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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Urban Neighborhoods => Springfield => Topic started by: sheclown on October 09, 2011, 08:39:01 PM

Title: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: sheclown on October 09, 2011, 08:39:01 PM
QuoteMunicipal Code Compliance Division (MCCD) As a means to eliminate blight and unsafe conditions that provide potential havens for criminal
activity, MCCD cites unsafe structures, abandoned/junk vehicles, established
residential/commercial minimum building standards violations, nuisance conditions and
vacant/open structures requiring board-up. If owners fail to address unsafe structure and/or
nuisance issues, Journey funding supports demolition and site clearance activities to correct code
violations. Through the Drug Abatement Response Team (DART), MCCD partners with JSO and
other city agencies to inspect properties where reported criminal activities occur and take action as
necessary

http://www.coj.net/Mayor/Docs/The-Jacksonville-Journey/JJ-Funded-Prgms-Handout--FINAL.aspx

Apparently there are two demolitions being funded by Jacksonville Journey money.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: iloveionia on October 09, 2011, 09:07:43 PM
What is Jacksonville Journey money?
Who is Jacksonville Journey?
How is JJ funded?
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: ChriswUfGator on October 09, 2011, 09:11:50 PM
It's supposed to help at-risk kids, what does that have to do with funding Code Enforcement's demolition budget?
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: iloveionia on October 09, 2011, 09:48:38 PM
Who is MCCD's Chief's boss?  Who is above Kim Scott?  The mayor?
Once again, mama's gonna lose it. 
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: strider on October 10, 2011, 08:26:43 AM
Tearing down a house because a criminal MAY use it for something illegal is treating the symptom rather than a cause. The house did not do the crime.  The house did not make the criminal.  The house also did not cause the blight.  I suspect it is an action and so makes the politicians, police and code look like they have done something, when in fact all they have really accomplished is another empty, forgotten lot.  A shame that is the standard here in Jacksonville.  I would be nice if we were smarter than that.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: avs on October 10, 2011, 08:36:15 AM
JJ is one of the program's Brown shut down I thought.  So this money should no longer be available, not still used for a JJ purpose even though the program no longer exists.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: sheclown on October 10, 2011, 09:08:27 AM
Jacksonville Journey money is being used as well as NSP 1 money to fund this current round of demolitions. 

At least, that is my understanding.

Where are the protections for historic structures?  I simply do not understand.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: Sigma on October 10, 2011, 09:48:10 AM
Quote from: strider on October 10, 2011, 08:26:43 AM
Tearing down a house because a criminal MAY use it for something illegal is treating the symptom rather than a cause. The house did not do the crime.  The house did not make the criminal.  The house also did not cause the blight.  I suspect it is an action and so makes the politicians, police and code look like they have done something, when in fact all they have really accomplished is another empty, forgotten lot.  A shame that is the standard here in Jacksonville.  I would be nice if we were smarter than that.

+1

Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: sheclown on October 10, 2011, 10:22:55 AM
Quote from: avs on October 10, 2011, 08:36:15 AM
JJ is one of the program's Brown shut down I thought.  So this money should no longer be available, not still used for a JJ purpose even though the program no longer exists.

Anyone know this for certain?  What happens to funds previously allocated if the program goes away?
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: Kay on October 10, 2011, 10:43:48 AM
Journey has not gone away.  Why don't you guys ask for a meeting with your councilmember and Kim Scott?
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: Springfielder on October 10, 2011, 10:55:59 AM
been there/done that
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: urbanlibertarian on October 10, 2011, 11:08:14 AM
Abandoned houses don't smoke crack, people do. :)
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: avs on October 10, 2011, 12:48:25 PM
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/letters-readers/2011-09-09/story/cutting-jacksonville-journey-funds-pound-foolish (http://jacksonville.com/opinion/letters-readers/2011-09-09/story/cutting-jacksonville-journey-funds-pound-foolish)
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: Debbie Thompson on October 10, 2011, 12:52:02 PM
I think the media needs to be involved.  This need to stop.  Taxpayer funds being used to tear down historic homes when they are SUPPOSED to be used for at-risk families?  Why? Because a drug dealer MIGHT be using the house?  Isn't that what the jail is for?
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: ChriswUfGator on October 10, 2011, 03:14:09 PM
Well, look at it another way, if the money isn't being used to help at-risk kids, which was its stated purpose, and is instead being co-opted to fund COJ's Code Enforcement budget, then by all means I have no problem with JJ funding being cut to the bone. That is some really tenuous logic that one has anything to do with the other, because a drug dealer *might* use a house so we better go ahead and knock it down using this funding source. Downright ridiculous logic actually.
Title: Re: Jacksonville Journey money used to fund demolitions?
Post by: iloveionia on October 10, 2011, 04:41:16 PM
avs, you post makes it seem like LISC is involved?

http://www.liscjacksonville.org/about-lisc-jacksonville.html