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Community => Politics => 2011 Mayoral Election => Topic started by: Jaxson on April 06, 2011, 06:13:29 PM

Title: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: Jaxson on April 06, 2011, 06:13:29 PM
QuoteRick Mullaney tells Times-Union he's supporting Mike Hogan for mayor
Former candidate praises Hogan's background, ideology and openness to ideas
Posted: April 6, 2011 - 4:04pm

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2011-04-06/story/rick-mullaney-tells-times-union-hes-supporting-mike-hogan-mayor#ixzz1ImeZZfS6

By Jim Schoettler

Rick Mullaney told The Times-Union this afternoon he is supporting fellow conservative Republican Mike Hogan for mayor and encouraging his supporters to consider doing the same.

Mullaney, who finished fourth in the March 22 municipal election, said he chose Hogan over Democrat Alvin Brown based on Hogan’s background and experience as a legislator and chief executive; being a fiscally conservative Republican opposed to any tax increases; and his willingness to consider new ideas not already in his platform.

Mullaney said he intends to introduce Hogan to people who could help him from a policy standpoint, but he does not plan to be active in fundraising. Mullaney’s campaign raised $1.3 million in the first election â€" the most of any candidate. He received 23,591 votes - 15.5 percent..

The general election is May 17. Early voting begins May 2.

“I’m supporting Mike because of his experience, ideology and openness to public policy ideas,” Mullaney said. “I think he’s better prepared to address the financial challenges we’re facing.”

Neither Hogan nor Brown could be immediately reached to comment. Hogan spokeswoman Erin Isaac said in an email, "Mike is proud to have Rick's support. They both love Jacksonville and want what's best for this city."

Third place finisher Republican Audrey Moran, who has not publicly offered support for either candidate, could not be reached to comment.

Mullaney said he met with Hogan for two hours about a week after the first election and came away with an appreciation for Hogan’s commitment to work on the city’s fiscal problems, seek jobs and other issues.

He said he also appreciated that Hogan offered support for considering parts of a 34-point plan Mullaney touted to help the local economy and grow jobs. That support included a willingness to get personally involved in tackling the city’s education issues, something Hogan has favored, and for what Mullaney called a jobs capture program to keep and increase jobs at JaxPort.

Mullaney said he set up a meeting among his top supporters and policy advisors and Hogan’s team that was held on April 1. Several people who were at that meeting or were invited have since told The Times-Union they also plan to support Hogan by helping to raise money and in other ways sought by the Hogan camp.

Mullaney encouraged residents to support whomever is elected mayor. He said he thought "very highly" of Brown, but didn't think he was the best choice.

"I enjoyed getting to know him. In the debates, he presented himself well," Mullaney said. "But I believe Mike's background and experience prepare him better to serve as mayor."

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2011-04-06/story/rick-mullaney-tells-times-union-hes-supporting-mike-hogan-mayor#ixzz1ImePsLA7

Source: The Florida Times-Union
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2011-04-06/story/rick-mullaney-tells-times-union-hes-supporting-mike-hogan-mayor
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: buckethead on April 06, 2011, 06:17:50 PM
There's a shocker.
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: Lunican on April 06, 2011, 06:19:00 PM
Mullaney raised $55 per vote.
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: stjr on April 06, 2011, 06:54:48 PM
Mullaney is buying insurance for a future run for public office.  If he didn't endorse Hogan, he would probably be a black sheep for life in the Republican Party.  I have heard from insiders that the party has zero tolerance for its members (publicly) supporting anyone but Republicans and violators are banished to wherever disfavored Republicans go. Some might call it a loyalty oath (sounds like a cult).  It appears to me to be at least "party cleansing."
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: danem on April 06, 2011, 07:16:01 PM
Quote from: stjr on April 06, 2011, 06:54:48 PM
Mullaney is buying insurance for a future run for public office.  If he didn't endorse Hogan, he would probably be a black sheep for life in the Republican Party.  I have heard from insiders that the party has zero tolerance for its members (publicly) supporting anyone but Republicans and violators are banished to wherever disfavored Republicans go. Some might call it a loyalty oath (sounds like a cult).  It appears to me to be at least "party cleansing."

