305-p1060392.JPG)
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2008-jan-roadtrip-chattanooga
Title: Re: Livability.com's Top 10 Downtowns
Post by: thelakelander on October 18, 2011, 09:47:49 PM
Quote from: north miami on October 18, 2011, 09:41:08 PM


"...great places in between the big city's."

Is the 15th largest Metro Statistical Area too big to consider?

Probably not if you're comparing it to a metro the size of NYC, LA, Chicago, San Francisco, Boston, Philadephia, or Miami, etc.
Title: Re: Livability.com's Top 10 Downtowns
Post by: Ocklawaha on October 18, 2011, 09:52:17 PM
Jacksonville is rapidly earning the reputation of a dog that won't hunt.

OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: Livability.com's Top 10 Downtowns
Post by: north miami on October 19, 2011, 05:43:27 AM
Joel Garreau's 1991 work "Edge City" 'Life On The New Frontier' profiled the emergence of 'Edge Cities' as America's next urban frontier.
"Fascinating.....no one has explained the geographical,economic,and sociological forces that have produced these 'new downtowns' as well as Garreau.".                    -David Broder,Washington Post


Only Livability's number 4,7 noted in "Edge City"
Title: Re: Livability.com's Top 10 Downtowns
Post by: fsujax on October 19, 2011, 08:22:12 AM
Franklin, TN deserves to be in the top ten. They have a very nice downtown. It is amazing how cities get it and others dont (Jacksonville!).
Title: Re: Livability.com's Top 10 Downtowns
Post by: thelakelander on October 19, 2011, 08:52:18 AM
I think we get it.  It isn't rocket science.  There have been vibrant urban centers since the beginning of mankind.  For whatever reason, we just lack the political will to do the things necessary for vibrancy to happen.
Title: Re: Livability.com's Top 10 Downtowns
Post by: dougskiles on October 19, 2011, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on October 19, 2011, 08:52:18 AM
I think we get it.  It isn't rocket science.  There have been vibrant urban centers since the beginning of mankind.  For whatever reason, we just lack the political will to do the things necessary for vibrancy to happen.

It is changing.  More and more people that I talk to want things to change.  Thanks in large part to the good work done on this website.  Keep it up!
Title: Re: Livability.com's Top 10 Downtowns
Post by: tufsu1 on October 19, 2011, 09:30:16 AM
Quote from: north miami on October 19, 2011, 05:43:27 AM
Joel Garreau's 1991 work "Edge City" 'Life On The New Frontier' profiled the emergence of 'Edge Cities' as America's next urban frontier.
"Fascinating.....no one has explained the geographical,economic,and sociological forces that have produced these 'new downtowns' as well as Garreau.".                    -David Broder,Washington Post


Only Livability's number 4,7 noted in "Edge City"

yes...and some of the edge cities in that book (like Bethesda, MD) have morphed into very nice, walkable downtowns
Title: Re: Livability.com's Top 10 Downtowns
Post by: Tacachale on October 19, 2011, 09:36:14 AM
I would put Asheville on this list. My favorite city other than Jacksonville.