Poll
Question:
When do you think the Jax MSA will reach 2 million population?
Option 1: by 2025
votes: 3
Option 2: by 2030
votes: 7
Option 3: by 2035
votes: 3
Option 4: by 2040
votes: 2
Option 5: other
votes: 4
what say you?
I don't know if Jacksonville will reach that number by 2040. I think a big chunk of the future growth will be in northern St. Johns and in Clay.
Acme, the MSA population represents all of NE Fla, not just Duval.
IMO, there is a trend for more urban living. I think that Jax/Duval is on the brink of a growth explosion as more generation "Y"ers move out of their suburban parents homes and into the city. Add to that all of the other socioeconomic issues affecting our lives that will make the city much more appealing to many. Also, I feel like Jax is starting to be discovered nationally. If our new mayor is visionary and a true benefit to the region I see no reason why we couldn't hit 2 million shortly after 2025.
Quote from: acme54321 on January 28, 2011, 09:18:24 AM
I don't know if Jacksonville will reach that number by 2040. I think a big chunk of the future growth will be in northern St. Johns and in Clay.
Those areas are part of the Jax MSA. The 2009 estimate for the MSA is 1.3 million. In 2000 it was 1.1 million. I would think 2035 could be a reasonable estimate. I believe the population estimates in the latest LRTP update were around 2 million for 2035.
Oh, good to know ;)
Jason - I think you are right about urban areas growing with the current generation.
2030 we'll be around 2,030,000 if we maintain our ~2% annual growth.
It seems we've been hovering around 1.3 million for awhile now.
Wikipedia has our metro population listed at 1.5 million, but i'm not sure what their source is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksonville,_Florida
I'd say based on this year and last year's winter storms, Florida is due for a giant influx of refugees from northeastern states. Where they will relocate should be a concern for us.
I think based on the 2010 census data, the Jax MSA is hovering around 1.4-1.5 million. To add a half a million people in 15-20 years is not a long shot. If we can just get an eighth of those people to live in the urbanized area, Jax will have changed significantly!
Quote from: David on January 28, 2011, 10:06:53 AM
It seems we've been hovering around 1.3 million for awhile now.
Wikipedia has our metro population listed at 1.5 million, but i'm not sure what their source is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksonville,_Florida
I think this has to do with the MSA vs. the CSA. The CSA would include Glynn and Camden Counties, GA if I'm not mistaken. Possibly Flagler too. I think that is where the 1.5 million figure is coming from. Slightly over 1.3 million should be accurate for Duval/St. Johns/Clay/Baker/Nassau, which is the MSA.
Quote from: Wacca Pilatka on January 28, 2011, 11:44:01 AM
Quote from: David on January 28, 2011, 10:06:53 AM
It seems we've been hovering around 1.3 million for awhile now.
Wikipedia has our metro population listed at 1.5 million, but i'm not sure what their source is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksonville,_Florida
I think this has to do with the MSA vs. the CSA. The CSA would include Glynn and Camden Counties, GA if I'm not mistaken. Possibly Flagler too. I think that is where the 1.5 million figure is coming from. Slightly over 1.3 million should be accurate for Duval/St. Johns/Clay/Baker/Nassau, which is the MSA.
Jacksonville is not part of any CSA. The only CSAs in Florida are the Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach CSA, Sarasota-Bradenton-Punta Gorda CSA, and the Port St. Lucie-Sebastian-Vero Beach CSA.
Interesting to see the results so far being distributed quite equally. I myself am thinking right around the 2030 area. Jax has a lot of potential IMO for industry growth and at the end of the day nothing relocates people like the promise of jobs. Like another poster said, if the next mayor can focus on and get results on improving dowtown vibrancy this city will look substantially different by the end of this decade.
Quote from: cline on January 28, 2011, 11:50:06 AM
Jacksonville is not part of any CSA. The only CSAs in Florida are the Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach CSA
which Flagler County is part of, answering someone else's quetion.
Hell by 2040, if Disney and Tallahassee don't get out of bed and quit hatching ideas, Jacksonville, Valdosta and Brunswick and Key West will be part of "Greater Orlando." How many ways can YOU spell P - L - A - S - T - I - C ?
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