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Title: Walkable Commercial Districts: West Beaver Street
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on May 25, 2011, 06:09:49 AM
Walkable Commercial Districts: West Beaver Street

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Before there was an Interstate 10, there was Beaver Street. This long-overlooked historic commercial district is unique for Jacksonville because of its industrial-market-blend character. Under the right circumstances, this gem can add to the quality and character of Urban Jacksonville without a significant public investment in newly subsidized infrastructure.

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Title: Re: Walkable Commercial Districts: West Beaver Street
Post by: Gravity on May 25, 2011, 09:46:04 AM
While admirable, i think it is going to take a lot more than that to make that area 'walkable' in the foreseeable future.

To get there from practically any direction you have to drive through a whole lot of sketchiness
Title: Re: Walkable Commercial Districts: West Beaver Street
Post by: thelakelander on May 25, 2011, 11:05:00 AM
Detroit's Eastern Market is not "walkable" in a sense like our Five Points or San Marco Square.  It's still an industrial district.  However, it does take on the appeal of an urbanized industrial district where similar businesses are clustered together in a manner to where its feasible for them to include small retail and wholesale components to their businesses. 

Regarding the "sketchiness", that "sketchiness" is actually some of urban Jacksonville's most dense neighborhoods.   Residents in these neighborhoods tend to be the city's most transit dependent and these neighborhoods don't have businesses like grocery stores and other retailers within walking distance.  By improving the vitality of Beaver Street, you also encourage and stimulate economic revitalization, development opportunities and job creation for adjacent Northside residents.  Thinking about it from this angle, how you describe Beaver Street today is exactly what Detroit's Eastern Market is.  The only difference is Eastern Market has been allowed to naturally develop into an area where a mix of urbanized uses have been set up to support the industrial/wholesale activity taking place in the area.
Title: Re: Walkable Commercial Districts: West Beaver Street
Post by: obsidian on May 25, 2011, 11:28:20 AM
A quick comparison of the two market places:

Population         
                                          1 mile   2 mile   3 mile
Detroit Eastern Market           17,974   55,121   98,683
Beaver Street Famer's Market   10,137   45,993   94,611
         
Income         
                                             1 mile                2 mile        3 mile
Detroit Eastern Market                $19,988.00     $18,320.00     $17,214.00
Beaver Street Famer's Market    $12,734.00     $15,493.00     $17,468.00
data source ESRI Community Analyst Online
Title: Re: Walkable Commercial Districts: West Beaver Street
Post by: thelakelander on May 25, 2011, 11:33:04 AM
Wow!  I didn't realize the demographics were that close.
Title: Re: Walkable Commercial Districts: West Beaver Street
Post by: obsidian on May 25, 2011, 11:34:57 AM
The income in the post above was per capita.

2010 Average Household Income         
                                                      1 mile               2 mile              3 mile
Detroit Eastern Market                 $37,509.00     $36,728.00     $37,216.00
Beaver Street Farmer's Market    $33,089.00     $37,299.00     $40,854.00
Title: Re: Walkable Commercial Districts: West Beaver Street
Post by: obsidian on May 25, 2011, 11:38:59 AM
Surprised me too.  It shows the potential of the area.  It seems to comfirm that support for the Farmer's market here is much greater than just the surrounding area.  Would love to map their customer locations.