Out of these two, who one accepts diversity more? I'm looking for one who is equal or better than Peyton in this area.
Brown
do you even have to ask?
Quote from: hillary supporter on April 08, 2011, 08:15:15 PM
Brown
Is he as strong or stronger than Peyton is on this issue?
I think stronger than Peyton started out...and probably on par with where he is now...remember, Peyton still had to answer to the R party...Alvin won't have to
Mayor Peyton has come a long way. Brown begins ahead of where Peyton is now. IMHO.
Hogan begins behind where Peyton started. And is unlikely to move an inch from his position. Unless, maybe, he has a gay kid we've not heard about. Then, maybe. (See, Dick Cheney.)
ROFLMAO.... Jimmy! you didn't say that ;)
Brown :)
I think that is funny because all of the positive things that Payton did were not funded by the private sector...Courthouse (I know ???), Laura Street, Friendship Fountain, street beautification, etc.... and I still don't see the private sector running to the rescue. I guess it does not benefit their profit margin.
Quote from: Jimmy on April 08, 2011, 09:44:52 PM
Mayor Peyton has come a long way. Brown begins ahead of where Peyton is now. IMHO.
Hogan begins behind where Peyton started. And is unlikely to move an inch from his position. Unless, maybe, he has a gay kid we've not heard about. Then, maybe. (See, Dick Cheney.)
I don't much about Brown but can you show ares where he "walked the walk" in diversity? Is he the type of guy who is willing to defend someone who is fully qualified for a position but people don't want him in office due to personal reason or thing he could not control like Peyton did (especially if those people compose his base)? Has he shown this?
well I heard Alvin lament the Parvez Ahmed situation last year...Hogan wants to get rid of the Human Rights Commission...does that answer your question?
Quote from: tufsu1 on April 12, 2011, 08:37:32 PM
well I heard Alvin lament the Parvez Ahmed situation last year...Hogan wants to get rid of the Human Rights Commission...does that answer your question?
If that's what Brown said, he sounds like he's for a more diverse government than Hogan is but lamenting it isn't a very strong action. How is this equal to what Peyton is today in terms of diversity?
For example, let's say there's a highly qualified, high moral, and very intelligent person who can fill an important city role (JEA Board Chairman) but he's controversial in a way that would make some in this city uncomfortable (He's Openly Gay). If those loud people happen to compose a large portion of their voting base (Baptist Conservatives or Black Churches) are completely against them and are making it loudly known to the media. Would these two candidates stick up to this guy or would they cut and run?
Peyton stuck his neck out and strongly defended the diverse groups around town. Would Brown or Hogan do the same?
The answers here so far is that Hogan wouldn't while Brown might.
I'm pretty well known as a gay activist in Jacksonville. I've been on the board of JASMYN.org and I've done a lot of things over the years in that direction. I'm out, open, all that jazz. I have had conversations with Mr. Brown and with his top advisors that make me comfortable that if, for example, I was in the situation you laid out, cityimrov, I believe that Alvin would go to bat for me. I think he would stick up for me just like people have stuck up for him over the years in different arenas. That's the sense of the man that I have come away with. That's one reason I'm working so hard for his election.