Poll
Question:
Due to the inability for some (if not most) to detect the subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) use of sarcasm in writing, what would be the preferred way of getting your points across?
Option 1: hashtag? #sarcasm
Option 2: html? [/sarcasm]
Option 3:
rolleyes?
Option 4: the color green?
Option 5: One of you creative types providing us a sarcasm font.
I guess it's kinda funny. I've seen it so many ways, and kinda like the 'dislike' button on facebook, there's never been any way to do it, but dammit, there should be.
It'll probably keep feelings from getting hurt. #sarcasm ;D
Combine the creative type and [sarcasm] tag together. So when you surround a text with the sarcasm bracket, then the forum engine would automatically stylize it with a font that is appropriate for sarcasm.
-Josh
Naw, nobody here has a problem with sarcasm!! ::)
Team rolleyes.
I think the giveaway has to be at least somewhat non-obvious (so not hashtags or html). Also, green doesn't seem a sarcastic enough color to me. And a special sarcasm font would also be a little too announce-y. Like, "oh okay here comes the sarcasm" kinda hurts the sarcasm's credibility. I'd go with some type of emoticon. Not sure its rolleyes (huge smile and tongue out, even wink seem like decent possibilities), but I believe its gotta be a smiley.
Quote from: danem on April 19, 2011, 04:36:06 PM
Naw, nobody here has a problem with sarcasm!! ::)
Riiiiight!
No special effects needed - the beauty of sarcasm is that you have to think to get it.
That is one of the beauties of it Doug, but voice inflection, tone and using a poor sounding [insert racial slur] accent works great when you're talking to someone, but not so much here.
You're such a dumbass, Doug. #sarcasm :D
See, without hearing me say it in my gay, Cuban voice, it seems like I'm being an ass, but if I had a way to relate that in my typing somehow, you'd know it wasn't personal, it's just a spur of the moment response to your comment. That I just read 1 1/2 hours later.
Hmmm...green may not be good for the color-blind. I think they perceive it as gray.
Try purple, or is that too gay? : ::)
I don't think this idea ever caught on...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6995354/Sarcasm-punctuation-mark-aims-to-put-an-end-to-email-confusion.html
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Maybe not in the UK, but I'm sure here in the good ol' USA where we're so vigilant with our use of punctuation and grammar. Yeah, it should work. [/upside-down ampersand sans "A"]#sarcasm ::)
Quote from: dougskiles on April 19, 2011, 07:42:29 PM
No special effects needed - the beauty of sarcasm is that you have to think to get it.
+1
David had it nailed with the SarcMark. A few others I came across today - maybe we can each use one of the lesser knowns in the mass amounts of emails being sent to the council in the next few days. ;)
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/144712
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13 Little-Known Punctuation Marks We Should Be Using
by Adrienne Crezo - October 5, 2012 - 12:40 AM
Because sometimes periods, commas, colons, semi-colons, dashes, hyphens, apostrophes, question marks, exclamation points, quotation marks, brackets, parentheses, braces, and ellipses won’t do.
1. Interrobang
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You probably already know the interrobang, thanks to its excellent moniker and increasing popularity. Though the combination exclamation point and question mark can be replaced by using one of each (You did what!? or You don’t read mental_floss?!), it’s fun to see the single glyph getting a little more love lately.
2. Percontation Point or Rhetorical Question Mark
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The backward question mark was proposed by Henry Denham in 1580 as an end to a rhetorical question, and was used until the early 1600s.
3. Irony Mark
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It looks a lot like the percontation point, but the irony mark’s location is a bit different, as it is smaller, elevated, and precedes a statement to indicate its intent before it is read. Alcanter de Brahm introduced the idea in the 19th century, and in 1966 French author Hervé Bazin proposed a similar glyph in his book, Plumons l’Oiseau, along with 5 other innovative marks.
4. Love Point
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Among Bazin’s proposed new punctuation was the love point, made of two question marks, one mirrored, that share a point. The intended use, of course, was to denote a statement of affection or love, as in “Happy anniversary [love point]†or “I have warm fuzzies [love point]†If it were easier to type, I think this one might really take off.
5. Acclamation Point
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Bazin described this mark as “the stylistic representation of those two little flags that float above the tour bus when a president comes to town.†Acclamation is a “demonstration of goodwill or welcome,†so you could use it to say “I’m so happy to see you [acclamationpoint]†or “Viva Las Vegas [acclamationpoint]â€
6. Certitude Point
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Need to say something with unwavering conviction? End your declaration with the certitude point, another of Bazin’s designs.
7. Doubt Point
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This is the opposite of the certitude point, and thus is used to end a sentence with a note of skepticism.
8. Authority Point
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Bazin’s authority point “shades your sentence†with a note of expertise, “like a parasol over a sultan.†(Well, I was there and that’s what happened.) Likewise, it’s also used to indicate an order or advice that should be taken seriously, as it comes from a voice of authority.
9. SarcMark
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The SarcMark (short for “sarcasm markâ€) was invented, copyrighted and trademarked by Paul Sak, and while it hasn’t seen widespread use, Sak markets it as “The official, easy-to-use punctuation mark to emphasize a sarcastic phrase, sentence or message.†Because half the fun of sarcasm is pointing it out [SarcMark].
10. Snark Mark
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This, like the copyrighted SarcMark, is used to indicate that a sentence should be understood beyond the literal meaning. Unlike the SarcMark, this one is copyright free and easy to type: it’s just a period followed by a tilde.
11. Asterism
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This cool-looking but little-used piece of punctuation used to be the divider between subchapters in books or to indicate minor breaks in a long text. It’s almost obsolete, since books typically now use three asterisks in a row to break within chapters (***) or simply skip an extra line. It seems a shame to waste such a great little mark, though. Maybe we should bring this one back.
12 & 13. Exclamation Comma & Question Comma
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Now you can be excited or inquisitive without having to end a sentence! A Canadian patent was filed for these in 1992, but it lapsed in 1995, so use them freely, but not too often.
Big thanks to Scarlett and LeAnn for helping translate Bazin’s notes!