Metro Jacksonville

QuoteLocal projects awaiting federal money and in danger of being delayed or scrapped could include a regional transit center at the Prime Osborn Convention Center,

Oh God! We should be so blessed...  

OCKLAWAHA

This type of thinking will ruin our chance of economic recovery.

Hopefully Mica's constituents will remember his desire to cut jobs and services at election time.

Quote from: Jimmy on July 07, 2011, 07:35:34 PM
This type of thinking will ruin our chance of economic recovery.

Hopefully Mica's constituents will remember his desire to cut jobs and services at election time.

Not likely...........congressmen in FL are congressmen for life. Mica has been in office since 1992........two decades!!

Only death or sex scandal can remove these folks from office :(

THAT is why they don't give a crap about what constituents think!!

Hmmm....there goes to hoped dollars for Jaxport highway expansion needs.  So I guess we'll need to pony up more money to get Hajin and that Zion property super port off the ground?

And was there even funding for the transportation center in the first place?

^All the more reason to scrap JTA's current $180 million plan and go for a cheaper more condensed alternative that restores the Prime Osborn to a transportation depot once more.

But did we ever have funding in the first place was my question. If we did, it would not have taken so long to get it moving. OCK, can you chime in on this? I thought funding was our issue from the beginning?

^No, we never had full funding for the JRTC and probably never will.  All the more reason to go with a cheaper compact redesign.  The drop in costs may actually be significant enough to get this thing off the drawing board.

Quote from: thelakelander on July 07, 2011, 10:41:07 PM
^No, we never had full funding for the JRTC and probably never will.  All the more reason to go with a cheaper compact redesign.  The drop in costs may actually be significant enough to get this thing off the drawing board.

Thanks TheLakeLander.

What would it cost to close Prime Osborne CC and move Amtrak and Greyhound to that space?  Would it be cheap enough to pay for locally?  Federal and state money isn't free.  We're all federal and state taxpayers.

Quote from: urbanlibertarian on July 08, 2011, 11:20:22 AM
What would it cost to close Prime Osborne CC and move Amtrak and Greyhound to that space?  Would it be cheap enough to pay for locally?  Federal and state money isn't free.  We're all federal and state taxpayers.

If Im not mistaken, Greyhound is absorbing the majority of the cost associated with their move (or something like that.) I was thinking the same thing. Put amtrack and greyhound in one building. That alone would probably be more effective than the sprawled out crap we got going on now.

We were driving down the section of Park St. in Brooklyn earlier today and talking about how that run-down area would be vibrant again if the Jacksonville Terminal was a transportation hub again.

Imagine Brooklyn with a streetcar line connecting it with Riverside, the JRTC and Downtown?  It would be a pretty popular location for picking up cheap property and buildings for small scale revitalization and infill projects.  I believe neighborhoods like Brooklyn are the key to affordable housing in DT and something like a streetcar could be just enough to tip the scales in their favor.

Wow, what an idiot. Marietta/I10 exit relocation is badly overdue. There are wrecks there all of the time. I-295 is too close. You have to fight both traffic from I-10 going east and traffic exiting onto I-295 just to merge onto I-10 east.

I-10 west is almost as bad to exit.

Yeah I really feel Brooklyn is key to tying Riverside to downtown.  This area has such an interesting urban fabric it is interesting what it could become. 

Streetcar from the Jacksonville Terminal along Park St. through Brooklyn and 5 Points, down Margaret to Riverside, up Riverside/St. Johns through Avondale to Roosevelt Mall and back again.

Connects to Skyway at Jacksonville Terminal as well as Bay Street and Beaver St. trolley buses.  Regular scheduled express buses to the airport and Amtrack back at the terminal.

That would be the best starter line in the city and reconnect the streetcar suburbs to downtown and the other forms of transit.

The 1950's Called and They Want Their Transportation Bill Backhttp://alttransport.com/2011/07/the-1950s-called-and-they-want-their-transportation-bill-back/ (http://alttransport.com/2011/07/the-1950s-called-and-they-want-their-transportation-bill-back/)

Got to love the picture on the front page of the bill.  It fills me with equal parts horror and despair. 

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Wow.  What's shown in that picture is what we need to be avoiding.

oh my.

This is really frightening.  I see an I-10 marker on the cover of that report.  I wonder what part of I-10 this is?

Southern California.

That sure looks a lot like the I-95/I-295 interchange area south of town.

TEXAS

NEWER ARIZONA INTERSTATE

NEW MEXICO - TYPICAL

Quote from: Ralph W on July 11, 2011, 05:49:44 PM
That sure looks a lot like the I-95/I-295 interchange area south of town.

Not a chance, Florida is green, those eucalyptus trees up on that hill are grown in arid climates, Australia and the American Southwest. However the road doesn't look like California... too narrow, IE not enough lanes, missing the round lane markers and the concrete scarfing for traction in the rain or snow, don't see the warning bars cut into the emergency lanes either. I'd say either WAY EAST of Los Angeles, or Arizona. New Mexico builds very distinctive highway structures and these aren't it, likewise most Texas interchanges have the lone star or other ornamental work on them.

OCKLAWAHA

OMG, the concrete industry folks must be having an orgasm.

Quote from: Bridges on July 11, 2011, 09:26:11 AM
The 1950's Called and They Want Their Transportation Bill Backhttp://alttransport.com/2011/07/the-1950s-called-and-they-want-their-transportation-bill-back/ (http://alttransport.com/2011/07/the-1950s-called-and-they-want-their-transportation-bill-back/)

Got to love the picture on the front page of the bill.  It fills me with equal parts horror and despair. 

(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1d930b3127ccefdc328fccd0700000030O08Bbs2bRo2cA9vPhI/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)