QuoteAt Chrysler's Jefferson North Assembly plant, where President Obama once said that our tax dollars wouldn't be going to waste, United Auto Workers (UAW) union employees were busted drinking booze and smoking marijuana during their lunch break. 15 employees were caught in the act when a reporter followed union workers to the liquor store, then to the park, where they passed around joints and threw back some beer. This seems all too fitting - booze, drugs, and taxpayer dollars. Only in America.
Adding to the fun is that the UAW has a majority control of Chrysler after the bailout. People may be asking, what does the UAW and even the federal government know about running an automobile company? Well, nothing. But the unions do know how to pay enormous benefits that eventually helped lead to the bankruptcies of GM and Chrysler.
For 10 days, a reporter documented their activities. After consuming alcohol, the union workers went back to work at the Chrysler plant. It looks like the quality and control division has their work cut out for them.
The most telling part about this story is when the union workers got caught. They immediately knew they were doing something wrong and drove erratically and peeled-out from the parking lot - after they'd been boozing. They sure painted a wonderful picture of union workers.
It's great that a reporter was able to capture this story. The auto union is no different from the SEIU - or the Soviet Employees International Union. Your taxpayer dollars hard at work, rescuing the undocumented President Obama's union friends. It's a match made in heaven.
You've got to love those unions - pay your dues and drink the booze!
video: http://habledash.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=869:chrysler-auto-union-workers-caught-drinking-a-smoking-weed-on-job&catid=45:the-nook&Itemid=59
I think the biggest problem with unions is protecting people like this. They hide under the union umbrella and it makes it much more difficult for the employer to deal with the issues. This goes for people who are just plain horrible employees and others that are doing things similar to this article.
at least they'll have their pensions to fall back on ::)
That explains why the quality of their cars are so poor LMAO
Plus they will have to be suspended until they can have an "investigation" and if terminated then they will file a greivance which will require even more time and energy on the part of managment to get rid of them.
It bites them in the ass when they are injured and go to file a workmans comp case...where they are faced with a drug test or NO claim.
Are we supposed to take a website seriously that refers to our president as "undocumented"?
you can pull it up on about 50 sites if you want to. doesn't really change anything now does it?
you won't see it on puffington post, crooks and liars, or wonkette however. and I doubt MSNBC will touch on it.
Quote from: copperfiend on July 14, 2011, 12:09:53 PM
Are we supposed to take a website seriously that refers to our president as "undocumented"?
Here ya go copper... apparently this is not the first time either...
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/14/chrysler-employees-caught-drinking-smoking-during-lunch-break/
This is the first I have heard of this so I looked it up on Google. This story is from last summer.
Quote from: Sigma on July 14, 2011, 11:57:56 AM
Plus they will have to be suspended until they can have an "investigation" and if terminated then they will file a greivance which will require even more time and energy on the part of managment to get rid of them.
I don't think they'll file one. They didn't back in September.
Quote from: copperfiend on July 14, 2011, 01:13:50 PM
This is the first I have heard of this so I looked it up on Google. This story is from last summer.
That was the FIRST incident... go to the link I provided... read the article... or better yet... watch the local affiliate news expose. Freeking hilarious. These guys were actually doing this at the local UAW parking lot!
Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 14, 2011, 01:15:59 PM
Quote from: copperfiend on July 14, 2011, 01:13:50 PM
This is the first I have heard of this so I looked it up on Google. This story is from last summer.
That was the FIRST incident... go to the link I provided... read the article... or better yet... watch the local affiliate news expose. Freeking hilarious. These guys were actually doing this at the local UAW parking lot!
Gotcha. I just clicked on the inital link and saw the date of the story was last year.
why is anyone surprised at this?
Clearly this means all Union workers are the spawn of the Devil and All non union workers bust it until they are about to die and do not let up until 15 minutes after they are off the clock.
People in many walks of life use alcohol and drugs at inappropriate times. How is the fact that they are Union relevant. I guess we have to hold the hands of those innocent pushover CEOs who negotiated their labor contracts.
No one said that. In fact... these workers were actually turned in to the local TV reporter by their union co workers. The video is awesome... ;D
Apparently, this is a national epidemic:
Two Miami Beach police officers fired for drinking on the job:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2-miami-beach-officers-fired-for-drinking-on-the-job-1-later-was-involved-in-atv-wreck/2011/07/08/gIQAl6Ly3H_story.html
Two Dallas Lockheed Martin workers caught drinking (by local Fox station, shocking) on break:
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/investigative/05042011Lockheed-Martin-Workers-Caught-Boozing-It-Up-On-Break
World Trade Center construction workers drinking on their lunch break:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/28/world-trade-center-constr_n_221978.html
Apparently it is... ;) But be careful... I heard using the "But they do it too" argument was frowned upon... :)
Actually, my employer (a Fortune 500) allows two drinks during business lunches. It is printed in our employee handbook. I just find the place with the biggest mugs.
I'll have a hand of scotch please. And if you see the bottom of my glass before the bottom of my shoes, go ahead and bring me another.
Quote from: copperfiend on July 14, 2011, 03:11:17 PM
Actually, my employer (a Fortune 500) allows two drinks during business lunches. It is printed in our employee handbook. I just find the place with the biggest mugs.
