Just received an e-mail that Alvuin is opening a Mandarin office today...and receiving a major endorsement
YaY!!! Go Alvin!
Semi related question: Is there a connection between Hogan and the TPC?? Over the past few days I have seen a number of Hogan signs right next to TPC signs. The signs are pretty big, at least 3 feet by 3 feet.
I'm wondering if this is John Delaney. That would be HUGE!
I believe Delaney will honor his earlier pledge to stay quiet. He's telegraphed his support for Alvin, but I don't think he moves from that posture.
Maybe its Audrey? the email says this person is a major public servant as well an advocate for education.
Not Audrey. We'd have heard about that... (they'd never keep a lid on that news!)
My guess is Hazouri. He spoke at the rally on Sunday, and mentioned that he had not formally endorsed anyone yet.
Quote from: lowlyplanner on May 04, 2011, 01:59:04 PM
My guess is Hazouri. He spoke at the rally on Sunday, and mentioned that he had not formally endorsed anyone yet.
That actually makes more sense. But then again, I'm hopeful this will be bigger than Hazouri.
That would make sense. And a nice endorsement!!
I agree. It would make sense that it is going to be a Hazouri endorsement, especially since Mandarin is his back yard, right?
My guts tell me that it will be Audrey making her endorsement of Brown like 2-3 days before the Tuesday Election Poll. This could be a political suicide for Brown, OR a huge uprising of support that would bring turn-out to a higher number.
-Josh
Quote from: wsansewjs on May 04, 2011, 03:04:59 PM
My guts tell me that it will be Audrey making her endorsement of Brown like 2-3 days before the Tuesday Election Poll. This could be a political suicide for Brown, OR a huge uprising of support that would bring turn-out to a higher number.
-Josh
That's a pretty bold statement.
Mayor Tommy Hazouri is listed as the sponsor of a fundraiser for Alvin next Wednesday in Avondale.
There's your answer.
Quote from: Jaxson on May 04, 2011, 02:43:33 PM
I agree. It would make sense that it is going to be a Hazouri endorsement, especially since Mandarin is his back yard, right?
This is funny. He's a distant cousin of mine and we share a last name. I saw this and instantly thought "what the hell? Who cares who I'm voting for?" Then I realized who you were talking about.
Yep, Hazouri has endorsed Alvin Brown. Now on his web site. I am hearing polls showing a statistical dead heat with Hogan with Brown rising rapidly.
And all the momentum swinging Brown's way. My grandma told me today that she's voting for Alvin Brown. Shocked me. Shocked.
This week at the beaches rotary Alvin brown hit a grand slam!! He picked up lots of votes!! One man after the meeting was shaking his head when Alvin was through. Someone asked him why he was shaking his head and he replied he early voted for hogan and knew now he made a mistake. He vowed to swing some hogan voters over to wipe out his mistake.
Quote from: stjr on May 04, 2011, 06:14:02 PM
Yep, Hazouri has endorsed Alvin Brown. Now on his web site. I am hearing polls showing a statistical dead heat with Hogan with Brown rising rapidly.
which is why the R party just gave Hogan $100k...me think he may be running a tad scared
If you can donate to your candidate may want to do it now.
Another thing I like about Brown's campaign, is there has been nothing (at least that I have read, seen or heard ) from him , defaming or mudslinging his opponent. That in itself is impressive. Lets see how Mr. Hogan does on this particular subject through the rest of the campaign. :)
I try to handle that for them.
Hogan picked up an endorsement today, too. Suzanne Jenkins last night announced on Facebook that she's throwing in her lot with Hogan.
:/
^^at Jimmy, I had the same shock with my grandparents!
I find it very unusual this morning that nowhere in any of the local media websites is there even so much as a small mention of yesterdays endorsement announcement. I have searched the TU, News4Jax, First Coast News and Action News websites and can not find anything. It may have been in their on air broadcasts but I don't usually watch any of them. If it wasn't for MJ I would not have even know that Tommy endorsed Mr Brown yesterday. I thought our local news stations were supposed to tell us about local news events. Or do they not consider this news? Just wondering..
