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Title: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on February 15, 2011, 03:05:18 AM
Jim Love:  Why I'm Running for City Council District 14

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I have lived in Jacksonville for more than 30 years. This is where I have raised my family and built my insurance business. I have a passion for this city and I want it to be even better than it is. Like my father who served in three wars (WWII, Korea and Vietnam), I have an inner drive to serve my country and my community. I served my county as a pilot flying the A-7 jet off the Saratoga and I retired as a Captain (0-6) in 2003 from the Naval Reserve. I have also served my community as a board member and current president of the Park and King Area Association. In 2005 our association in partnership with the City of Jacksonville completed a major renovation of the commercial district in Riverside. This has led to a revitalization of the businesses in the Park and King Street area and it provided many new jobs. I would like to see projects like this continue throughout Jacksonville.

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http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2011-feb-jim-love-why-im-running-for-city-council-district-14
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Noone on February 15, 2011, 06:02:00 AM
I had the pleasure of meeting Jim at the St. Johns Riverkeeper Oyster Roast and had a nice conversation with him. I'm not in Dist.14 but if elected he may be the one that could secure a partnership for a  pocket pier (floating dock) for his constituents. If not then he would be voting for another city council member that may want a pocket pier for their constituents.

Jim, Time is running out and if you would like to paddle Hogans Creek or paddle under the sportier Times Union on McCoys Creek lets do it. I'd also like to hear more of your ideas for why we should tell the world to Visit Jacksonville.   
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Cliffs_Daughter on February 15, 2011, 09:11:35 AM
I'm in #14.

I have to compose a few questions for Mr. Love regarding the Timuquana area.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: outofhere on February 15, 2011, 09:39:14 AM
I have to ask what "excess taxes and regulations that hurt and stop business growth" here. That's a standard line but the reality is that Florida ranks 5th in the nation in terms of business friendliness. I am a small business owner and the last of my concerns is taxes or regulations. I see that Love is endorsed by builders and contractors. The last thing we need to do is make it easier for builders to construct anymore homes or strip centers.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: north miami on February 15, 2011, 10:59:58 AM
Jim- you need to do a better job returning phone calls!
Awaiting call back/left message a couple of days after the RAP forum.

Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: letters and numbers on February 15, 2011, 11:35:31 AM
jobs crime and education are what every candidate talk about and never in detail. what about specifics or other areas of focus?
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Garden guy on February 15, 2011, 01:56:35 PM
Hey Jim...what do you think about a corporate fee for any corporation with more than 1000 employees within the city as a support system for the downtown core...only if your corporation is located within the downtown core will they be exempt from the fee. What do you think?
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: fieldafm on February 15, 2011, 03:44:02 PM
GG, how exactly would a tax on major employers in our city encourage job growth in a city that desperately needs more jobs?  Jax has very high unemployment and foreclosure rates compared to the rest of the state, in a state that already ranks very low nationwide on these very metrics.

Full disclaimer, I am a Jim Love fan b/c I believe he has the right ideas... especially in regards to the protection/access of the St Johns River(completion of the riverwalk with innovative funding resources and forcing JEA to become a better steward of waste water reclamation), implementation of SMART city programs in our government(HUGE issue with me), success in reducing crime in the Park/King area through the crime watch partnership with JSO and his support of making downtown pedestrian-centric.

My only question to Mr Love would be 'Do you favor guaranteeing city financial assitance to the USS Adams Musuem'? 

I think it is a terrible mistake that a last minute gov't bailout amendment has been added to the USS Adams bill.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Garden guy on February 15, 2011, 07:36:28 PM
Quote from: fieldafm on February 15, 2011, 03:44:02 PM
GG, how exactly would a tax on major employers in our city encourage job growth in a city that desperately needs more jobs?  Jax has very high unemployment and foreclosure rates compared to the rest of the state, in a state that already ranks very low nationwide on these very metrics.

Full disclaimer, I am a Jim Love fan b/c I believe he has the right ideas... especially in regards to the protection/access of the St Johns River(completion of the riverwalk with innovative funding resources and forcing JEA to become a better steward of waste water reclamation), implementation of SMART city programs in our government(HUGE issue with me), success in reducing crime in the Park/King area through the crime watch partnership with JSO and his support of making downtown pedestrian-centric.

