Good news and bad news with this one...
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The Jaguars will be able to lift the TV blackout for their two home preseason games because of a new policy by the NFL, but they have fears they will be blacking out regular-season games this fall.
The league is letting the Jaguars use 10,000 complementary tickets for the two preseason games to get to the blackout number because of the short selling season following the lockout, but that policy will not be in effect for the regular season.
With 14,443 non-premium tickets needed to be sold for each game to lift the blackouts, the Jaguars could face several blackouts without a surge in ticket sales.
The Jaguars need to sell 50,975 non premium tickets to lift the blackout. They also have premium seats to sell, but those don’t count toward the blackout number.
“I hope lifting the blackouts for the preseason games doesn’t send the wrong message to the fans and make them think it will happen for the regular season,†said Macky Weaver, the team’s senior vice president, sales and marketing.
Weaver said the team didn’t get the bump it had hoped to get when the lockout ended and said maybe he’s been too optimistic in the past.
“I’m a realist, too, and I don’t feel there’s a sense of urgency out there. They shouldn’t think the games are going to be automatically on TV. We need their support,†he said.
The Jaguars’ two home preseason games are against Atlanta on Friday, Aug. 19 and on Thursday, Sept. 1 against St. Louis.
The Jaguars blacked out all but one regular-season game in 2009, but with the help of the Team Teal marketing effort, they lifted the blackout for every home game last year.
About 9,000 season ticket holders didn’t renew, and the lockout then made it more difficult to sell tickets.
Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-08-08/story/no-blackout-jaguars-preseason-games-regular-season-looks?cid=hp-topnews#ixzz1UYyo0s34
From Vito stellini at jacksonville.com
http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-08-08/story/no-blackout-jaguars-preseason-games-regular-season-looks?cid=hp-topnews
Sam Kouvaris says he heard the NFL is waiting until the last moment to announce it, but they will forgive all blackouts this year. As well they shouldn't. It's old and antiquated and needs to go.
^That would be great news for us if it's true, as well as for teams like the Chargers, Raiders, and Buccs who would probably be facing blackouts even without the lockout. This is a problem that's not going away, and the NFL will have to determine what its priorities are regarding viewership sooner or later.
I disagree with you a little bit about the blackout policy, Dapperdan. If staying at home's a better experience, then why fill the stadium? I'm sure you know 'why' there's such a rule in the first place. Supposing it becomes more of an all-day, 'theme park experience', to entice one to go down there? But the Weavers are already doing a decent job of that with Teal Town. Plus there's $2 pre-game beer action. Awe-sommmmmme....I guess some people do need more bang for their buck than I do.
But as far as this year is concerned, they should overlook it. They pissed off a lot of fans whether they meant to or not, and now's not the time to be laying 'warnings' of blackouts on the spectators. Perhaps in your statement, you're indirectly implying that those who'd go to the game will go without provocation by the league's blackout rules?
I heard this on the radio and it made me pretty angry.
QuoteThe Jaguars need to sell 50,975 non premium tickets to lift the blackout. They also have premium seats to sell, but those don’t count toward the blackout number.
To me, this makes it sound like we have that many left to go, not the overall total. The radio broadcast failed to mention that we were only 14K away.
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The Jaguars blacked out all but one regular-season game in 2009, but with the help of the Team Teal marketing effort, they lifted the blackout for every home game last year.
The radio broadcast also mentioned this, but failed to mention that every single game in 2010 was televised. This just feels like more scaremongering about the team moving and such. Normally I am a fan of NPR, but this was horrible broadcast journalism.
Good article for all Jag fans to read. San Diego, or Oakland, moving to LA makes so much more sense. JAGS!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/09/sports/football/chargers-fans-fear-losing-their-team.html?scp=1&sq=chargers&st=Search
Quote from: Captain Zissou on August 09, 2011, 05:12:35 PM
I heard this on the radio and it made me pretty angry.
QuoteThe Jaguars need to sell 50,975 non premium tickets to lift the blackout. They also have premium seats to sell, but those don’t count toward the blackout number.
To me, this makes it sound like we have that many left to go, not the overall total. The radio broadcast failed to mention that we were only 14K away.
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The Jaguars blacked out all but one regular-season game in 2009, but with the help of the Team Teal marketing effort, they lifted the blackout for every home game last year.
The radio broadcast also mentioned this, but failed to mention that every single game in 2010 was televised. This just feels like more scaremongering about the team moving and such. Normally I am a fan of NPR, but this was horrible broadcast journalism.
