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Title: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Lunican on April 08, 2011, 04:06:31 PM
It seems as though Audrey Moran has shared her email list with Alvin Brown.

Not only that, but these emails are strikingly similiar.



Quotefrom   Audrey Moran <audrey@imwithaudrey.com>
reply-to   audrey@imwithaudrey.com
to   
date   Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:42 AM
subject   I Just Voted
mailed-by   createsend4.com
hide details Mar 22
I just voted.  Please don't forget to vote.  Each vote is so important.

Please call two friends during lunch and remind them to vote.

See you tonight.

AM

Sent Via BlackBerry

Quotefrom   Alvin Brown <alvin@alvinformayor.com>
reply-to   alvin@alvinformayor.com
to   
date   Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM
subject   Hey
mailed-by   bounce.myngp.com
signed-by   bounce.myngp.com
hide details 1:45 PM (1 hour ago)
I am sitting in call time right now making fundraising calls and just found out we are $1,200 away from meeting our fundraising goal for the period. Can you chip in $10, $20, or $50 right now to help me meet it?

You can contribute now at alvinformayor.com.

AB

Sent from my BlackBerry
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Captain Zissou on April 08, 2011, 04:07:27 PM
I got that same email and was wondering how Alvin got my address.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: fsujax on April 08, 2011, 04:15:15 PM
yep. i have gotten two today asking for money.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Jimmy on April 08, 2011, 04:16:02 PM
There have certainly been rumors of a "big" endorsement for Brown coming next week.  Could be.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: JeffreyS on April 08, 2011, 04:23:46 PM
Like SLY FOX said "Let's go all the way".
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: tufsu1 on April 08, 2011, 08:33:41 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on April 08, 2011, 04:16:02 PM
There have certainly been rumors of a "big" endorsement for Brown coming next week.  Could be.

the big endorsement I have heard is not Audrey Moran...although I would not be surprised
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: futurejax on April 10, 2011, 01:38:39 PM
Bill Clinton? 

It defies all logic that in a town with more registered Democrats than Republicans, Brown is considered such a "long shot".
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Timkin on April 10, 2011, 01:48:52 PM
Well... whoever "endorses" Brown, I am very optimistic about his chances.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Jaxson on April 10, 2011, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: futurejax on April 10, 2011, 01:38:39 PM
Bill Clinton? 

It defies all logic that in a town with more registered Democrats than Republicans, Brown is considered such a "long shot".

The real tricky part is getting those registered Democrats to the polls.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Timkin on April 10, 2011, 03:30:01 PM
Its really too bad that the polls can't go to the voters... Then all they would have to do is simply cast a vote..

I will be at the Polls bright and early. :)
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: dougskiles on April 10, 2011, 08:02:34 PM
So who is the mystery endorser going to be?

I'm going on a limb and guessing... Wayne Weaver.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: buckethead on April 10, 2011, 08:15:33 PM
^I'll be tickled pink if when it is announced.

Such an endorsement can put him over the top.

A congratulations to the citizens of Jacksonville would be in order, and a call from President Clinton could set our democrats on fire!

Ya.. I'm a registered republican, but one who realizes that any party unchecked will plunder at will.

J'ville could use some intervention about now.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: tufsu1 on April 10, 2011, 08:19:12 PM
Quote from: dougskiles on April 10, 2011, 08:02:34 PM
So who is the mystery endorser going to be?

I'm going on a limb and guessing... Wayne Weaver.

that's too easy...the one I heard will be a bit of a shock
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Kay on April 10, 2011, 08:20:15 PM
Peyton?
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: buckethead on April 10, 2011, 08:20:37 PM
Glen Beck?
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: tufsu1 on April 10, 2011, 08:27:57 PM
well one of those would qualify as completely unbelievably shocking...the other one a bit shocking
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: JeffreyS on April 10, 2011, 08:35:22 PM
Quote from: buckethead on April 10, 2011, 08:15:33 PM
Ya.. I'm a registered republican, but one who realizes that any party unchecked will plunder at will.

I am a progressive who thinks your words are wise about any party.  Power corrupts.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Timkin on April 10, 2011, 09:18:16 PM
I would be shocked if Peyton endorsed Alvin. just shocked
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Jimmy on April 10, 2011, 09:45:56 PM
Mayor Peyton would make sense.  The Mayor doesn't want to see Mike Hogan destroy his legacy.  Can't blame him for that.  He should push on through and endorse Brown.  Full circle from the defeat of Sheriff Glover 8 years ago. 

Councilman Art Shad has already endorsed Alvin Brown, crossing party lines to do so.  So, that crowd is inclined to head Alvin's way.

From today's TU:

And yet former (sic) city councilman Art Shad, a Republican who supported Mullaney, said he will be supporting Brown because Hogan is too conservative for him. Shad said he is troubled by Hogan’s complaints that the city residents pay too much in taxes because he believes Jacksonville is one of the cheapest places to live in Florida.

“I don’t feel comfortable supporting a candidate who socially and fiscally is just that far right,” Shad said. “Anyone who runs on a campaign that we’re overtaxed I don’t believe is being intellectually honest.”

