Jacksonville Terminal As The Job Maker
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To get a train rolling, you need the manpower to push it. Bringing Amtrak and passenger rail back to downtown will create an array of potential jobs.
Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2011-may-jacksonville-terminal-as-the-job-maker
Rick Scott, says trains are bad.
What does he know that the rest of us don't know.
Rick Scott refused billions in grants because he believes oil will always be the same price.
Rick Scott is a billionare.
Nice article (made all the more impressive by my suspicion that you didn't even need to look up those dates and details). Let's hope this happens!
So in the event that those powers that be decide that this should happen, what would it take for it to actually happen?
This needs to happen. The Convention center as it is now, is a joke. Not big enough to attract the money making conventions and there is nothing, i.e. hotels and restaraunts, around it to appeal to them either. Convert it back into a rail depot and watch the area thrive again as it used to. My grandfather used to tell me a lot of the stories around the old station here when he worked for ACL and Seaboard as a younger man. Would mean a lot to see it come back like that again.
Too bad our city leaders don't give a crap about this issue. We should have moved Amtrak back downtown yesterday!
I wouldn't expect anything to be done once Mike Hogan and his Hee-Haw administration take over Mayberry.
What? A CAR WASH?!?!?!? How dare you propose such a filthy disgusting Communist...
oops, wrong thread.
Quote from: copperfiend on May 11, 2011, 10:47:42 AM
I wouldn't expect anything to be done once Mike Hogan and his Hee-Haw administration take over Mayberry.
Associating them with Mike Hogan is a slap in the face to both Hee Haw and Mayberry.
nope won't happen! Makes too much sense to use a Building, for what it was designed for, which just happens to have spur availabilities and posssible trackage that could be upgraded and a real live train station that could be a magnet for secondary bussiness's and a whole area could just blossom! Nope.....makes too much sense!
Quote from: danno on May 11, 2011, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: copperfiend on May 11, 2011, 10:47:42 AM
I wouldn't expect anything to be done once Mike Hogan and his Hee-Haw administration take over Mayberry.
Associating them with Mike Hogan is a slap in the face to both Hee Haw and Mayberry.
* swigs more Pepto Bismol.. We cannot allow Mike to take over Mayb......err Jacksonville.
I agree CS, I'd bet anything (except for my soul) that this won't happen.
How much does it cost? Didn't JTA come out and say they needed 60 million in funds before they could even turn a shovel?
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 12, 2011, 12:16:11 PM
How much does it cost? Didn't JTA come out and say they needed 60 million in funds before they could even turn a shovel?
That's what I keep wanting to know, and also -- assuming there was funding, what else would be involved? It's a good idea but looks like a tremendous undertaking, something they needed to get started on
yesterday. Weren't there some tracks that got removed from there, too? Do they need to be put back?
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 12, 2011, 12:16:11 PM
How much does it cost? Didn't JTA come out and say they needed 60 million in funds before they could even turn a shovel?
Well it's JTA what, exactly, would you expect? lol
Id expect it to be 160 million.
it is more than just JTA.
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 12, 2011, 12:16:11 PM
How much does it cost? Didn't JTA come out and say they needed 60 million in funds before they could even turn a shovel?
the general cost estimates for the plan from a few years back were over $100 million....but in addition to Amtrak and commuter rail, that also included a reskinned Skyway station, a new Greyhound terminal, an ITS control management center, an office building, and a parking garage.
Clearly bits and pieces could be built for far less
How much did it cost to build Clifford Lane Station (in todays dollars, and when was it built)! Why can't they just build an Amshack there until they get all of the specifics laid out!? At least people could get off downtown instead of in Moncrief!
Also, they could do what the original planners never thought to do with all of that space that they had downtown -- build a connection back to the north, south, and west!
The original planners did have connections in every direction via streetcar, intercity rail and steamboats.