My only question to Mr Love would be 'Do you favor guaranteeing city financial assitance to the USS Adams Musuem'? 

I think it is a terrible mistake that a last minute gov't bailout amendment has been added to the USS Adams bill.
Because there sheer size alone puts more of a burden on our land and people...all at the profit of the heads of the corporations that usually dont live and spend that money here in this city. The more cash we keep in this city..the same thing for the country...the better we all are. We've had a massive flood of large corporations locating here in the last 15 years and not locating themselves in our business core...which is downtown.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: 5PointsGuy on February 15, 2011, 08:06:45 PM
Hello all. Jason Love here, Jim Love's son. I'd just like to say thanks for all of the kind words you've all shown to my Dad thus far and I'd like everyone to know that he does read MetroJacksonville often and when he doesn't, I make sure that he does. There are a few questions that I can answer, but mostly in generalities unfortunately. I can tell you that he does support Downtown and wants it to grow and prosper. My tax knowledge isn't as great as I'd like it to be, mostly because I'm currently out of town studying to get my graduate degree.

I'll call him tonight and try to get him to get on the board and respond to some of these questions. Hopefully we will.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: fieldafm on February 15, 2011, 09:00:11 PM
QuoteBecause there sheer size alone puts more of a burden on our land and people...all at the profit of the heads of the corporations that usually dont live and spend that money here in this city. The more cash we keep in this city..the same thing for the country...the better we all are. We've had a massive flood of large corporations locating here in the last 15 years and not locating themselves in our business core...which is downtown.

Wouldn't a FAR BETTER option be to make downtown worth the price it is to be located there by removing the policies the discourage downtown development and let the market move naturally?  Currently the price for a large corporation to be downtown quite simply isn't economically feasible when compared to being located on the Southside.  Until there is an equilibrium of value versus cost to being downtown, businesses will continue to be located elsewhere.  There is a very real value problem downtown and mostly b/c we don't just get out of our own way.

Cities that have experienced a rebirth in their urban cores have not done so b/c of punitive tax policies.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: dougskiles on February 15, 2011, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: outofhere on February 15, 2011, 09:39:14 AM
I have to ask what "excess taxes and regulations that hurt and stop business growth" here. That's a standard line but the reality is that Florida ranks 5th in the nation in terms of business friendliness. I am a small business owner and the last of my concerns is taxes or regulations. I see that Love is endorsed by builders and contractors. The last thing we need to do is make it easier for builders to construct anymore homes or strip centers.

I tend to agree with you on this.  I am also a small business owner, and while I'm not thrilled about paying taxes, I can't say that it has hindered our productivity to any measurable degree.  And we definitely need to stop subsidizing sprawl - so being endorsed by the home builders, contractors or realtors can be a negative from my perspective.  I put much more weight in the Chamber of Commerce endorsement.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: GoJax on February 16, 2011, 01:14:07 AM
In response to north miami:  I will call you in the morning.

In response to Cliffs_Daughter:  Please let me know what questions you have.

In response to Stephen Dare:  I would love to see Downtown Jacksonville as vibrant as Kickbacks on a Friday night.  With a tight budget here are a few ideas:  Complete the Northbank Riverwalk to Metro Park paying for part of it with the sales from engraved bricks.  This idea was used to help pay for Lucas Oil Stadium and Arthur Ashe Stadium.  Secondly we could license more street vendors.  They could sell drinks, food and other items while providing jobs.  In addition they would provide a small revenue stream to the city.  Thirdly we should support the Adams Class warship museum.  They are not asking for money; just permission to dock when they have their money in place.  We must also encourage the downtown building owners with large glass walls facing the sidewalks to convert them to shops with openings to the street.  This would give the downtown stroller something to windowshop from.  Terry Lorince, Downtown Vision Inc. executive director, calls this retail wrapping.

