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Title: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: ubben on May 12, 2011, 08:52:30 AM

In case you have not heard the news, there is a possibility the Willowbranch library may be “repurposed”.  The branch may become a repository for the large genealogical collection, which is currently located at the Main Library.  This "budget saving move" was recommended in the 2010 Capacity Plan formulated by a private consulting firm, hired by the City of Jacksonville.  If the Willowbranch Library is “repurposed”, it may seriously reduce or eliminate the many wonderful services and programs offered at this branch.  Yikes!!!

The Board of Library Trustees will consider the recommendation regarding the repurposing of the Willowbranch Library at its Board Meeting at noon on Thursday, May 12, 2011, in the Main Library Conference Center (in Multipurpose Room One).  There is opportunity for public comment at the beginning of this Board Meeting.  The Board will make its recommendation to the Mayor and the City Council regarding the repurposing of the Willowbranch Library in approximately two months.

If you object to the Willowbranch Library being repurposed as a repository for the genealogical collection of the Main Library, please: a) attend the Library Board Meeting on May 12, 2011, and/or b) send an e-mail with your objections to Ms. Barbara Gubbin, Director of Jacksonville Public Library, for the Library Board’s consideration at its noon meeting on May 12, 2011.  (Please put "Willowbranch Library" in the subject line of your e-mail.)  Ms. Gubbin’s e-mail address is listed below.  Please also copy your e-mail to:  SaveWillowbranchLib@hotmail.com so we will have a record of this neighborhood support.

Thank you!

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Contact information for Ms. Gubbin:

Barbara A. B. Gubbin, Director
Jacksonville Public Library
303 North Laura Street
Jacksonville, FL 32202
Desk: (904) 630-1994
Fax (904) 630-1343
E-mail address:  BGubbin@coj.net

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Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Jumpinjack on May 12, 2011, 08:55:31 AM
OMG, this is a very small library and is very heavily used. There is no room for any more stuff in there.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: billy on May 12, 2011, 09:01:18 AM
have always admired the building
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: tufsu1 on May 12, 2011, 09:12:22 AM
I'm sure Mike Hogan will repurpose it as well....i.e., closing it.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: fsujax on May 12, 2011, 09:15:21 AM
that wouldnt be the only one!
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Jumpinjack on May 12, 2011, 09:21:54 AM
^ Which is why strong support right now for this little community library is important.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: acme54321 on May 12, 2011, 11:07:45 AM
What is with the city hiring so many "consultants" ???  Can't the higher ups at the library figure out how best to utilize their assets?  Isn't that their job?  If they are doing such a poor job maybe they should find another line of work.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: ChriswUfGator on May 12, 2011, 11:43:53 AM
WTF? That's our only library in Riverside, and I use it constantly.

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF COJ?
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Dog Walker on May 12, 2011, 11:48:12 AM
Could it be that the heavy users of the genealogical section don't like going to the Main Library because of the parking and bum problems?  Maybe this isn't a budget saving move, but a response to complaints.  Putting something like this in a branch library makes no sense at all.

We need to complain louder!
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: fieldafm on May 12, 2011, 12:03:33 PM
Whoever goes to this... please post what transpired at the meeting.  Did they recommend closure.  Did they defer?  If they did recommend closure, did they leave open the possibility of keeping community events at the library? 

Thank you!
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: grimss on May 14, 2011, 01:03:32 PM
From RAP's Facebook page:

QuoteWillowbranch Library Update: No vote at yesterday's Library Trustees mtg, but the proposed repurposing of Willowbranch into a storage facility for the Main Library's genealogical records is still on the table.

We understand that the report recommends that only the bottom floor children's area be retained for actual public library use; all other space and the entire main floor would become a records repository--and a lightly staffed one at that. Report claims a $500,000 savings because of the associated reduction in staff.

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QuoteThe Library Board document regarding the Capacity Plan recommendations is not the Library budget, per se, but a separate document. The Library budget has already gone to the Mayor and City Council for consideration. The Library Board recommendations going to the Mayor and City Council concerning the Capacity Plan will reflect a variety of issues addressed by the private consultants in the Capacity Plan, some of which include fiscal matters, such as cost savings due to a recommended repurposing of a branch."
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Jumpinjack on May 14, 2011, 03:12:08 PM
^Unacceptable. No!