All three Republicans in this race seemed to be very different from each other. Maybe the Mayor's race here needs to be non-partisan? There's already no primary!
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: JeffreyS on April 06, 2011, 07:20:34 PM
Did he have supporters?
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: mtraininjax on April 06, 2011, 10:20:19 PM
QuoteSome might call it a loyalty oath (sounds like a cult)

Some would say the same thing about the Liberal Left.
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: hillary supporter on April 06, 2011, 10:42:45 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 06, 2011, 10:20:19 PM
QuoteSome might call it a loyalty oath (sounds like a cult)

Some would say the same thing about the Liberal Left.
But would they say that about Duval democrats? No
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: mtraininjax on April 06, 2011, 10:48:26 PM
QuoteBut would they say that about Duval democrats?

I would.
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: Jimmy on April 06, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
mtrain, that would make your opinion suspect.  I'm a Duval Democrat and I was for a Republican in the first election.  The local party has not the discipline or clout necessary to make its ranks walk in formation.  

I'll say here what I said earlier at the TU.

Sounds about right. Mullaney spent a lot of time going after Hogan's voters. Now he's sending his supporters home to Mike Hogan.

Fingers crossed that Audrey Moran will endorse Alvin Brown - soon. That would also be about right. And could well give Mr. Brown the edge on May 17.
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: mtraininjax on April 06, 2011, 10:55:00 PM
Quotemtrain, that would make you wrong.  I'm a Duval Democrat and I was for a Republican in the first election.  The local party has not the discipline or clout necessary to make its ranks walk in formation. 

I'll say here what I said earlier at the TU.

Sounds about right. Mullaney spent a lot of time going after Hogan's voters. Now he's sending his supporters home to Mike Hogan.

Fingers crossed that Audrey Moran will endorse Alvin Brown - soon. That would also be about right. And could well give Mr. Brown the edge on May 17.

So what? Moran endorsing Brown will vindicate all republicans who said she was a democrat anyway. Those who voted for her believed in her democratic ways. I AM a registered Democrat and I voted for Hogan because I could not stand any of the other candidates. Nothing has changed. Brown has nothing to run on publicly. Until he comes out and FIGHTS for a position, he is a bag of hot air. Hogan said he won't raise taxes, good enough for me.
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: Timkin on April 06, 2011, 10:55:45 PM
mhmm
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: buckethead on April 06, 2011, 10:57:49 PM
I thought the Dixiecrats were all extinct!
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: hillary supporter on April 06, 2011, 10:58:38 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 06, 2011, 10:48:26 PM
QuoteBut would they say that about Du val democrats?

I would.
The Du val Republicans are made up of numerous former democrats who left the party for conservatism. The Du val Demos aren't in the position to be doing any grudge matches like loyalty oaths. While i see your point concerning Liberal Left, i dont agree with the premise to Du val demos, with an example being their em bracement of Glorious Johnson. Its simply because the ducal demos are too small to really have the opportunity to do it. Alvin Brown is getting his new found support from "progressive" republicans, many vocal here. Its up to you to comment on that!
I stand by the irony of the previous posts before me!
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: mtraininjax on April 06, 2011, 11:02:48 PM
QuoteAlvin Brown is getting his new found support from "progressive" republicans, many vocal here. Its up to you to comment on that!

Maybe, but its happening behind closed doors. Moran is not what I would consider a republican either, so drop her from the list. What other prominent republicans have come out to champion Brown, locally?

He can't win in his own party, what makes anyone think he can win with help from Republicans, why would any of them defect and go to his aide, when Hogan is a safe choice to preserve their way of life in status quo? Hogan is much more reserved than Peyton was, he was a bad experiment, and we all paid for it. Moran was Peyton-esque, which probably hurt her more than helped her. No one wants 4-8 more years like him.
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: hillary supporter on April 06, 2011, 11:14:13 PM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 06, 2011, 10:55:00 PM
Quotemtrain, that would make you wrong.  I'm a Duval Democrat and I was for a Republican in the first election.  The local party has not the discipline or clout necessary to make its ranks walk in formation.  