Jim Love, City Council Candidate District 14.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Garden guy on February 16, 2011, 09:21:49 AM
Many of us have seen the abuse that contactors, builders and rich boys with ideas have had on our city. None of them have the city as a whole in their heart...it's all about their pocket....if they can make a dime on it....screw everyone else....they are going to make that dime...look at all of the empty homes and apartment buildings in this city...Hey Jim..what are you going to do to stop the bullshit building in this city...how about we deal with what is here....just because some of your friends are going to make a ton of money with a few pennies falling into your pockets doesn't mean it's good for the city. You are a republican so i will not be voting for you but I'm interested to know what you do as mayor to quell the over building and waist by the "system"
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: cline on February 16, 2011, 09:28:20 AM
QuoteYou are a republican so i will not be voting for you but I'm interested to know what you do as mayor to quell the over building and waist by the "system"

Jim is not running for mayor, he is running for City Council (which is clearly stated in the title of this thread).
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Cliffs_Daughter on February 17, 2011, 12:55:31 PM
Jim -   I know district 14 includes the historical zones of RAP and such, which almost leaves my neighborhood in Wesconnett the 'black sheep' of the zone. We have our good points and our bad points. We have one of the best sport parks (Ringhaver) in the city, and have a very unusual balance of rural/suburban lifestyles.
Crime is ever-present because we don't have any real definition or status to the neighborhoods. We just are 'here'. We don't identify with any one neighborhood organization,

I feel that, while I know I am in Jacksonville (working downtown no less), there is too much of a disconnect. Now, my family being Navy and all, I've lived here most of my life... a good chunk of it on the Westside/NAS area.

Questions are: Do you see a need for revitalizing the area? There will always be talk of amping up Downtown, and I agree it needs to be done. But what about OUR neighborhood? We don't really have a historical status, but are important nonetheless.
What visions do you have for this part of Jacksonville, and how will you represent such a diverse social stratum?
And how could you motivate your constituents?
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: mtraininjax on February 17, 2011, 03:34:38 PM
Depending on where you are along Wesconnett, you are probably in Warren Jones district, 9, and Warren is an excellent councilman and is responsive to questions and issues. He is running unopposed for re-election.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: 5PointsGuy on February 17, 2011, 07:07:57 PM
Hey Cliffs_Daughter, for your convenience I'm linking the district maps.

http://www3.coj.net/City-Council/Docs/District-9/2007district09map.aspx
http://www3.coj.net/City-Council/Docs/District-14/2007district14map.aspx

If you live near Ringhaver then you're probably in D14. I'll get my Dad on here sometime soon to answer your question.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Cliffs_Daughter on February 18, 2011, 01:27:42 PM
Quote from: 5PointsGuy on February 17, 2011, 07:07:57 PM

If you live near Ringhaver then you're probably in D14. I'll get my Dad on here sometime soon to answer your question.

I can SEE Ringhaver from my front windows. And unlike several of my neighbors, I actually know districts and vote regularly.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: doglover on March 16, 2011, 01:36:03 PM
I was torn between Shelton Hull and Jim Love but now I think I have made up my mind. I emailed Jim Love about an area issue for the Park/King Association and he never replied. I think that speaks volumes. You are not even elected and you still don't have the time to respond to people. I am voting Shelton Hull!
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: fieldafm on March 16, 2011, 02:13:37 PM
Jim's cell phone is on EVERY flyer I have passed out in the neighborhood.  What other candidate puts his personal cell phone numbers out like that?  Call him, he will answer. 

I can guarantee you, I have not gotten that kind of direct response from a councilman in District 14 for 8 years now.

The only other council people that are close to that type of access have been Glorious Johnson and John Crescimbeni.

Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: mtraininjax on March 16, 2011, 11:01:12 PM
QuoteI can guarantee you, I have not gotten that kind of direct response from a councilman in District 14 for 8 years now.

The only thing Corrigan is good for is cursing at using tax dollars to pay for his legal fees with public dollars. He is a waste of 8 years. Overton was wonderful as District 14 rep, Love is cut from the same cloth!
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Cliffs_Daughter on March 17, 2011, 10:46:57 AM
Quote from: mtraininjax on March 16, 2011, 11:01:12 PM
QuoteI can guarantee you, I have not gotten that kind of direct response from a councilman in District 14 for 8 years now.

The only thing Corrigan is good for is cursing at using tax dollars to pay for his legal fees with public dollars. He is a waste of 8 years. Overton was wonderful as District 14 rep, Love is cut from the same cloth!

I was never much of a Corrigan fan anyway, but I had lived in district 6 previously. At least there was no regression in my area of 14 in the last 3 years, but I'd like to see something positive happen here for a change.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Dog Walker on March 17, 2011, 10:59:29 AM
I would not have voted for Jim Love before I worked with him on a couple of RAHD issues.  I'm also not in his district anyway.

