Last night on the 1500 block of Ionia,a drunken neighbor got into it with someone. The someone was hit, and the beligerent neighbor arrested. JSO responded with 7 cars, and fire and rescue were there as well, the injured someone was carted off in the ambulance, the drunk in the JSO car.
Dad is a retired police officer of 25 years. As a retiree, he still works in law enforcement (not in Florida.) He was appalled at his morning discovery: bloody gloves and gauze strewn in my driveway from last night's excitement. He stated that if we (the police force he worked for,) did that, they would be disciplined.
Dad attended the SPAR General Meeting last Thursday, and will do his part and email JSO (I guess they talked about registering complaints there.)
I explained to him about the Springfield stereotype. About, well, things I won't write here about what others think of the people of Springfield.
Folks, I know this story is not new. It's been told in many different ways on likely every block in the district for years, even still today.
The complete disregard of JSO and/or Fire and Rescue to drop biohazards in our streets when they have the proper (and safe) means to dispose of these is completely unacceptable.
Ick.
What must your dad think of this place? Welcome to Springfield....
Call your councilperson. You should get very good results. Perhaps even a call from Sherriff Rutherford. This is the kind of stuff that you need to report. Council people eat this stuff up too!
Actually, all you had to do is call JFRD, that's a major no no, and whomever left it will be in hot water
Jeez, you guys!! After everything these guys do for our hood, they make one mistake and you want them crucified... How about just calling the fire house and telling them they left something behind and let them clean it up?? Maybe they had another emergency call right after that one and had to leave ASAP and sped off and forgot it.. I haven't heard of this happening alot so how about we cut them a little slack, it's not like they got the easiest job in the world.. I know it's gross and not sanitary, but neither are used condoms but we find them all the time and clean them up. Do we really need to go to the city council with this?? Really?? I can think of alot of other things we need the city council to concentrate on other than a mistake by a JFRD medic... just sayin..
Not the easiest job in the world. Yes. Absolutely correct.
I will add that when I grab a garbage bag and walk aroud the block, I pick up several sets of these. Along with other nasty things. I don't think it's a common occurence, but they are there.
Question: if JSO is a first responder, do they put on gloves to help an injured person? Or do they wait for fire and rescue?
Also: Agreed. It's important to go directly to the source.
QuoteI can think of alot of other things we need the city council to concentrate on other than a mistake by a JFRD medic
Why not call them? Its a part time gig for them AND they get to collect a pension. Get your money out of them!
Quote from: iloveionia on February 19, 2011, 12:41:21 PM
He stated that if we (the police force he worked for,) did that, they would be disciplined.
Ha, well he certainly has a lot to learn about JSO then...
Just my 22 years experience as a cop, for what it’s worth. Cops are not first responders, and after I did my pat down I got rid of the gloves, nothing handy, on the ground they went. And I’m pretty sure the EMT types weren’t changing their gloves every time they touched someone. And I’m willing to bet it was one glove that got you into a tizzy, good god man we have bigger problems.
Quote from: BenDayHoe on April 04, 2011, 11:06:36 PM
Just my 22 years experience as a cop, for what it’s worth. Cops are not first responders, and after I did my pat down I got rid of the gloves, nothing handy, on the ground they went. And I’m pretty sure the EMT types weren’t changing their gloves every time they touched someone. And I’m willing to bet it was one glove that got you into a tizzy, good god man we have bigger problems.
The problem was human blood strewn all over her sidewalk, that they didn't clean up. Not a glove. I am sure nobody cared about a glove. Then, or now.
So if I have trash to dispose of, so long as there's "nothing handy", it is permissible to drop said unwanted refuse upon the ground.
In front of your house?
My Mom told me to clean up after myself.
*Love You Mom!*(http://www.myemoticons.com/images/people/relatives/granny.gif)
It was a drunken fight and cops are not first responders? WTH?
Quote from: BenDayHoeJust my 22 years experience as a cop, for what it’s worth. Cops are not first responders, and after I did my pat down I got rid of the gloves, nothing handy, on the ground they went. And I’m pretty sure the EMT types weren’t changing their gloves every time they touched someone. And I’m willing to bet it was one glove that got you into a tizzy, good god man we have bigger problems.
Beg your pardon, but when there's a fight, police
are and should be the first responders.
The EMT's that I know most certainly do change their gloves, and I sure as hell hope that the ones you know who don't never deal with someone I know. As my experience as a LEO, I didn't toss my gloves onto the sidewalk, but then again, maybe it's just a matter of self respect and respect for others. The area is supposed to be cleaned.
Since it was gloves and bloody gauze that were left at this particular scene, it was, without a doubt, an oversight and not intentional. All fire & rescue departments emphasize picking up such materials...it's a matter of public safety.
Yes we are for the most part the first on the scene, but the first responder wait's for us to make the scene safe for "them" to come into, so stop blaming the cops. you people have bigger problems than a glove left behind. you guys act like A-Hole's from San Francisco, Seattle, Portland or, God for give me, Hollywood.
Until you, so I'm told, highly educated morons, can get your elected official to limit the liquor license in your area your going to have problems. it's back on you. its on you and the person you voted to represent your area.
Quote from: BenDayHoeYes we are for the most part the first on the scene, but the first responder wait's for us to make the scene safe for "them" to come into, so stop blaming the cops. you people have bigger problems than a glove left behind. you guys act like A-Hole's from San Francisco, Seattle, Portland or, God for give me, Hollywood.
Until you, so I'm told, highly educated morons, can get your elected official to limit the liquor license in your area your going to have problems. it's back on you. its on you and the person you voted to represent your area.