I'll say here what I said earlier at the TU.

Sounds about right. Mullaney spent a lot of time going after Hogan's voters. Now he's sending his supporters home to Mike Hogan.

Fingers crossed that Audrey Moran will endorse Alvin Brown - soon. That would also be about right. And could well give Mr. Brown the edge on May 17.

So what? Moran endorsing Brown will vindicate all republicans who said she was a democrat anyway. Those who voted for her believed in her democratic ways. I AM a registered Democrat and I voted for Hogan because I could not stand any of the other candidates. Nothing has changed. Brown has nothing to run on publicly. Until he comes out and FIGHTS for a position, he is a bag of hot air. Hogan said he won't raise taxes, good enough for me.
His defeat of the other candidates gives him everything to run on. He got that position through hard political work and strategy that all here recognize. i wont put words in your mouth by calling that a fight.
Are you seriously happy as a democrat, a duval democrat? If you are,then you are disillusioned with their liberalism, or should i say special interests! Anyhow, you will have no loyality oaths  to confront!
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: vicupstate on April 07, 2011, 07:56:01 AM
QuoteHe can't win in his own party, what makes anyone think he can win with help from Republicans,

Huh?? He won the overwhelming majority of the votes cast for ANY Democrat? He had solid backing from the party hierarchy, such as it, even in the primary.  Please elaborate.

Quotewhen Hogan is a safe choice to preserve their way of life in status quo?

Are you HAPPY with the status quo, falling further behind 90% of the major cities in the South, and the majority in the country?

QuoteHogan is much more reserved than Peyton was, he was a bad experiment, and we all paid for it.
A bad experiment, much like Rick Scott is turning into.  Hogan is Peyton (remember HIS pledge to not raise taxes) part 2.

Hogan is simply a mid-level manager with no proven leadership ability, just like Peyton was, only Peyton's management was private sector.   


QuoteMoran was Peyton-esque, which probably hurt her more than helped her. No one wants 4-8 more years like him.

That is an insult. She was more of Delaney 2 than anything having to do with Peyton. Name one thing she shared in common with Peyton.
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: tufsu1 on April 07, 2011, 07:57:18 AM
mtrain...Audrey has not endorsed Alvin Brown....and if she supports/endorses him, it proves that the candidate and their platform are more important to her than the party they represent!

which, btw, is why this long-time Democrat supported her and other Republicans in the first election
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: Jaxson on April 07, 2011, 08:34:15 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on April 06, 2011, 10:20:19 PM
QuoteSome might call it a loyalty oath (sounds like a cult)

Some would say the same thing about the Liberal Left.

I remember that Bill Clinton said it pretty well when he said that Democrats want to fall in love with a candidate - Republicans simply fall in line. 
I agree with previous posters that the Duval Democrats are not in any kind of position to force their ranks to toe the line.  The GOP has enough pull in Tallahassee for them to be able to reward their faithful guys and gals with promises of safe seats in the state legislature.  Remember one guy who agreed to drop out of the mayor's race back in 2007 in exchange for a shot at a seat in the state House of Representatives?
Besides, take a look at the most recent chairs of the Duval Democrats and compare them to the previous chairs of the Duval Republicans.  I would argue that the Duval Democrats have not been known for having strong leaders in recent memory.
What does this leave us with?  We have a candidate for mayor who is pretty much in this race on his own because he does not have the luxury of a strong political party structure, of endless amounts of money and fundraising, of state and local elected officials to back him up or having a powerful church behind him.
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: hillary supporter on April 07, 2011, 08:49:10 AM
This thread is saying an incredible amount about the politics of both parties in Jax, but particularly the republican party, the dominate party for many years. Its good to hear dissention in the party. Not from a democratic point of view, just to hear a progressive side, a shift towards the center. ( I didnt say left!  ;)
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: Captain Zissou on April 07, 2011, 09:04:36 AM
QuoteMoran was Peyton-esque, which probably hurt her more than helped her. No one wants 4-8 more years like him.