Now that I have worked with him and have come to know him a little better, the thing that most impresses me is that he LISTENS.  Quietly and intensely.  He isn't one of those people who just stops talking while you talk, waiting to begin talking again, but actually listens carefully and responds to what you have said.

That's a rare and impressive trait in someone running for public office.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: doglover on March 18, 2011, 08:44:24 AM
Quote from: fieldafm on March 16, 2011, 02:13:37 PM
Jim's cell phone is on EVERY flyer I have passed out in the neighborhood.  What other candidate puts his personal cell phone numbers out like that?  Call him, he will answer. 


That is interesting because I have received several "Jim Love" fliers and there is not any contact info on there, not even an email.
I will try to call him, but I know in my job if I did not respond to client's emails, I would be in trouble. He ignored the voter before he was even elected.
Jim Love did not respond to email pertaining to issues concerning a post that he already holds. I understand this is a busy time for him but if you can't handle the jobs you already have then you probably shouldn't add "councilman" to your list of responsibilities.
I know it may be a dream but I would like a councilperson who will actually take concerns seriously, listen, and try to help. I have heard wonderful things about Jim Love, I just haven't seen it for myself.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: fieldafm on March 18, 2011, 11:05:35 AM
I have a whole stack of flyers in my car.  His number is on them.

In the time it took you to post your response, you could have called him and spoke to him personally.  I messaged you his number two days ago.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: doglover on March 18, 2011, 12:57:15 PM
I think you're missing the point
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Captain Zissou on March 18, 2011, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: doglover on March 18, 2011, 12:57:15 PM
I think you're missing the point

I get your point doglover, but you are ignoring what Field is trying to say.

Yes, I am sure Jim Love may have been delayed in responding to you earlier, and that may give you some hesitation in voting for him.  Field has given you Jim's personal cell phone number.  Why not give him a call to share your grievances with him directly??
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Captain Zissou on March 18, 2011, 01:06:04 PM
Quote from: GoJax on February 16, 2011, 01:14:07 AM
In response to north miami:  I will call you in the morning.

In response to Cliffs_Daughter:  Please let me know what questions you have.

In response to Stephen Dare:  I would love to see Downtown Jacksonville as vibrant as Kickbacks on a Friday night.  With a tight budget here are a few ideas:  Complete the Northbank Riverwalk to Metro Park paying for part of it with the sales from engraved bricks.  This idea was used to help pay for Lucas Oil Stadium and Arthur Ashe Stadium.  Secondly we could license more street vendors.  They could sell drinks, food and other items while providing jobs.  In addition they would provide a small revenue stream to the city.  Thirdly we should support the Adams Class warship museum.  They are not asking for money; just permission to dock when they have their money in place.  We must also encourage the downtown building owners with large glass walls facing the sidewalks to convert them to shops with openings to the street.  This would give the downtown stroller something to windowshop from.  Terry Lorince, Downtown Vision Inc. executive director, calls this retail wrapping.

Jim Love, City Council Candidate District 14.

I want to point out how wonderful it is that Jim personally responded on this thread. I'd also like to draw attention to the great ideas he proposed in his response.  I think the sale of engraved bricks is a fantastic idea. I know I'd by two, regardless of cost (within reason).  How great would it be to know that you helped create one of the great parks in our country, and to have your name engraved within the park??  Jim also clearly gets it with the Adams Class warship.  This is a private group who is asking for nothing other than permission.  We need to get out of the way and let them get to work.

Jim gets my vote 100%
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: doglover on March 18, 2011, 03:16:04 PM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on March 18, 2011, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: doglover on March 18, 2011, 12:57:15 PM
I think you're missing the point

I get your point doglover, but you are ignoring what Field is trying to say.