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2011-04-09/story/backers-former-foes-look-brown-hogan
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Jaxson on April 10, 2011, 10:57:48 PM
I was quite impressed by Mayor Peyton's speech at the Martin Luther King breakfast.  He sounded like he sought to atone for the wrongs that he committed as a candidate and as a mayor.  It would be awesome if he would endorse, but I am not sure how it would play out...  Perhaps it would be nicer for Peyton to quietly donate some badly needed $$$$ to the Brown campaign.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Jimmy on April 10, 2011, 11:05:14 PM
Hard to imagine it.  The Peyton money was with Mullaney.  Presumably, that goes to Hogan.  But... I don't much see how.  John Peyton does not want to be succeeded by Mike Hogan.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: tufsu1 on April 11, 2011, 08:40:54 AM
John Peyton loathes Mike Hogan
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Timkin on April 11, 2011, 08:55:17 AM
Imagine that...two peas of a pod :)
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: wsansewjs on April 11, 2011, 09:07:24 AM
For the love of Jacksonville, Vote Brown!

-Josh
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: buckethead on April 11, 2011, 09:10:31 AM
I just thought of a great campaign slogan:

"What can Brown do for you?"

Pithy... no?
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: tufsu1 on April 11, 2011, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: buckethead on April 11, 2011, 09:10:31 AM
I just thought of a great campaign slogan:

"What can Brown do for you?"

Pithy... no?

hey..it is all about logistics (i.e., the port & freight) in this town!
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: north miami on April 11, 2011, 10:51:05 AM

I believe there will be a lot of "R" voting  discretely for "D" in this race.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: wsansewjs on April 11, 2011, 11:01:07 AM
Quote from: north miami on April 11, 2011, 10:51:05 AM

I believe there will be a lot of "R" voting  discretely for "D" in this race.

That is what my instincts tell me. I will be DAMNED if it is wrong.

-Josh
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: CS Foltz on April 11, 2011, 11:18:14 AM
If the voter turnout is over 25%...............Mr Brown has a chance! If not, then here we go again with another Republican Administration. I look back over the years and see the things that were not done for the benefit of all of Jacksonville, just the select few and don't wonder why since it is kinda obvious atleast to me! It is time for a change plain and simple!
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Timkin on April 11, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
Well count 2 votes in , here.  Me and Ryan.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: geauxtigers31 on April 11, 2011, 11:20:48 AM
I spoke with a couple of people within Audrey's campaign over the weekend and they think a full out Audrey endorsement is unlikely. Alvin will be getting a lot of behind the scenes support, but will it be enough??
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: CS Foltz on April 11, 2011, 11:22:44 AM
Gentlemen I concur! The significant other and myself will be voting for Mr Brown! so that makes a total of 4! Now if we can just convince the other 50k needed..........maybe!!
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: fieldafm on April 11, 2011, 01:55:45 PM
I have contacted the webmaster but am still getting those stupid emails.... if any of you know who is behind Audrey's email list being given to Alvin Brown... please take me OFF your list.  It's VERY offensive that my information was given to another candidate like that.  I saw nothing on her website that allowed the campaign to do that.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: tufsu1 on April 11, 2011, 02:23:33 PM
I don't know specifically how it may have happened fieldafm, but several of Audrey's campaign staff have gone to work for Alvin.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Jaxson on April 11, 2011, 04:11:32 PM
Quote from: fieldafm on April 11, 2011, 01:55:45 PM
I have contacted the webmaster but am still getting those stupid emails.... if any of you know who is behind Audrey's email list being given to Alvin Brown... please take me OFF your list.  It's VERY offensive that my information was given to another candidate like that.  I saw nothing on her website that allowed the campaign to do that.

Can you mark it as spam and direct it to your spam folder? 
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Jimmy on April 11, 2011, 04:18:01 PM
Sounds like something weird is going on.  I haven't gotten an email (like that) since Friday.  
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: geauxtigers31 on April 11, 2011, 04:20:25 PM
@fieldafm

If you get "very offended" by receiving unwanted emails, or emails from people that got your address through another source, you must get "very offended" quite often. I usually receive 5-10 emails a day from places I didn't necessarily sign up for. I admit it can be a bit annoying, but I just discard them or spam them like I think most people do. Its all part of having an email address, or a physical address for that matter. Since most of Audrey's supporters are likely to move to the Brown camp, it was welcomed by most...and simply discarded by the few others. Its all part of networking, grassroots organizing, campaigning, etc.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: fieldafm on April 11, 2011, 04:33:53 PM
Quote from: geauxtigers31 on April 11, 2011, 04:20:25 PM
@fieldafm

If you get "very offended" by receiving unwanted emails, or emails from people that got your address through another source, you must get "very offended" quite often. I usually receive 5-10 emails a day from places I didn't necessarily sign up for. I admit it can be a bit annoying, but I just discard them or spam them like I think most people do. Its all part of having an email address, or a physical address for that matter. Since most of Audrey's supporters are likely to move to the Brown camp, it was welcomed by most...and simply discarded by the few others. Its all part of networking, grassroots organizing, campaigning, etc.