We wrote our email to the Library Board yesterday even though we missed the meeting. Urge the rest of you to write your opinion too.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Dog Walker on May 14, 2011, 03:31:09 PM
Bet that the $500,000 saving is over about ten years or so and theoretical at best.  This is a de facto closing of this branch as its use as a regular library would vanish.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: stephenc on May 14, 2011, 03:40:17 PM
Now guys don't go crazy on me but the Murray Hill Branch is 1.7 miles from Willowbranch. Is it necessary having two so close together? The other three branches on the Westside are several miles apart from each other.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Bativac on May 14, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on May 14, 2011, 03:31:09 PM
Bet that the $500,000 saving is over about ten years or so and theoretical at best.  This is a de facto closing of this branch as its use as a regular library would vanish.

So in a couple years, the city can decide "we can't pay to maintain this expensive glorified storage unit," and either tear it down or sell it to a developer to convert into lofts. That's my guess! I also suspect that no amount of email or showing up for meetings is going to change their course!
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Dog Walker on May 14, 2011, 04:27:21 PM
The Willowbranch library is the OLDEST branch in the City and the building is on the National Register.  It is heavily used as is the Murry Hill Branch.  I've never been in Willowbranch when it wasn't busy.

Can you imagine the cost of moving the entire genealogy section, all of the microfilm machines, etc.  You would still need a specialized librarian to oversee the section.  The Florida Collection, which cannot be moved from the Main Library would still need its specialized librarians.

Where's the savings?  I smell a big rat.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Garden guy on May 14, 2011, 05:46:01 PM
Quote from: stephenc on May 14, 2011, 03:40:17 PM
Now guys don't go crazy on me but the Murray Hill Branch is 1.7 miles from Willowbranch. Is it necessary having two so close together? The other three branches on the Westside are several miles apart from each other.
There are enough population to support these libraries being close is you call that close..i don't call 1.7 miles close at all...especially if you walk..but of course it's close to those that drive.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: outofhere on May 14, 2011, 06:16:21 PM
Rumor has it that the Geneology Society folks don't like making the trip downtown and have been working the system to get everything moved to Willowbranch.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: danno on May 14, 2011, 06:18:02 PM
Great.. another reason not to go downtown.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Bativac on May 14, 2011, 06:25:45 PM
Quote from: outofhere on May 14, 2011, 06:16:21 PM
Rumor has it that the Geneology Society folks don't like making the trip downtown and have been working the system to get everything moved to Willowbranch.

Another group of Jacksonville citizens who are anti-downtown. Let's just take everything out of downtown and put it in the suburbs. Yeah, I know, Riverside isn't exactly a suburb, but still.

How many members of the Genealogy Society contribute to political campaigns?
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Garden guy on May 14, 2011, 06:38:26 PM
Quote from: Bativac on May 14, 2011, 06:25:45 PM
Quote from: outofhere on May 14, 2011, 06:16:21 PM
Rumor has it that the Geneology Society folks don't like making the trip downtown and have been working the system to get everything moved to Willowbranch.

Another group of Jacksonville citizens who are anti-downtown. Let's just take everything out of downtown and put it in the suburbs. Yeah, I know, Riverside isn't exactly a suburb, but still.

How many members of the Genealogy Society contribute to political campaigns?

Just another reason to get out the vote for Al because Mike could care less about downtown or anything that is'nt stuffing his pockets with cash...
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Timkin on May 14, 2011, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: Dog Walker on May 14, 2011, 04:27:21 PM
The Willowbranch library is the OLDEST branch in the City and the building is on the National Register.  It is heavily used as is the Murry Hill Branch.  I've never been in Willowbranch when it wasn't busy.

Can you imagine the cost of moving the entire genealogy section, all of the microfilm machines, etc.  You would still need a specialized librarian to oversee the section.  The Florida Collection, which cannot be moved from the Main Library would still need its specialized librarians.

Where's the savings?  I smell a big rat.

I smell a skunk .. hes running for Mayor
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: 5pointy on May 14, 2011, 07:09:24 PM
They just spent a lot of money to do a number of repairs--why close it to the reading public now? I use it heavily, and always have to wait to use the computers--lots of teens there, always well mannered. Is this something RAP might weigh in on?
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Dog Walker on May 14, 2011, 09:39:18 PM
RAP is already on top of it and mad as hell!   Their executive committee is meeting with the Library Board this coming week.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Lucasjj on May 15, 2011, 08:30:02 AM
In regards to the Murray Hill location being so close, there is no guarantee that it will stay open when this one closes. The residents of Murray Hill have been battling for over a year now to keep their services and hours and to ensure their branch stays open. If Willowbranch is closed we could begin to see a domino effect that leaves us with no branches in the area.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: urbanlibertarian on May 15, 2011, 08:55:21 AM
From the Times-Union PolitiJax blog:

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/steve-patterson/2011-05-14/council-auditors-say-jacksonville-revenues-down (http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/steve-patterson/2011-05-14/council-auditors-say-jacksonville-revenues-down)

QuoteCouncil auditors say Jacksonville revenues down, spending too high
Submitted by Steve Patterson on May 14, 2011 - 8:18pm

PolitiJax

Jacksonville could have to spend almost $10 million from reserve accounts this year to make up for falling revenues and city departments running over budget, a report from the City Council's auditors warns.