Yes, I am sure Jim Love may have been delayed in responding to you earlier, and that may give you some hesitation in voting for him.  Field has given you Jim's personal cell phone number.  Why not give him a call to share your grievances with him directly??
I am not ignoring what he said. I have called and left a message, a while ago. (I had his number from another source before field emailed me).
I was simply stating why I will not vote for him. Just giving my personal opinion. I am sure many people think Jim will do a fantastic job, and he may. I, however, prefer another candidate and am not satisfied with the lack of response that I personally have encoutered with this particular candidate.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Noone on March 29, 2011, 07:09:38 PM
This man wants to be the next city councilman representing Dist. 14. We paddled Hogans Creek today and the issue of river access that is needed in District 7 and 4 will be better represented in Dist.14.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: doglover on April 22, 2011, 05:16:01 PM
Well, I still have not had a return call or email from Jim Love and it has been over 2 months. I did, however, get a personal visit from Jill Dame herself. I think it is very impressive to have an actual candidate go knock on doors herself. Her contact info is also on the flier she gave me. I researched her qualifications and stance on the issues and am impressed with those as well.
I am truly disappointed in Jim Love who cannot be bothered to talk to the "little people".
I am definitely voting for Jill Dame!!! 
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: mtraininjax on April 22, 2011, 05:23:21 PM
QuoteWell, I still have not had a return call or email from Jim Love and it has been over 2 months. I did, however, get a personal visit from Jill Dame herself. I think it is very impressive to have an actual candidate go knock on doors herself. Her contact info is also on the flier she gave me. I researched her qualifications and stance on the issues and am impressed with those as well.
I am truly disappointed in Jim Love who cannot be bothered to talk to the "little people".
I am definitely voting for Jill Dame!!! 

Good for you, Jim Love personally walked down the street to me and gave me his sign and we chatted for about an hour about the issues. Whereas Dame sent her husband out to campaign for her in my neighborhood, because she was too busy with other neighborhoods. I am definitely voting for Jim Love!!!
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: doglover on April 22, 2011, 05:28:17 PM
Well, to each their own I suppose. I just find it odd that he cannot even reply to an email. I also find it odd that he hasn't campaigned on my street considering I live a few houses down from his office. But good for you!!
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: doglover on April 22, 2011, 05:29:56 PM


Good for you, Jim Love personally walked down the street to me and gave me his sign and we chatted for about an hour about the issues. Whereas Dame sent her husband out to campaign for her in my neighborhood, because she was too busy with other neighborhoods. I am definitely voting for Jim Love!!!
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I'd take a response from Jim's wife, that's better than absolutely being ignored
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: hillary supporter on April 22, 2011, 05:37:56 PM
Good luck, Jim. There will be some big developments in our district that will make it stand out among our city.
With your experience leading the Park and King association, you can take riverside to the top. It will be hard to do without you!
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Jimmy on April 22, 2011, 05:40:56 PM
Two great candidates; each would make a fine Councilmember.  I wish we could clone either or both of them.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: mtraininjax on January 23, 2014, 02:31:00 PM
http://www.coj.net/welcome/featured-upcoming-events/all-events/keep-jacksonville-beautiful-31st-anniversary-event.aspx (http://www.coj.net/welcome/featured-upcoming-events/all-events/keep-jacksonville-beautiful-31st-anniversary-event.aspx)

One way to say thanks for all the hard work in the community is by recognizing them in front of their peers, so there will be a ceremony thanking Jim Love for all of his hard work in protecting the environment tonight at City Hall, per the COJ website.

Keep Jacksonville Beautiful 31st Anniversary Event
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: BoldBoyOfTheSouth on January 23, 2014, 03:42:47 PM
Councilman Jim Love sacrificed the gay, lesbian, bisexual & transgender community and the Human Rights Ordinance just to be recognized by the First Baptist Church.   How can anybody support a man who lacks honor?
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Bridges on January 23, 2014, 03:53:06 PM
QuoteOne way to say thanks for all the hard work in the community is by recognizing them in front of their peers, so there will be a ceremony thanking Jim Love for all of his hard work in protecting the environment tonight at City Hall, per the COJ website.

Quote from: stephendare on January 23, 2014, 03:44:56 PM
And lets not even get started about his lack of support for the mobility fee.

They should thank him like they thanked Bill Killingsworth.  Honor him in front of the city council, and then 30 minutes later defund one of his biggest projects, and spend the next 3 years trying to dismantle it entirely.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Intuition Ale Works on January 23, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: BoldBoyOfTheSouth on January 23, 2014, 03:42:47 PM
Councilman Jim Love sacrificed the gay, lesbian, bisexual & transgender community and the Human Rights Ordinance just to be recognized by the First Baptist Church.   How can anybody support a man who lacks honor?