It's a real sign of ignorance and immaturity, when one has to resort to flinging insults, when on the losing end of a debate. ::)
Quote from: BenDayHoe on April 06, 2011, 12:03:26 AM
Yes we are for the most part the first on the scene, but the first responder wait's for us to make the scene safe for "them" to come into, so stop blaming the cops. you people have bigger problems than a glove left behind. you guys act like A-Hole's from San Francisco, Seattle, Portland or, God for give me, Hollywood.
Until you, so I'm told, highly educated morons, can get your elected official to limit the liquor license in your area your going to have problems. it's back on you. its on you and the person you voted to represent your area.
Wow, talk about moron, you seem to be at the top of that list. Springfielder pegged you! I especially love the "educated moron" isn't that a contradiction?
HAHAHA! I did ot vote for Gaffney, nope. We live in Historic Springfield, not New Springfield. But you are right, there are not any alcholics anywhere else, and it is completely acceptable to leave behind blood. I am going to let the dumb doctors and vets office know next time I go not to charge me that stupid biohazard fee those jerks.....
Quote from: uptowngirl on April 06, 2011, 07:46:50 AM
HAHAHA! I did ot vote for Gaffney, nope. We live in Historic Springfield, not New Springfield. But you are right, there are not any alcholics anywhere else, and it is completely acceptable to leave behind blood. I am going to let the dumb doctors and vets office know next time I go not to charge me that stupid biohazard fee those jerks.....
Methinks this guy is trolling.
With a name like BenDayHoe, (A weak attempt at registering as pendejo) what else could it be?
AND ANOTHER THING!
While it's true I might be a moron, I AM MOST CERTAINLY NOT HIGHLY EDUCATED! (not in the academic sense anyway)
Quote from: BenDayHoe on April 06, 2011, 12:03:26 AM
Yes we are for the most part the first on the scene, but the first responder wait's for us to make the scene safe for "them" to come into, so stop blaming the cops. you people have bigger problems than a glove left behind. you guys act like A-Hole's from San Francisco, Seattle, Portland or, God for give me, Hollywood.
To get this right, what you are saying is that officers should be allowed to dump their bio hazardous waste along the sidewalks because we are NOT Portland, Seattle, San Francisco or Hollywood? Try this in World Golf Village or Nocatee and see how far you get. My neighbors are not from any of the aforementioned cities, rather they are more likely from Philadelphia, Cleveland and Buffalo but they would not tolerate this behavior. Being clean has nothing to do with where one is from, hell I knew peasants in Colombia that swept the clay floors...guess they were "smarter" then these officers?QuoteUntil you, so I'm told, highly educated morons, can get your elected official to limit the liquor license in your area your going to have problems. it's back on you. its on you and the person you voted to represent your area.
"Your area?" Just where is this "area?" You wouldn't be suggesting that everyone in Springfield imbibes a touch of spirits would you? The people of Springfield are Jacksonville's new pioneers, they are slowly reclaiming a district that had become a mecca of rooming and bawdy houses. It doesn't take a PHD to make this happen, only the will to pick the city up and march forward and apparently you sir, would trash that and tell us to move on. The lucidity of your grandee enterprise is the antithesis of the translucent benignities usually found on our site.
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I do believe you're correct, Buckethead....this poster's a (http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/forum-troll.gif)
That's okay, this highly educated (http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/graduate.gif) Historic Springfield resident knows that some people just need some help (http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/therapy_by_MisterIngo.gif). In the meantime, it's 5:00 somewhere....(http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/Bars_by_Jack_ina_box.gif)(http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/drunk5.gif)(http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/beer4.gif)
I think our Fire/Rescue personnel do a hell of alot more good than they do bad. ::)
Quote from: Springfielder on April 06, 2011, 04:34:02 PM
I do believe you're correct, Buckethead....this poster's a (http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/forum-troll.gif)
That's okay, this highly educated (http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/graduate.gif) Historic Springfield resident knows that some people just need some help (http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/therapy_by_MisterIngo.gif). In the meantime, it's 5:00 somewhere....(http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/Bars_by_Jack_ina_box.gif)(http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/drunk5.gif)(http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/beer4.gif)
Springfielder, that psychiatrist couch smiley is the funniest one I've ever seen....LMFAO
Quote from: buckethead on April 06, 2011, 08:12:17 AM
With a name like BenDayHoe, (A weak attempt at registering as pendejo) what else could it be?
LOL. I've been so tired this last week I didn't even pick up on that. Good catch!
I think it all boils down to respect. I used to work at a continuation high school (teacher.) The school relocated in the district and the site opened up as a magnet art school. Seven years later we still carry the stereotype that the continuation school had, even though we are a "real" school with the highest API of 7 high schools in a 90,000 student district!!!
Those familiar with Springfield are aware of its goods and bads. It just takes one knucklehead to forget protocol making a whole group (JSO, JFD) look bad. As I am sure I stated, Dad is a retired State Police Officer of 25 years, has maintained involvement in law enforcement for the (VT) Sheriff's Department, and trained Afgan's overseas for 2 years in law enforcement. Probably why it bothered him so much.
JB (SOS), Gloria (Team Recovery,) and FSU (SPAR Block Captains,) are taking charge with neighborhood beautification and clean-ups. I believe very sincerely that the actions of residents who are the "Guardians of Springfield" will continue to help change perceptions.
An honest mistake/discard? Hope so? A big deal? Not in the scope of things. But important to bring to light none-the-less.
Have I mentioned I love Springfield?!! ;D