Quote"Mike Hogan has said, in words I find chilling, that 'you run different than you govern,'" Rummell wrote. "Many elected officials find themselves faced with difficult situations that force them to compromise on campaign promises. However, in my forty-two years in business, and through my involvement in political campaigns, I have never heard anyone acknowledge that as a strategy up front. So what is Mike Hogan for now, and what will he be for later?"
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/abel-harding/2011-04-20/peter-rummell-takes-issue-mike-hogan-statement (http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/abel-harding/2011-04-20/peter-rummell-takes-issue-mike-hogan-statement)
What does this mean in the context of Mike Hogan? How can we believe anything he's saying?
We can't, the unions can't and I do not even believe the Tea Party can.
Quote from: Jimmy on April 20, 2011, 06:15:13 PM
What does this mean in the context of Mike Hogan? How can we believe anything he's saying?
I would guess it could be interpreted in many ways (depending on your point of view).
What that statement says to me personally is ...I will do what I have to do to win. Then I will run the show as I see fit once I am in. (Just my 2 cents...*disclaimer...no retail value)
There are few people who post in TU's comment sections are completely idiots. They try to smear and being smart-asses about the whole political process. Some of them try to redirect / distract by placing blame on others or irrelevant topic.
-Josh
Since Rummell supports someone else, why should Hogan care what he thinks? Really?
I really don't know :D
I just dont know how the unions and the tea party are on board with this guy.
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 20, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
Since Rummell supports someone else, why should Hogan care what he thinks? Really?
because Hogan's quote makes for a good commercial!
Rummell is a founder of JCCI which supports downtown growth and Brown who will say anything to get elected. Anything that JCCI stands for, you can bet will be a mouthpiece for Rummell and his efforts for Brown. So to take Rummell's money, does Brown have to speak to that which JCCI commands ergo Rummell? Rummell wants a strong downtown, hell who doesn't, but is Brown willing to tell voters in the suburbs that their communities are just as important to downtown, for risk of alienating Rummell and his JCCI commands?
Rummell may have given us our defining issue. Just as MFC jumped ship to support Glover, will Rummell be ostracized from Republican functions? When you get older, you think differently. In his mid 60s he has enough money and posture, so what real desire does he have for downtown to succeed, other than growing the JCCI?
M-train.. Really bud.. you should run for Mayor with your endless wealth of knowledge
JCCI is a community-based thinktank that takes no political positions.
JCC, the former non-group, is an organization of movers and shakers that tackle civic problems. They don't make political endorsements (as a group), but they definitely play a part in local politics.
seriously..
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 20, 2011, 10:40:14 PM
Brown who will say anything to get elected.
Did you mean Hogan?
Quote"Mike Hogan has said, in words I find chilling, that 'you run different than you govern,'"
Quote from: JeffreyS on April 20, 2011, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 20, 2011, 10:40:14 PM
Brown who will say anything to get elected.
Did you mean Hogan?
Quote"Mike Hogan has said, in words I find chilling, that 'you run different than you govern,'"
M-train will say anything to get a reaction
mtrain would say anything for a right wing-nut to win this or any election. It doesn't matter to him that Republicans have nearly bankrupted our city and our state.
Mtrain, what do you think about the person who called a national progressive radio show this morning and made the statement that the American middle class were the most selfish people on earth. And if you make $30,000 a year you are in the top 8% percent of income earners in the world? No doubt, if he made that up, it was based on the asinine statement a Congressman/Senator, not sure which, made about the elderly in America being selfish, because they don't want cuts to SS and Medicare. Hogan's statement sounds like what has happened in the states that just elected Republican governors who ran on fiscal responsibly, and other such vomitous utterances and have instead tried to destroy public workers and government. Just look to Michigan if you want to see the horrors of modern governing in action. Democracy be damned!
So his, (Hogan) statement should be carefully analyzed.
Sounds pretty accurate , aj
Quote from: wsansewjs on April 20, 2011, 06:36:52 PM
There are few people who post in TU's comment sections are completely idiots. They try to smear and being smart-asses about the whole political process. Some of them try to redirect / distract by placing blame on others or irrelevant topic.
-Josh
They are the Ruby Ridge wing of the Republican party.
Quote from: JeffreyS on April 20, 2011, 06:19:23 PM
We can't, the unions can't and I do not even believe the Tea Party can.
Most tea beggers don't know their ass from a whole in the ground...money money money...except when it comes to our actual city runnings..there's no money...but for elections...these rich idiots around here will open thier pockets with millions spilling out....yet they don't want to pay not one percent in taxes that they can get away with....no money my ass...this city is filled with cash yet it's starving.....i know the answer.....let's lower taxes even more...that'll make things better right?
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 20, 2011, 10:40:14 PM
Rummell is a founder of JCCI which supports downtown growth and Brown who will say anything to get elected.
Anything to get elected? Then why doesn't he just say "I am a Republican and am more conservative than Hogan"? Seems like that might be all he'd need to do.
But calling it "chilling" that politicians lie to get elected (and it seems almost a positive to me that Hogan would admit that - maybe he won't be as bad for Jax as he promises to be) seems a bit much.
Quote from: Garden guy on April 21, 2011, 08:51:19 AM
let's lower taxes even more...that'll make things better right?
Yes, of course. Taxes are ungood. Lowering them is doubleplusgood.
And we've always been at war with Eastasia.
Quote from: Jimmy on April 21, 2011, 09:45:43 AM
Yes, of course. Taxes are ungood. Lowering them is doubleplusgood.
And we've always been at war with Eurasia.
I see what you did there. Truth.