And there would still be money problems at some agencies if that happened, according to a financial summary that became public Friday. The report tracked revenue and spending through March 31, the end of the city's second budget quarter.   

The city's general fund, which pays for most city business,  raised less revenue than expected, mostly because tax payments, licensing fees and state and money from other government agencies have come in slower than planned.

If that doesn't change, revenues could be off by $8.4 million on Sept. 30, the end of the budget year.

On top of that, cost overruns by the Sheriff's Office, the elections office and some citywide programs are eating up savings that other city departments have made and could push overall spending about $2.8 million over budget.

If both the spending and revenue problems continue at the same pace, they'll wipe out a small cushion in the general fund and leave the City Council obliged to spend $9.5 million from reserves to get the budget balanced again.

And that's on top of figuring out how to handle a $60-some million shortfall expected in the next budget year.

The auditors' report also pointed out problems in sub-funds that finance specialized purposes including clerk of court operations, building inspections, stormwater projects and operating the city's downtown parking garage, the Memorial Arena and the Times-Union Performing Arts Center.

COJ has big budget problems.  Libraries are important but are they more important than other city services?  We'll have to prioritize things and decide what to keep and what to cut or tax ourselves at a greater rate.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: ChriswUfGator on May 15, 2011, 10:31:00 AM
Quote from: stephenc on May 14, 2011, 03:40:17 PM
Now guys don't go crazy on me but the Murray Hill Branch is 1.7 miles from Willowbranch. Is it necessary having two so close together? The other three branches on the Westside are several miles apart from each other.

Well fine, then according to your logic, since Riverside has 10X the popukation of Murray Hill it makes more sense to close Murray Hill and move the genealogical records there, doesn't it? And that's a long and not-bikabke 2 miles across US17, over the tracks, and down busy Edgewood Ave. May as well just go downtown at that point.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: thelakelander on May 15, 2011, 10:35:43 AM
In a city, nothing happens in a vacuum. Perhaps we should start by closing those that are a result of autocentric sprawl first? If we're going to consolidate our assets, isn't it best to keep things that promote sustainability? Closing schools and libraries in "actual neighborhoods" will only create additional economic obstacles for this city to overcome.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: Jumpinjack on May 15, 2011, 12:15:31 PM
Stop a minute and think about this. Closing Willowbranch to the general public may remove several librarians who work there. Keeping open a smaller space downstairs in the building will keep on one or two librarians to handle general use. The children's books, magazines, AV, and general fiction and non-fiction will have to find new homes unless they can be crammed into that small space. Where will that stuff go? Sell it to the public?
Some cost savings maybe.

Moving the Florida Collection and the entire genealogical collection to a special climate controlled space in Willowbranch will not be cheap. Moving the specialty librarians to assist researchers in that space will be necessary. May also need more computer access. The space in the Main Library which already houses this collection then will be available - for what?

Shaking my head here because most of us could think of better things to cut from the budget. Let's start with some of the salaries and benefits of our city officials. When will they be put on the chopping block?

Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: mtraininjax on May 16, 2011, 09:17:07 AM
QuoteI'm sure Mike Hogan will repurpose it as well....i.e., closing it.

That's OK, Brown will create a joint public/private policy team to stick their finger in the air and see which way the wind is blowing, only after great debate, there will be more talk about doing something and then a new thread will be built on MJ. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: ChriswUfGator on May 16, 2011, 09:19:25 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 16, 2011, 09:17:07 AM
QuoteI'm sure Mike Hogan will repurpose it as well....i.e., closing it.

That's OK, Brown will create a joint public/private policy team to stick their finger in the air and see which way the wind is blowing, only after great debate, there will be more talk about doing something and then a new thread will be built on MJ. Can't wait.

As long as it prevents another Republiclown from declaring himself "The Decider" and making a bunch of asinine decisions that benefit nobody, then by gosh, Brown sounds like a brilliant idea! I'm glad we're in agreement.
Title: Re: Willowbranch Library In Danger.
Post by: mtraininjax on May 16, 2011, 09:21:40 AM
QuoteI seem to remember that you did a lot of whining about how 'mean' Metro Jacksonville was being to the good mayor.

Stop it, your making me all misty!