Thank you for making unfounded assumptions about me, but this week I have had to replace a very expensive laptop b/c of a computer virus. 

Yes, I am very offended by someone giving my personal information to someone else without my consent.

I have put in MANY volunteer hours and donated money in this election... and none of that entitles other people to give my personal information to other people without my consent.  I don't care of Audrey supporters(of which I was one) went to work for Momar Ghadafi or Mother Theresa.

Someone's personal information that is NOT publicly accessible is not part of 'grassroots marketing'.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Timkin on April 11, 2011, 05:12:56 PM
+1 Field..  I feel you man
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Diane Melendez on April 11, 2011, 07:52:37 PM
This is not the first time concerns have been raised about emails and Moran.  This piece was by Abel Harding of the TU.

Email from Audrey Campaign Upsets some Leadership Jacksonville Members.
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/abel-harding/2011-03-09/e-mail-audrey-moran-campaign-upsets-some-leadership
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: mfc on April 11, 2011, 09:12:21 PM
Diane, bad mistake to question Audrey Moran on these emails. I am so disappointed to read your post. by the way, she was for keeping and chartering the ethics commission. Something your candidate opposes. I would leave Audrey alone. She has a very loyal following of some of jacksonville's finest.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Diane Melendez on April 11, 2011, 09:23:18 PM
I questioned nothing Matt.  Simply shared an article from the TU about a similar instance likely a result of an over zealous volunteer in the Moran camp. If you dispute what is in the article than I would take it up with the TU.  :) 

On another note, did the Moran campaign give their email list to the Brown campaign?  Now that is the real question and is not an accusation, just an inquiry. 
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Timkin on April 11, 2011, 10:09:56 PM
I would wholeheartedly second you on that, Stephen. 
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: mfc on April 11, 2011, 10:25:58 PM
No more defense needed. Bad post Diane.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: tufsu1 on April 11, 2011, 10:27:22 PM
agreed Matt...Diane is off base on this one!
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Charles Hunter on April 11, 2011, 10:44:04 PM
Aren't the names and addresses, including email, of contributors public record?
Of course, this doesn't apply if someone was a volunteer, and not a contributor.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Jimmy on April 11, 2011, 11:04:11 PM
Names, addresses, and occupations for those contributions in excess of $100.  I'm not sure if email addresses are made public anywhere.  However, if I have someone's name, there's a safe bet that I can use any number of database services to try and pair that information with other demo information, including email addresses.

If I was in the Brown campaign, I would certainly want it to look like Audrey had shared her lists.  But... I haven't seen anything, anywhere confirming that speculation.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Diane Melendez on April 11, 2011, 11:55:16 PM
Matt, Audrey is no longer in the race and surely doesn't need you to defend her honor. She ran an admirable campaign and conducted herself with grace and honor. She is a strong woman who I would imagine can speak on her own behalf if she is so inclined.  Matt, I think you and other Moran supporters are still in defense mode when you don't need to be.  Audrey ran a great campaign and no thinking person would say otherwise.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: John P on May 19, 2011, 09:11:25 AM
Audrey will be stepping down from her position at Sulzbacher. She's keeping her options open at the moment. On a side note, it came out that if Hogan was elected mayor he would have severely cut city spending to Sulzbacher turning into a daycenter only. Can you imagine what the impact of that would be on the downtown?
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: hillary supporter on May 19, 2011, 12:25:51 PM
Quote from: John P on May 19, 2011, 09:11:25 AM
Audrey will be stepping down from her position at Sulzbacher. She's keeping her options open at the moment. On a side note, it came out that if Hogan was elected mayor he would have severely cut city spending to Sulzbacher turning into a daycenter only. Can you imagine what the impact of that would be on the downtown?
my word would be "unspeakable" But mayor Brown will take care of that!
Oh yeah, thars a new sheriff in town!
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: tufsu1 on May 19, 2011, 01:29:23 PM
Quote from: John P on May 19, 2011, 09:11:25 AM
On a side note, it came out that if Hogan was elected mayor he would have severely cut city spending to Sulzbacher turning into a daycenter only. Can you imagine what the impact of that would be on the downtown?

In have heard from some that this is partly why she stayed so quiet and didn't publicly endorse Alvin....had Hogan been elected, she would have needed to work hard to protect Sulzbacher funding
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Timkin on May 19, 2011, 02:42:16 PM
That makes complete sense.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Kay on May 19, 2011, 03:40:49 PM
Quote from: John P on May 19, 2011, 09:11:25 AM
Audrey will be stepping down from her position at Sulzbacher. She's keeping her options open at the moment. On a side note, it came out that if Hogan was elected mayor he would have severely cut city spending to Sulzbacher turning into a daycenter only. Can you imagine what the impact of that would be on the downtown?

Stepping down without a place to go???
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Jimmy on May 19, 2011, 03:46:06 PM
City Hall is about to put out the Help Wanted sign.  She's got some relevant experience...

Team of rivals.  Obama did it.
Title: Re: Audrey Moran endorsing Alvin Brown?
Post by: Timkin on May 19, 2011, 03:59:54 PM
Audrey in City Hall. I like the sound of that :)