To be fair, Councilman Love voted for the HRO that nearly passed.

He did not receive the standing ovation at First Baptist .

Our at Large Council Member Robin Lumb did.

Here is the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJxO0D4d9Fo

Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: ChriswUfGator on January 30, 2014, 12:25:11 AM
Quote from: BoldBoyOfTheSouth on January 23, 2014, 03:42:47 PM
Councilman Jim Love sacrificed the gay, lesbian, bisexual & transgender community and the Human Rights Ordinance just to be recognized by the First Baptist Church.   How can anybody support a man who lacks honor?

You're thinking of Lumb not Love. It gets confusing sometimes since the names are similar.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Kay on January 30, 2014, 07:43:31 AM
Love did vote for the substitute and is supportive.  I suggested you meet with him--why not do that? 
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: BoldBoyOfTheSouth on January 30, 2014, 09:06:27 AM
@Mr Love,

Can you please clarify your position of ticketing drivers in the Kings Street area who park on the street while your own business charges drivers to park in your own parking lot?

Is this not a conflict of interest?

Would you be willing to donate all (not fancy accounting profits) but all proceeds that you make on parking from bar & restaurant patrons to neighborhood clean up causes?
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: BoldBoyOfTheSouth on January 30, 2014, 09:08:26 AM
I do not see any noticeable city funds for Edgewood Avenue in Murray Hill.  You seem rather Riverside/Avondale centric. How come you seem to treat Murray Hill as an unwanted stepchild?
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: ChriswUfGator on January 30, 2014, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: Kay on January 30, 2014, 07:43:31 AM
Love did vote for the substitute and is supportive.  I suggested you meet with him--why not do that? 

It's not that simple. Not to speak above my pay grade (I'm just an outside observer I had no involvement with the HRO), but the substitute bill appeared to be a rather obvious political strategy designed to ensure the actual bill didn't pass, while providing the side benefit of allowing council members to avoid voting against the concept. They're aware, as is anyone with a TV or a newspaper, that the gay rights thing is starting to get viewed in the public consciousness as modern day racism, and I don't think anybody wants to get caught on the wrong side of history. This is why hilarity ensued during the voting, you had Gaffney claiming he forgot what he was voting on, Robin Lumb claiming he was worried about the impact on businesses after he'd spent several days' worth of public meetings listening to half the businesses in town, including all of the largest ones, telling him that they wanted it to pass, etc.

Jim Love is hardly blameless, the substitute ordinance he supported stripped out the meaningful provisions of the original, and was tailor-made to ensure nobody on either side would be happy, with the inevitable result that neither would pass. The only possible outcome was that it would fracture support, and it did. While I was born at night, it doesn't happen to be last night. I am hardly alone in that regard.

As free advice from one of his constituents, he should hold a public meeting. His conduct regarding the HRO pissed off more people than he probably realizes. Which still doesn't hold a candle to Lumb, whose conduct, including accepting on-stage accolades from FBC for voting against the HRO, is not explainable to many people. In his case, people seem to be pissed off with a capital P instead of a lower case p. Speaking personally, I think accepting public awards from right-wing religious institutions that aren't even located in your district, for having voted against the wishes of your actual constituents, is really rather problematic. I view this as a character issue. Jim Love played the same game, or at least by all appearances he did. If that's truly not the case, then he should hold a public meeting and clarify his position.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Stephen on January 30, 2014, 10:08:20 AM
Is Lumb running ? If he is I'll make sure to vote against him and Love...No Lumb Love has a nice ring to it
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: BoldBoyOfTheSouth on January 30, 2014, 10:18:28 AM
Quote from: Stephen on January 30, 2014, 10:08:20 AM
Is Lumb running ? If he is I'll make sure to vote against him and Love...No Lumb Love has a nice ring to it

No Lumb Love  --- Now that's a bumper sticker.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Stephen on January 30, 2014, 12:00:26 PM
I'd love to find a way to tie it in with the Human Rights Ordinance....Anything to stop Love from winning.
Title: Re: Jim Love: Why I'm Running for City Council District 14
Post by: Stephen on January 30, 2014, 12:48:02 PM
so NO for Lumb and Love...No No