Half of those are being expected to be sold in group and single game sales, Macky Weaver said yesterday all they need to sell is 7,000 to ensure we don't have blackouts. I really despise negative or at least darkly skewed statistics. This is the future of our city for God's sake. I bought an extra $300 and donated it back to the military. It's a tax write off and it helps. I don't blame the people that got pissed off but I sure hope they forgive and don't take it out on the home team!! GO JAGS
Quote from: Dapperdan on August 09, 2011, 04:26:39 PM
Sam Kouvaris says he heard the NFL is waiting until the last moment to announce it, but they will forgive all blackouts this year. As well they shouldn't. It's old and antiquated and needs to go.
Dapperdan, when did you hear this?
Also, Blaine Gabbert is on the front page of MSN.com right now, begin national media attention :-)
Why the hell does LA need a retractable roof stadium?? For those cold, snowy LA winter nights?
Quote from: downtownjag on August 09, 2011, 05:39:18 PM
Quote from: Dapperdan on August 09, 2011, 04:26:39 PM
Sam Kouvaris says he heard the NFL is waiting until the last moment to announce it, but they will forgive all blackouts this year. As well they shouldn't. It's old and antiquated and needs to go.
Dapperdan, when did you hear this?
going to buy a season ticket to donate right now...come on people...those jaguars season tickets are not that expensive!!
Quote from: ubben on August 09, 2011, 05:25:02 PM
Good article for all Jag fans to read. San Diego, or Oakland, moving to LA makes so much more sense. JAGS!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/09/sports/football/chargers-fans-fear-losing-their-team.html?scp=1&sq=chargers&st=Search
That is great, it shows the media has shifted their attention to a more logical choice, but still, BE LIKE RYNJNY ^^ and buy one if you can afford it. Yeah maybe it's a little more than you should be expected but if you truly care and support the team, do it!
Quote from: downtownjag on August 09, 2011, 05:38:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on August 09, 2011, 05:12:35 PM
I heard this on the radio and it made me pretty angry.
QuoteThe Jaguars need to sell 50,975 non premium tickets to lift the blackout. They also have premium seats to sell, but those don’t count toward the blackout number.
To me, this makes it sound like we have that many left to go, not the overall total. The radio broadcast failed to mention that we were only 14K away.
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The Jaguars blacked out all but one regular-season game in 2009, but with the help of the Team Teal marketing effort, they lifted the blackout for every home game last year.
The radio broadcast also mentioned this, but failed to mention that every single game in 2010 was televised. This just feels like more scaremongering about the team moving and such. Normally I am a fan of NPR, but this was horrible broadcast journalism.
Half of those are being expected to be sold in group and single game sales, Macky Weaver said yesterday all they need to sell is 7,000 to ensure we don't have blackouts. I really despise negative or at least darkly skewed statistics. This is the future of our city for God's sake. I bought an extra $300 and donated it back to the military. It's a tax write off and it helps. I don't blame the people that got pissed off but I sure hope they forgive and don't take it out on the home team!! GO JAGS
I agree. I bought my season tickets AND bought two additional single game tickets to give out to friends! Go Jags!!
ESPN LA's bloggers tend to believe it will ultimately be the Chargers. They have a lease out in February 2012.
It still pisses me off when all these pundits (especially Tony Kornheiser, and now Mike Greenberg is jumping on the bandwagon) talk as if Jacksonville won't have a team within a year. They'd never talk about the Raiders like that, even though they've been on the bottom of attendance for years and have a far worse stadium situation. We've only had one sub-60k season--2009--and now everyone hangs on us like vultures.
Quote from: Dapperdan on August 09, 2011, 05:44:21 PM
Why the hell does LA need a retractable roof stadium?? For those cold, snowy LA winter nights?
Yeah, didn't you ever see Crash?
All kidding aside, I am sure one thought it to use it for NCAA basketball like they do in Houston and Indy.
The bucs preseason is going to be blacked out. And I see few other teams really struggling to avoid black outs. The reason I am curious is because the NFL is fronting the 10,000 tickets to teams to help blackout numbers. It seems that's all we needed to make sure our preseason was televised. However, the bucs for example, are still having blackouts. Are other teams taking advantage of the complementary tickets? If the bucs have and their preseason is still blackout, that means their ticket sales must be terrible. Any thoughts??
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/17/bucs-blackout-streak-continues-through-the-preseason/
- FYI-we are down to 13,011 tickets to avoid black outs. There was a huge jump in tickets sales over the weekend (472) and we sold 153 yesterday. If we keep up with the pace we may be able to spare the entire season. I have my tickets! What about you? ;)
^I don't know... was this offer extended to other teams? At any rate it won't help us in the regular season. I really hope the NFL wises up and lifts the blackout rule this season, but that seems unlikely if they're willing to blackout several preseason games.
Quote from: Tacachale on August 17, 2011, 12:19:59 PM
^I don't know... was this offer extended to other teams? At any rate it won't help us in the regular season. I really hope the NFL wises up and lifts the blackout rule this season, but that seems unlikely if they're willing to blackout several preseason games.
The offer was extended to all teams because of the lockout.