Quite true. I got into a little back-and-forth on twitter yesterday with one of the TU's political reporters. I wonder if the newsroom is trying to balance out the editorial staff's endorsement of Alvin Brown. They did a post yesterday about Councilwoman Jenkins endorsing Hogan. Well, cool, and all. Suzanne is lovely and I'm sure Hogan is glad to get the help of a former 2-term GOP councilmember.
Mayor Hazouri has a higher profile and is a current elected official. Crickets.
Councilman Art Shad, a two-term current councilmember, endorsed Alvin. Crossed party lines to do it. Crickets.
Unless I'm being unfair to local media or have somehow missed the articles.
I saw Alvin at Art Walk last night. He really looked like he was enjoying himself. I hope he wins.
Quote from: fsujax on May 05, 2011, 08:40:48 AM
I saw Alvin at Art Walk last night. He really looked like he was enjoying himself. I hope he wins.
And wouldn't it be great to see him out enjoying himself at all kinds of city events, just mingling among the people all the time?
Yeah, I haven't been thrilled with the TU's coverage of the race either. But that guess might be correct, they probably didn't want to seem in the can for Alvin. It is nice to see people wising up, though, after the runoff. Brown is clearly the stronger candidate, and the best choice for Jacksonville.
Is the race getting any national coverage?
A mention in the TU.
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/timothy-gibbons/2011-05-04/tommy-hazouri-endorses-alvin-brown
well, here we go. throw the term liberal out at Brown. Knew this was only a matter of time. poll shows Hogan up by 10 points!
http://jacksonville.com/news/florida/2011-05-05/story/jacksonville-mayoral-candidates-alvin-brown-and-mike-hogan-attack
Ugh. The one key word guaranteed to make the right-wing nutballs go, well, nutballier. "Liberal."
Sadly, there might be a sizable demographic that won't vote for Brown because a) he's "liberal," b) he's a "democrat," and c) he's not white.
Sad.
Well... This is the first time I agree with the TU message boards. it's surprising that the majority of the comments are in support of Brown. Usually those guys are as far right as you can lean without busting your face.
Erin Isaac gives me the creeps. She's so heartless and doesn't care what she has to say to defame Brown and protect Hogan.
Words of a loser on a losing team ...
So after reading the front page write up on the Mayoral Candidate's Wives, I was left wondering if we're voting for Mike or Judy Hogan? Really, she told him, "No! Your favorite movie is not 'Old Yeller' it's 'Gladiator'!"
yeah liberal because you can't get much further right than Hogan. Anyone would be liberal compared to him.
Quote from: jcjohnpaint on May 05, 2011, 03:07:58 PM
yeah liberal because you can't get much further right than Hogan. Anyone would be liberal compared to him.
;) +1!
Quote from: jcjohnpaint on May 05, 2011, 03:07:58 PM
yeah liberal because you can't get much further right than Hogan. Anyone would be liberal compared to him.
and even this right wing republican thinks Hogan is too far right..Going with Brown.
Hogan can keep going right...............out of town :)
Quote from: jcjohnpaint on May 05, 2011, 03:07:58 PM
yeah liberal because you can't get much further right than Hogan. Anyone would be liberal compared to him.
including all those liberals in jax. City Hall :)
This is pretty interesting. Most of these Jax Business Journal polls skew very Republican/conservative. They just introduced this poll question today, so it's early yet, but as of right now it's 60%-40% in favor of Alvin.
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/poll/results/51561 (http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/poll/results/51561)
yeah if anybody understand anything about these polls please enlighten me. I mean who administered the polls and at a teabagger party? Right if a conservative group administered the polls then they are going to swing toward that side and liberal/ liberal side vice versa. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't buy into polls.
I don't put much stock in these polls either. I just found it interesting, that's all. It didn't show the results that I expected to see based on some of the other poll results I've seen on that website. Now I've gone back and it looks like the Hogan voters are awake - it's 55-45 in favor of Hogan. It's not as interesting to me now. Call it a moment of 'irrational exuberance.'
Alvin definitely seems to have the momentum. Hope he can keep it rolling.