I think this is extremely inaccurate.  Audrey has vision, leadership ability, poise, intelligence, and a great love for the city.  I would not argue that Peyton had any of those qualities.  I hope Audrey will do our city the favor of running again in 4 years. 
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: Doctor_K on April 07, 2011, 09:09:13 AM
Quote from: stjr on April 06, 2011, 06:54:48 PM
Mullaney is buying insurance for a future run for public office.  If he didn't endorse Hogan, he would probably be a black sheep for life in the Republican Party.  I have heard from insiders that the party has zero tolerance for its members (publicly) supporting anyone but Republicans and violators are banished to wherever disfavored Republicans go. Some might call it a loyalty oath (sounds like a cult).  It appears to me to be at least "party cleansing."

That being said, the inner-skeptic in me thinks Moran WON'T come out and endorse Brown for that reason.  She might have vision and all (which I firmly believe), but she's still a budding politician.  She'll endorse Hogan because she's a Republican and might want to run for office again.  She'll be unsuccessful without the backing of one of the two parties in her next potential run.

I can't imagine she'd want to lose that backing.
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: Jaxson on April 07, 2011, 10:10:34 AM
Quote from: Doctor_K on April 07, 2011, 09:09:13 AM
Quote from: stjr on April 06, 2011, 06:54:48 PM
Mullaney is buying insurance for a future run for public office.  If he didn't endorse Hogan, he would probably be a black sheep for life in the Republican Party.  I have heard from insiders that the party has zero tolerance for its members (publicly) supporting anyone but Republicans and violators are banished to wherever disfavored Republicans go. Some might call it a loyalty oath (sounds like a cult).  It appears to me to be at least "party cleansing."

That being said, the inner-skeptic in me thinks Moran WON'T come out and endorse Brown for that reason.  She might have vision and all (which I firmly believe), but she's still a budding politician.  She'll endorse Hogan because she's a Republican and might want to run for office again.  She'll be unsuccessful without the backing of one of the two parties in her next potential run.

I can't imagine she'd want to lose that backing.

If Audrey Moran truly wants to change politics for the better, she will avoid being yet another party hack.  We have enough of them in this town to fill a stadium!
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: tufsu1 on April 07, 2011, 10:11:05 AM
I seriously doubt that Audrey will endorse Hogan...what is far more likely is that she'll sit quietly on the sideline.
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: mtraininjax on April 07, 2011, 06:28:02 PM
QuoteI think this is extremely inaccurate.  Audrey has vision, leadership ability, poise, intelligence, and a great love for the city.  I would not argue that Peyton had any of those qualities.  I hope Audrey will do our city the favor of running again in 4 years. 

She may have vision, leadership, walk on water in her spare time, but the voters did not see it and either she did not convey her positions effectively enough or maybe she would be better suited to take up a City Council race and let voters see her leadership skills in city government from the council bench.

When was the last time we saw a city councilperson become Mayor? Someone who went from the year before as a council member to mayor? Maybe Stephen can dig that out. That would be interesting to know. Sure has seemed like its a been a while.
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: Timkin on April 07, 2011, 06:30:11 PM
Perhaps you should run, M... you seem to know everything about everything
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: mtraininjax on April 07, 2011, 06:31:34 PM
QuotePerhaps you should run, M... you seem to know everything about everything

What, and miss all of this fun? Never. Besides, if everyone on the board agreed with everyone, it would be like camp and what fun would that be?
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: Timkin on April 07, 2011, 06:32:17 PM
true that.. but you seem to know more than anyone
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: mtraininjax on April 07, 2011, 06:33:56 PM
Quotetrue that.. but you seem to know more than anyone

Not more than Stephen, for he knows all!  :-X
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: mtraininjax on April 07, 2011, 06:43:28 PM
Wow, Jake was a long time ago. Could it happen again? Or do we have to wait another 30+ years for it to occur?
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: tufsu1 on April 07, 2011, 08:56:12 PM
I hear there may be a major endorsement for Alvin next week...stay tuned!
Title: Re: Mullaney endorses Hogan
Post by: futurejax on April 07, 2011, 11:12:38 PM
One more reason not to vote for Hogan.  This is turning into quite a long list.