Quote from: urbanlibertarian on August 17, 2011, 12:23:53 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on August 17, 2011, 12:19:59 PM
^I don't know... was this offer extended to other teams? At any rate it won't help us in the regular season. I really hope the NFL wises up and lifts the blackout rule this season, but that seems unlikely if they're willing to blackout several preseason games.
The offer was extended to all teams because of the lockout.
Thanks that's what I thought. I pointed this out to make a positive note. WE MAY BE AHEAD OF THE PACK ON TICKET SALES. If other team can barley lift the blackout or not lift it at all WITH 10,000 extra tickets, that means their sales are worse than ours. I think other teams are struggling worse than we are, but they don't publicize it. I think were the only team who publicize our ticket count on a regular basis.
If we have 13,000 tickets left and the NFL grants us 10,000, doesn't that still leave 3,000? Are the Jaguars eating those tickets?
Quote from: Dapperdan on August 17, 2011, 12:46:08 PM
If we have 13,000 tickets left and the NFL grants us 10,000, doesn't that still leave 3,000? Are the Jaguars eating those tickets?
Since those are "complimentary" Tickets ,I don't think that comes off of our overall ticket total. They still want us to sale tickets. I that was a move to get preseason games on TV and give teams more time to foucus on sales for the regular season. Also, the 13,000 is not minus all of the expected group sales either, which is supposed to around 7000-9000 total. (eventually)
The complimentary tickets offer isn't in effect for the regular season, as it stands we still need to see all our remaining tickets.
We had between 37,000 and 38,000 season tickets sold in the general bowl last year and are at 35,000 right now. We sold about 8,000 group tickets per game and single-game tickets made up the rest.
Right now we are at an average of 3,000 group tickets per game, but I'm sure that hardly any are for the preseason games and that there is a concentration of them for the big-ticket games like the Monday nighters, the Colts, and the Saints. Last year the Jags switched to the game-by-game chart of regular season tickets remaining to lift blackouts before the season started, and you could see that the general bowl was already nearly sold out for some games (Colts, Eagles, Broncos), while a couple of games still had 10,000 tickets left to sell (Redskins, Raiders).
I think we are actually slightly ahead in the club seats. We've sold about 7,800 club seats on a season ticket basis and I think it was 7,000 last year.
I am pretty sure the complimentary tickets offer has stood in the past and that it can be used in the regular season too, as a one-time thing; I seem to recall the Chargers, Bucs, and Bengals all taking advantage of it for late season games in recent years that otherwise would have been blacked out. I think there was some talk of the Jags' potentially doing this for the '09 nationally televised finale against the Colts had it not sold out on its own. I am sure the Jaguars cannot take advantage of it since they used it in preseason, and I doubt they would anyway.
I noticed that too. Our club seat sales are up this year.
^According to the news stories I read, this preseason complimentary ticket policy is not extended to the regular season. Regular season comps may be something different.
http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-08-16/story/jaguars-notebook-mayor-alvin-brown-joins-teams-push-sell
http://www.wokv.com/news/news/local/no-tv-blackouts-jags-preseason-games/nDGNP/
If the NFL doesn't do something about its policy, there are going to be a LOT of blackouts this year across the board.
Quote from: Tacachale on August 17, 2011, 02:01:25 PM
^According to the news stories I read, this preseason complimentary ticket policy is not extended to the regular season. Regular season comps may be something different.
http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-08-16/story/jaguars-notebook-mayor-alvin-brown-joins-teams-push-sell
http://www.wokv.com/news/news/local/no-tv-blackouts-jags-preseason-games/nDGNP/
If the NFL doesn't do something about its policy, there are going to be a LOT of blackouts this year across the board.
Right. Its only for the preseason
Have the Jaguars always waited this long before the regular season before opening up ticket sales for single game tickets? I know as a season ticket owner, we aren't allowed to purchase single game tickets until the end of this month I think. Between the single game tickets and hopefully they'll bring back the half packs (Black & Teal ticket 4 game ticket packages), I would think that a good number of the remaining tickets we still need to sell get taken up.
Quote from: comncense on August 17, 2011, 02:11:59 PM
Have the Jaguars always waited this long before the regular season before opening up ticket sales for single game tickets? I know as a season ticket owner, we aren't allowed to purchase single game tickets until the end of this month I think. Between the single game tickets and hopefully they'll bring back the half packs (Black & Teal ticket 4 game ticket packages), I would think that a good number of the remaining tickets we still need to sell get taken up.
The lockout changed everything and pushed it back. It really screwed teams in smaller markets like Jacksonville, Tampa, San Diego, Oakland, St Louis and Minnesota that spend an entire offseason moving tickets.
I think they will be doing half packs. I read that this Friday is the last day for full season tickets and that the half packs, etc etc will start next week.