Someone I trust and respect told me recently that they are really sold on Alvin and that he has really made quite an impression on a lot of people lately. Said he is not just getting these endorsements because Hogan is so bad (though it is obviously a factor), but that a lot of people are genuinely sold on Alvin.
Quote from: Timkin on May 05, 2011, 03:31:04 PM
Hogan can keep going right...............out of town :)
+1
Quote from: Ajax on May 05, 2011, 05:20:56 PM
Now I've gone back and it looks like the Hogan voters are awake - it's 55-45 in favor of Hogan.
So far the sample size is about 130. So 10% difference is only 13 votes. Surely we can get people to click on the link! (See link on previous page)
My sources tell me that Audrey Moran has no intention of endorsing either candidate because she sincerely believes that she would have been the best person to lead the city. Does anyone else have any scuttlebutt on that? Just wondering...
Yeah I have a friend that grew up here and really seems to know the politics of the area very well. He totally called the Audrey situation before it ever happened. He said Brown is going to win! Not to sound hokey, but I hope he is right
I like Hogan's new campaign and the spin in the Times Union, to keep it fair about Brown spending more downtown, I like the new poll with Hogan too. Looks promising, as we get to see the final stretch and who is putting up $$$ and who is putting up BS.
I hope that Audrey's confidence in herself leads her to run again. She is the best person to lead the city. Neither of these guys do it for me like she did (tee-hee), but I'd prefer a Brown victory. It baffles me how Hogan's hands-off, sometimes head-sctacher of a campaign is still so effective.
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 05, 2011, 05:59:14 PM
I like Hogan's new campaign and the spin in the Times Union, to keep it fair about Brown spending more downtown, I like the new poll with Hogan too. Looks promising, as we get to see the final stretch and who is putting up $$$ and who is putting up BS.
I am glad to know that politics is once again all about money. I know a few good Mexican brothels where money talks as well as it does in our local politics!
:)
A) I don't believe the latest Hogan poll to be accurate. Consider the source. It behooves Hogan to release results that overemphasize his lead, so his folks don't think their hold on the race is loosening, and to discourage Dem voters from coming out.
B) I truly do believe that the bipartisan support for Brown shows us something, both about Brown and Hogan. The TU editorial board backed him. Peter Rummell backed him. Ed Austin backed him. I find it hard to believe they would all fall in line with a candidate as liberal as Hogan's latest ads make Brown sound.
BTW, I do not believe that Alvin Brown is BSing anyone in this election. I do believe, however, that the other candidate represents the same style of politics that our city has been forced to put up with for nearly a generation.
Quote from: BillM33 on May 06, 2011, 09:59:13 AM
A) I don't believe the latest Hogan poll to be accurate. Consider the source. It behooves Hogan to release results that overemphasize his lead, so his folks don't think their hold on the race is loosening, and to discourage Dem voters from coming out.
and Alvin has also had polls done showing the race closing to near a dead heat...my guess is the answer is in between...something around 5%
Has anyone seen the afternoon edition of the T-U website??? My god, look at the arrogance on the face of Hogan in the picture...
Is that really shocking? I call it smug. same, pretty much :)
There is a natural smugness that comes with being part of a political party and power clique that have controlled Jacksonville for so long. Mike Hogan and his folks seem to believe that they already have the election in the bag.
Quote from: Timkin on May 06, 2011, 01:12:14 PM
Is that really shocking? I call it smug. same, pretty much :)
I find the photos HILARIOUS! Both of them! They look like they are going to beat the crap out of each other in a wrestling ring arena.
Herrrrre comes the Rockin' Teapartyin' Conservative Mike Hoooooooooooogan! In the other corner, the challenger, please welcome Libby Underdog So-Called-Liberalin' Passionate Alvin Brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooown!
-Josh
Would love to see the smug look on his face WHEN HE LOSES (Hogan , that is )
Interesting story from the Times Union online edition today:
"Alvin Brown sought an apology this morning from Mike Hogan for a fundraising letter mailed on Hogan letterhead that Brown said unfairly calls him a liberal and links him to President Barack Obama. But Hogan said his signature was forged on the letter and that he was unaware of its contents and had no interest in making it an issue."
Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/florida/2011-05-06/story/theres-now-gate-jacksonville-mayors-race#ixzz1Lb2jiDEA
QuoteThere is a natural smugness that comes with being part of a political party and power clique that have controlled Jacksonville for so long.
And Brown supporters are just as smug, thinking Brown can pull it out, yet he trails in polls, money and push. What can he do besides bus people to the polls? What new ideas can he bring out?
I have not heard anything new and do not expect to either.
What is really interesting is how Hogan twice changed his story on who the letter came from. Me thinks this campaign has gotten a little tougher than the good ol' boy from the westside thought it would be.
I am glad Hogan is feeling some competition. I too get sick of seeing his smug look all the time. I would love nothing more than showing up to church on the Sunday after the election and seeing him after a loss to Alvin!
I think he stands a greater chance of moving our city forward than Mr 16 pay raises will. But then , you have always been on the GOB side M-train and that is fine.. to each their own. Time will soon tell .. If Brown loses , I am sure you will be here gloating.. If Hogan loses , I promise not to rub it in your face.
polls are one thing.. the actual votes will tell the real story. If my gut instinct was that Hogan was the man for the job, I would vote for him. I don't think he is ,just as you don't think Brown is. So please...respect the position of those of us who choose to vote for Brown... no one is slamming you for voting for Hogan
Just read in the Jacksonville business journal that the baptist health CEO Hugh Green and Regions bank president Marty Lanahan have endorsed Alvin Brown.
Quote from: mtraininjax on May 06, 2011, 02:06:57 PM
QuoteThere is a natural smugness that comes with being part of a political party and power clique that have controlled Jacksonville for so long.
And Brown supporters are just as smug, thinking Brown can pull it out, yet he trails in polls, money and push. What can he do besides bus people to the polls? What new ideas can he bring out?
I have not heard anything new and do not expect to either.
What do we expect from Alvin Brown? Do we expect his campaign to go around scraping and bowing? Just because they believe that they have a chance does not mean that they have the same cockiness that our local GOPers have about their dominance of state and local politics. Senator Marco Rubio coming in to campaign, in my opinion, is the equivalent of running up the score in a football game. If Hogan is ahead by such a wide margin, bringing in Rubio is a bit over the top in my opinion.
Quote from: JeffreyS on May 06, 2011, 02:21:22 PM
Just read in the Jacksonville business journal that the baptist health CEO Hugh Green and Regions bank president Marty Lanahan have endorsed Alvin Brown.
Traditional GOP backers. What does that say about Mike Hogan?
QuoteJust read in the Jacksonville business journal that the baptist health CEO Hugh Green and Regions bank president Marty Lanahan have endorsed Alvin Brown.
That is old news, Mayo President as well as a few others have jumped into Brown's camp as well. Go read the TU rags, its in there from last week along with a bunch of Mulaney supporters.
Now, for some fun...
http://www.youtube.com/v/Oqlp5_kQAAI
^ LOL, that's the most "entertaining" political "commercial" I think I have ever seen. If Brown could market Jacksonville like this, he definitely should have the job. :D
Just in case you want it in your iPod, iPhone, etc... Here's the audio track alone. ;)
http://kiwi6.com/file/xlwol2osrn
Definitely original.
Interesting - no disclosure visible at end of video...
And the video just suddenly got removed by the user.
Why there are SO many videos posted here that is related to the Mayoral race of 2011 that just got raked?
I mean this is from my own perspective, the one and only.
-Josh
Quote from: copperfiend on May 06, 2011, 04:02:05 PM
Quote from: JeffreyS on May 06, 2011, 02:21:22 PM
Just read in the Jacksonville business journal that the baptist health CEO Hugh Green and Regions bank president Marty Lanahan have endorsed Alvin Brown.
Traditional GOP backers. What does that say about Mike Hogan?
Marty Lanahan- Florida Transportation Commission;ardent toll road supporter,and of course in the all things 'growth related'.....banker.
Ardent toll supporter? she is just being honest and realistic about our current and future transportation system. She doesn't advocate tolls on existing facilities. As we saw with Audrey, honesty gets you in third place!