This quite common... if you watched the video... those guys were certainly not conducting business...lol
Obviously only union employees smoke weed, so eliminating unions is the obvious solution to prevent employees from smoking weed. I'm sure non-union employees have never once done anything similar. Nice logic there Sigma. ::)
Union workers drink and smoke. Drinking and smoking is bad. Therefore, unions are bad.
Spotting a specious argument is a skill worth practicing...
ahh and the 3 musketeers have chimed in with nothing to contribute but defending the indefensible. nice going guys.
I think you are confused. No one defended their behavior.
or condemned it
I will condemn their behavior, however it doesn't help your argument at all.
If you don't like unions you can post reasons they shouldn't exist. This just isn't a valid one.
well hell, nobody I guess. what about your airline pilot? or your surgeon? just some beer and pot at lunch is nothing to get in a fuss about, right?
now, if you were one of the owners/bond holders of Chrysler before the gov't snatched it away and handed ownership to the unions you might be ticked. or you could be someone that owns mutual funds that owns stock in this company. not good news.
Quote from: Lunican on July 14, 2011, 04:59:12 PM
I will condemn their behavior, however it doesn't help your argument at all.
If you don't like unions you can post reasons they shouldn't exist. This just isn't a valid one.
I gotcha, Lunican. I have my gripes with unions that I have posted numerous times. My only argument in this post is that this has happened before, so 'here we go again'. Unlike some other posters, I have actually worked for several years with the same company in different states. In one state, non-union, and in the next union. BIG difference in atmosphere, productivity, and profit.
Pot-smoking and drinking during working hours is not acceptable - union or not. Chrysler sticks out because of the government take-over.
And as copperfiend pointed out, some companies allow a couple drinks during lunch. In my experience though, the employee must be in a sales role or management where they are entertaining clients, etc.
take it easy, man.
QuoteWho cares if they are lightly stoned?
because someone made this ignorant remark.
have a good evening
Obviously Alcohol and Mechanical/Technical jobs don't mix.
(I won't comment on marijuana and job productivity or hand/eye coordination/ manual dexterity for that matter)
What I can't get by is how lightly a Martin/Lockheed employee takes his job!!!..what complete A**holes! ...I'm GLAD you were fired!
We stranded engineering/technical misfits here in Jacksonville would love your $48-$150 an hour job...GRRR >:(
Quote from: Sigma on July 14, 2011, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: Lunican on July 14, 2011, 04:59:12 PM
I will condemn their behavior, however it doesn't help your argument at all.
If you don't like unions you can post reasons they shouldn't exist. This just isn't a valid one.
I gotcha, Lunican. I have my gripes with unions that I have posted numerous times. My only argument in this post is that this has happened before, so 'here we go again'. Unlike some other posters, I have actually worked for several years with the same company in different states. In one state, non-union, and in the next union. BIG difference in atmosphere, productivity, and profit.
Pot-smoking and drinking during working hours is not acceptable - union or not. Chrysler sticks out because of the government take-over.
And as copperfiend pointed out, some companies allow a couple drinks during lunch. In my experience though, the employee must be in a sales role or management where they are entertaining clients, etc.
take it easy, man.
If that's all you meant, then why try so hard to tie employees smoking pot to unions? What does one have to do with the other? Do you really think that non-unionized employees never smoke pot? Or do you think the requirement to hit a bong is buried somewhere deep in the UAW's union contract? I think what everyone is objecting to is your twisting an incident involving a handful of employees misbehaving into some sweeping indictment of unions. Total non-sequitur, one thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
Well Chris:
QuoteIf that's all you meant, then why try so hard to tie employees smoking pot to unions?
I didn't, the union employees did that. As pointed out - this isn't the first time. And I'm just as blaming management as I am the employees, but primarily the employees because they are the ones doing it. Also, pointed out in another post:
Quote from: copperfiend on July 14, 2011, 02:50:24 PM
Apparently, this is a national epidemic:
Two Miami Beach police officers fired for drinking on the job:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2-miami-beach-officers-fired-for-drinking-on-the-job-1-later-was-involved-in-atv-wreck/2011/07/08/gIQAl6Ly3H_story.html
Two Dallas Lockheed Martin workers caught drinking (by local Fox station, shocking) on break:
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/investigative/05042011Lockheed-Martin-Workers-Caught-Boozing-It-Up-On-Break
World Trade Center construction workers drinking on their lunch break:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/28/world-trade-center-constr_n_221978.html
and
QuoteDo you really think that non-unionized employees never smoke pot?
no, and that's a ridiculous assumption. but the bust captured on film and admitted to was all UAW.
QuoteI think what everyone is objecting to is your twisting an incident involving a handful of employees misbehaving into some sweeping indictment of unions.
I didn't say that, but if the same behavior is caught twice, then well there is a problem. And its not 1 or 2 employees mind you, but several. And if you will read before judging, they were turned in by their coworkers.
Minnesota Vikings boat party scandal - Union workers? Yes.
Pittsburg Pirate Cocaine Scandal - Union workers? Yes.
Union workers police their own. Kudos to the Unions for having the type of employees who would call out this type of behavior. Everyone should hire Union based on the conscientious workers not afraid to take a stand against the few bad apples trying to ruin it for everyone.
If this thread was in any way trying to express the important part of what happened hear that is how it would read. It has been posted as a cheap shot in a very pathetic attempt to make Unions look bad. Sorry but your effort has been found to be sad at best.